Your View on the Octuplets Story

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  1. Ms. I

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    What does everyone think of the lady who had octuplets when she already had 6 kids?!

    There's been talk all over the news. This lady is 33 & everyone's concern is about taxpayers' costs to care for all of them. She had the procedure (in vitro) done in another location...not here in this country because they were saying that no dr would do that kind of thing.
    I consider 4-5 kids too many. I never heard if she's married or not (hopefully so). My main question is, why even try to get pregnant when she already had 6? And she's not wealthy by any means. I only have two words...crazy & stupid.
     
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    No, she isn't married. She lives with her parents, who are now seeking donations to help support their 14 grandchildren.

    I think a person should be able to have as many children as they can afford to support, both financially and emotionally. If you have to ask strangers to help you with a situation of your own choosing, you've made the wrong choice.
     
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    I've been watching this and quite frankly I am very disturbed, and even disgusted by this situation. She is single by the way, (I am one that believes you don't have to be married to have children), but how on EARTH can a single woman support 14 kids on a single salary?!

    How will this woman financially support this many kids? Will the government end up helping her or will some Reality television show come to her rescue (i.e. Jon and Kate +8).

    Apparently she lives with her parents, and from what I've read the grandfather said that they have a HUGE house where they are going to live where the press will never find them.

    It raises ethical questions, ones that have no right or wrong answers.
     
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    I hope no one gets mad at me for this... but it almost seems kind of greedy. My doctor thinks that I will have a hard time having kids when that time comes. It really is over the top. I can't explain in words why it bothers me but its because I won't be able to easily have any kids. Maybe I'm jealous its so easy.. I dont know. It really bothers me that she already had 6 kids and would go back for more treatments. I don't understand her motivation.

    And I also feel for those kids. I doubt they will have the love or attention they deserve. I hope she has decided that 14 is enough.
     
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    Future teach, I agree,... It's greedy and unnecessary. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! In these days and times, raising one child is hard enough financially.

    Has she thought about the future, when her kids get older? Does she have a dream for them go to to college, because she has a lot of saving to do... 14 college educations will cost a pretty penny.

    I didn't know that the grandparents were already asking for handouts. Yikes I'm more heated about this subject than I realized. I'm just really perturbed about it. :eek:
     
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    I was shocked when DH told me that she already had 6 kids, was not married, and lived with her parents. :eek:

    I understand a woman wanting to have a baby without a husband, as long as she is stable, meaning a nice job that can support her and a baby, and a place to live on her own. This woman is not being responsible at all! Why would you want to continue having kids when you have 6 already, and still living with your parents, and no husband or bf in sight?
     
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    I totally agree with the above replies. I was just reading an article about this...
    I don't get it at all. It's not like she did this unintentionally. She had 6 kids....and went to get a procedure done so she would have a lot more???? I'm almost thinking it's some kind of attention seeking thing. Or she already gets money from the government for the 6 kids she has, and she figures she'll get a lot more if she has more kids????
    I agree with the fact that a woman doesn't have to be married to have a child, but honestly on my salary..if I had a child I could maaaybe support 1 (def. not 14! :eek:hmy:)
     
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    I agree that it is selfish and greedy.

    Don't worry though, we will all pay for her kids while she doesn't work or anything. Pampers will most likely donate all her diapers, formula companies will all give her formula, gerber will give her all the baby food, you know, the gov't will take over and pay her mortgate.

    eek, Yeah, it irritates me. I have three kids, and would have had more if I thought I could have afforded it, but I couldn't - so there.

    grrr
     
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    I agree with everything that has been said.

    Has anyone interviewed her as to why she did this? Could she afford the 6 kids even?
     
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    Can I ask a question..the article Sue posted states that her previous 6 children ranged in ages from 2-7. If she was able to have children on her own why was she receiving fertility treatments?!?!? I'm so puzzled by this. I understand that some people's beliefs state not to use birth control or whatever (I think it is the Duggar family?) but those people also support their children and aren't getting money from the government or free diapers or free food.

    I think it upsets me that she has the previous 6 of all different ages and went for fertility.
     
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    Where did you all hear or read she was unmarried? Everything I've read agrees with Sue
     
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    At first all the articles were saying unmarried and single. They are only now reporting that she is married with a husband going to Iraq.
     
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    Suleman did tell the paper raising 14 children would be a major challenge.

    "It's going to be difficult," Suleman said, adding that her daughter's father was going back to Iraq, where neighbors told the paper said he had worked as a contractor, to help support the family
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090130/hl_afp/ussocietymedicalbirthoctuplets

    The other article led some to believe that the woman's husband was going to Iraq, but it is her father.
     
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    They interviewed her on the news last night...I changed the channel :whistle:
     
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    I only have one word that comes to mind. WHY? Why would she have more? Why would she need fertility treatments? Why on earth 14? Why Why WHy???? Oh and then another word comes to mind who? Who is the father to all those kids? Then it just comes back to why? Why would he father 14 kids? At first when it came out that they had been born I was like oh cool 8 kids at one time thats more than I want but hey to each his own. Then this morning when I read she all ready had 6 kids my mind went reeling. I can't even imagine! I felt sorry for her, now not sooo much.
     
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    I haven't watched anything on the news, but I've heard some stuff from people talking. I'm jealous. Plain and simple. And mad about her irresponsiblity because it affects me on a personal level.

    I've dealt with infertility. Been married 13 years. Been trying to conceive for 10 years. Have one living child. My husband does not want to use fertility drugs (we've used some in the past but not IVF). People using them irresponsibly like this strengthens his decision. When he told me about the octuplets I got mad and told him how irresponsible it was. No doctor would/should implant 8 embryos. And if it wasn't IVF, then fertility procedures should have been halted if they saw hyperstimulation of the ovaries.

    And, yeah, I'm even more jealous now that I hear she has 6 children already. I just want a sibling for my son to grow up with. :mad:
     
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    Wow! I hadn't read the full story, but that is crazy!
     
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    Ditto.
     
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    It is the lady's DAD who is going back to Iraq, not her husband. It says that Suleman's husband is going back to Iraq. Suleman is her mom. If I'm reading it correctly, it says that her marital status is unknown, and that her dad is going to Iraq.
     
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    I really don't care about marital status as much as I do about the fact that she doesn't have independent means to support that many children and purposely went out to get fertility treatment after she already had 6 kids to support.
     
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    "Suleman said she was concerned about her daughter's homecoming because her husband, a contract worker, is due to return to Iraq."

    This came from the article on CNN. It appears that Suleman is the girl's mom. She is concerned about the girl and the babies coming home because her husband, which would be the grandfather to the babies, is due to return to Iraq.
     
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    Why take fertility drugs when you already have 6????
     
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    This is my issue as well. I'd like to just know why she felt the need to do this.
     
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    I just can't believe 14 children? How do you support that many? I guess she has help, the older 6 can help with the new 8! Her poor parents, they will be helping to support and care for their grandchildren.
     
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    I'm not sure how you could stand having 14 children under the age of 8 in the same house. I'm worn at when I baby sit my nine year old cousin for two or three days. Is she trying to give the Duggars a run for the money, because the Duggars survive independently of the gov't's help as far as I know.
     
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    Well, that's pretty funny considering the grandfather has decided to go back to Iraq, so he can support the family! I say he's ditching the madness at home!
     
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    I think I'd do the same thing. More peaceful in Iraq than with a houseful of eight babies and six other little ones! :eek:hmy:
     
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    Ditto Glendall. I'd be on a slow boat somewhere! What a nightmare!
     
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    I wonder if the TLC Channel has already approached the mother to do another "freak show" family reality program.

    (I don't know why people want to intrude on the private lives of other people. :confused:)
     
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    I doubt they would for this couple because they would receive too much bad publicity. People aren't going to be as agreeable to their bunch of kids because of how they went about conceiving them (fertility after they already had 6) than they would of others.
     
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    Ok, IMHO, if you are single, living with mom and dad, you SHOULD NOT have 14 kids (for all of you who are contemplating the splendid possibilities). Why would a person want such a thing? This is crazy and absurd... I had heard the story on the news, but I never realized that the lady already had 6 kids. OMG, right as I was typing this it came on the news again. The anchorman said, "and as far as we know, there's no dad in the picture"- I know there has been some confusion about whether or not the lady is married (not that the anchorman confirmed anything one way or another).
     
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    A news report I saw said she plans on breastfeeding? OMG? Is this possible with 8 babies??????????????? :confused:
     
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    I refuse to even think about it! :lol: She doesn't have enough "stations!":lol::eek:hmy:
     
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    I see the grandfather as a smart man he knows when to run!
     
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    Do the words "Dry Well" come to mind?
     
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    Well with plastic surgery you never can tell :rolleyes:
     
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    A lot of words come to mind on what to key about this woman and what she did BUT it's all been keyed in. Anyway, how about STUPID?! (IMO) A virus in her computer, in that head? :(
    Having this many kids though, will definitely be her meal ticket and a means of getting a lot of free things,:eek: etc., and like that comedian use to say, "America! That ain't right!"
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    :haha: That's hilarious! :woot::rofl:
     
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    I just heard on the news that her family claimed bankruptcy last year.
     

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