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  1. Jessegirl

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    The threads on lesson plans got me thinking about something my p said a long time ago. "Lesson plays are something you get paid for...". There was more to it, but that's not important. So, if lesson plans were optional but you had to take a small pay cut like say 1% of your pay, would you skip them?

    I would skip them for 1% or less of my pay, but more than that is too much for me.
     
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  3. FourSquare

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    No. They don't require barely anything at my school, and honestly I ought to write down at least an overview of the week. I have too many variables that change what I do in my schedule and 5 subjects to manage/integrate. Congrats if you can memorize all that. I can't.
     
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    No.
     
  5. readingrules12

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    Regular simple lesson plans I don't have a problem with. With all the junk they are adding now, I would take a 3% cut in pay to say adios to that nonsense and go back to making simpler and more meaningful plans.
     
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    Depends on requirements. Those college-like plans? Oh yeah, I'd gladly give up that money to avoid them.
     
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    No. My plans are short and I need them.
     
  8. Aliceacc

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    I would not want to work off someone else's plan.

    So, while my plans are so minimalist that someone else would have trouble teaching off them, they suit me just fine. I would hate to have someone else's plans imposed on me and most ceertainly would not pay anything for someoen else's plans.
     
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    That's like asking if I'd take a pay cut to not have to deal with classroom management...it's part of my job that impacts other parts of my job, so no.
     
  10. Pisces_Fish

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    No. I spend about 1.5 hours each weekend, but no one forces me to. I don't have to turn them in, they are helpful only to me.
     
  11. smalltowngal

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    This.
     
  12. mrachelle87

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    No, but if we are talking recess duty, HECK YEAH!!!
     
  13. waterfall

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    Me too! In my student teaching I literally spent 15+ hours a week on plans alone. Each subject was at least 3 pages long, and that's for 5 subjects per day. I also had to write a journal reflection of how the entire day went and page long reflection answering certain questions about each lesson. It literally took me over an hour to just to print everything off and put it into my binder for the week. My last school was definitely going towards super detailed plans. They kept going on about how the "best" teachers are the ones who have planned exactly what they're going to say, questions they'll ask, etc. I'm afraid this is becoming the trend.

    Since I'm starting some new intervention programs now, my plans are pretty detailed. Once I get to know the curriculums better I'll probably have a few bullet points for each lesson. I never understood why they made us plan every single detail down to the minute in college when nothing ever works out to the exact minute you planned for anyway. I tend to change the examples or activities I'm doing based on what I see the students doing during the lesson (maybe they're picking it up way faster than I thought, or have much less background knowledge than I thought). I think being able to be flexible to meet the student's needs is much more important than being able to write a lengthy set of plans.
     
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    Nope. I would not forgo writing plans no matter how small the pay cut. Plus, 1% turns out to be a nice chunk of change for me over the course of a year.:D I plan for me and my students, not my P.
     
  15. Go Blue!

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    I wouldn't take a pay cut for anything - can't afford it.
    And I really hate lesson planning.
     
  16. Pencil Monkey

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    No. But I would take a tiny cut if I didn't have to do all the other nonsense paper work.
     
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    I would take a paycut (though I couldn't afford much) to have a personal secretary to deal with all the misc paperwork, money and forms coming in, filing, writing down grades, etc
     
  18. Reality Check

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    Interesting...... a friend of mine, who teaches in New Jersey, was told by his vice principal - who was trying to "encourage" teachers to be more "broad-minded" in their grading efforts - "You know, we don't pay you to do math." (Hint-hint)

    ;)
     
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    No. Lesson plans are an important part of teaching.
     
  20. JustMe

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    Maybe I missed the point. I considered this a "fantasy-type" question. Of course writing detailed lesson planning is part of the job for many teachers. I don't have to write detailed plans, but if I did have to and I had the option to just stick with my one-sentence plans instead by giving up a few hundred bucks, then I would go that route. As discussed in another thread, not every teacher needs to write detailed plans to be effective...
     
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    Okay, fine....edit....
    Lesson plans are an important part of teaching FOR ME!
     
  22. czacza

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    My answer remains the same...fantasy or not...I write plans to keep myself organized and to make sure my kids get what they need...and 1% every paycheck, every month...it adds up...

    Reminds of that song in 'The Pajama Game'.

    I figured it out
    I figured it out
    With a pencil and a pad I figured it out!
    Seven and a half cents doesn't buy a hell of a lot,
    Seven and a half cents doesn't mean a thing!
    But give it to me every hour,
    Forty hours every week,
    And that's enough for me to be living like a king!
     
  23. JustMe

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    And that's of course fine...I just wanted to clarify.
     

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