Would you ever post a child's picture on the internet?

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  1. arobins

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    I am trying to decide if it is a good practice or not to post a child's picture on the internet. My daughter doesn't think a thing about doing that, but my son would never let a photo of his child go on the internet.

    I found a real neat website by a children's book author who liked to visit schools. He would post their picture on one of his web pages.

    In today's world, you have to be so careful of things. Would you ever post a child's picture on the internet?
     
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  3. La Profesora

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    Yes. In this internet age, I would post pictures of myself and my children, but only in appropriate places, like school websites. Not on myspace. And I might reconsider if I were in a situation where I knew something out of the ordinary were going on, like child custody battles or abuse situations.
     
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    Never.


    Today, people can "find" out anything about you and put 2 and 2 together two easily. So, even if a child is not listed by name it is still too risky in my opinion.
     
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    I've got pic of Emily on certain sites (message boards). Some of the people on the board don't post pics. I have know of people taking other kids' pics and posing them as their own kids on message boards. Now that is scary.
     
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    In order to post a student's picture, I would first obtain parental permission. In our district, it is a standard release form giving permission for pics by the news media and for our webpages. If a child is interviewed, the parent has to give permission before the child's name can be released. On my webpage, I NEVER include the children's names. To "name" projects, I simply use the first letter of the first name and the "number" they are in my room. For instance, Jody is #8 in my room. Her corresponding work would be labeled J8 and nothing else.
     
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    I have worries about posting children's photos on a children's book website like the gentleman I referred to has on his website. I can't see anything wrong with posting a picture they have drawn. I would never show more than their first name, age, and state they live in for the child's safety.

    Yet, it is very nice to go to his website and see how involved he is with the school system. I am sure those children like seeing their picture on the web.
     
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    I can see why you want to post Emily's picture. She is a real doll.
     
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    We have an internet permission slip that every parent is required to sign whether they want the picture posted on the internet or whether they don't. I don't even know how to post pictures on our school website, so my parents have nothing to worry about!

    if an author came into our school and took photos with the kids, I don't see why it would be a problem for her to put them on her website. We already have the permission and it's going on her website--not facebook.
     
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    Parents at our school sign a permission slip also. I do put pictures on the internet, but I am careful about which pictures I select.

    Once a LONG time ago (in college) I chatted with a guy who said he had a 4 year old daughter. When he showed me the picture, it looked like it was at least 15 years old (style of clothing, coloring of the photo) and had been scanned or something... I was very creeped out. I thought maybe it was his sister as a child or something. Weird.
     
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    If I were a pediphile (which I am not so take it with a grain of salt), I would be more likely to look at school webpages than facebook or myspace, children are much easier to find that way... JUST a thought!!!!

    I have often wondered whether it was okay or not. On the one hand we ARE in the internet age but on the other it makes it much easier for people to be found who don't want to be... I think that parental permission is a MUST, but other than that it's up to your discresion.
     
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    I have posted a picture of my children in places I felt comfortable with; that is my son in my avatar, for example. You have to use common sense and discretion. While there is no place that is exempt from being a possible risk, even a moderated board like this one, some places are better than others; eg: I would not ever post my children's pictures on Myspace, and if they had Myspaces, which they don't, I would not allow their pictures to be posted.

    Now if we are talking about students, unless you have the parent's permission, it is illegal to post their pics on the internet; it is illegal to even take their pictures without the parent's permission in all of our area districts, even if it is for newspaper/yearbook/etc. I would never post a child's picture that is not my own child online.
     
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    I would never ever post my child's picture on the internet. I want to protect her privacy from any and all. I don't even like it when we are out and people look at her - she IS beautiful and has always attracted attention. I don't want some creep becoming fixated on her in any way!

    Yes, I do still allow her out of the house! :haha:
    She is a legal adult now. I have had to grow as she has grown.
     
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    Although I liked seeing the school pictures, I agree with you about how easy it would be to track a child down from that picture, especially with the school being named.
     
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    I am so glad I asked this question. There are some strong feelings about this issue, and I certainly do not want to offend with a website page of mine.
     
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    I seem to be in the minority on this one. My kids' pix are out. They are pix I've taken, and my children are fully clothed. They are posted on both my flickr account and my husband's. Do strangers sometimes look at them? Yup. Doesn't bother me. People look at her on the street, too. My six year old has an email address that is regulated by her dad and me. She uses the internet regularly, and she knows what sites she is allowed to visit. We are teaching her to be a smart consumer of the internet (her dad is a computer programmer; we are way into computers in our house).
    On the school side, all parents have to sign a slip regarding use of their child's image on the school's website AND cable channel. I do not have a single student this year out of 75 whose parents refused use of their child's image. I do not post names. I really think pedophiles are looking more in places where they could actually contact the child (like social networking sites) or are looking in places where they can find the icky photos they, well....you know. yuck.
     
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    I have counseled so many abused women, and known several men who have been abused - - - - it just makes the hair on my neck stand up to see children's pictures posted on the internet. The creeps are so inventive and determined!

    My experiences in counseling have made me hypersensitive to the issue of abuse. I figure, what does it help to have a child's picture on the internet? Could it be harmful?

    That is just me. I would also never put pictures of my students online even with parental permission, for the same reasons. It is a shame and I LOVE looking at photos of children in classrooms far and near. It is just the reality of our world. We have to get more and more vigilant. Whew! It is tiring!

    I practice this vigilance in many ways. When I am responsible for a child, that child is never left for a moment with another adult, even a trusted adult, unless the parents have given permission. I have always asked about who would be supervising activities, what other adults or teenagers would be assisting, etc., before my children every went anywhere. Yes, I am known as the psycho mom, but I am ok with that. Those who see me in that light have not dealt with the fallout from all the abuse of children that I have dealt with. I know a lot of things about our community that they are not aware of - blissful ignorance!
     
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    Our school has a websit and all three of my children's photos are posted on there. It doesn't bother me. They are group shots and hard to pick out.

    Like the others, our school requires parents sign a release at registration.

    However, I googled myself and was led to that same website with my class information and some photos. I don't mind the class information about me but the photo bugs me.
     
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    I would strongly recommend doing a google on yourself ever so often. I do daily, and it always amazes me as to what I find that I have said not thinking it was linked to a google search key word.

    April Robins
     
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    I am a domestic violence abuse survivor, but have never really linked the occasional posting of my kids' pictures and abuse. Maybe I am off a bit, but the two are not the same thing, and believe me, I am very sensitive to this. I am not niave, and can see your point to a degree, but I guess I am feeling defensive in light of choosing to use my son's picture on here, for example, and the fact I have been abused. I do not see your point.
     
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    oh man! I am so sorry - I did not mean to imply any criticism about those who choose to post their child's picture online!

    Pedophiles rake through the internet looking for prey, that is how I connect the internet/photos/children/abuse. It is possible that a pedophile could spot a photo online and have that perverse attraction to a particular child. There are so many ways that the bad guys go after children, I am just saying that we have to be on the offensive and stay a step ahead of them. I am positive there are ways a pedophile with computer skills could track down some of the photos online.

    It might seem far fetched, but these pedophiles are crafty and they also prey on the innocence of parents. We have to be "wise as serpents."

    I am very sorry if I made anyone feel criticized. I am hypervigilant - I see the possibilities for abuse in many situations that other normal people don't see. I think it is because I have heard so many horror stories and seen that the predators are so creative and determined. With the advances on the internet, they get craftier and craftier.
     
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    I have a myspace account and yes my daughter's pics are posted there. My account however is private, and the photos are just her being a child.
     
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    Bonneb, I am sorry too! I started all of this because I wanted opinions on putting children's photos on a children's book website. I have decided already that it is too delicate an issue to go forward with. It is great that we can voice our opinions here and shed light on issues related to children.

    I love seeing photos of my two grandsons on the web, but I have not put out photos on anyone in my family, except my dog. However, the picture of Zachary on the cover of his book, which is on the web, looks just like my grandson.

    Please keep your opinions coming. I think it helps us all to be able to talk together.
     
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    As a parent and someone who has been abused, I am also what I consider hypervigilant, but I guess I feel safe in certain places...eg: this site. While it is not far fetched to imagine a pedophile coming on here and seeing my son in my avatar, the hoops he or she would have to go to to track me down would be many. I also have many irl measures in place to protect my children and their anonymity.
     
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    Temperance - You are probably right that you are safe at this site. I was thinking of school sites mainly, and how easy it would be to find out where a child is located.

    I think we definitely all want the same thing and that is for our children to be safe. I get a little crazed on the topic!
     
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    I am sorry too, for getting so defensive,lol.. you have a definite point, and maybe I am a little too naive to feel like any internet site is completely safe. That is why my kids, despite their protests, are not permitted to have Myspaces, even though they whine that all their friends have them. Tough,lol.
     
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    No problem!

    And good for you for sticking to your guns with your kids!
     
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    It is very easy to look at family photos on 'blogs." Some of the bloggers give very personal details about themsleves and their families. I wonder if that is safe.
     
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    :eek:hmy:

    Anyone know the answer to this? I am not sure how it all works.
     
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    I am a member of a number of blog sites including ShoutLife. I am afraid that some of the teenagers there do not really understand the internet. They seem to believe that because it is a Christian blog site they can give out information like their name, town they live in, and school they attend. My husband always reminds me to be careful. The blog I am reading might be from some seedy guy sitting at the P.C. wanting to steal your identity.
     
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    That's how I feel, too. I have read some adult blogs that are very specific about their lives. They post family photos. Is that really a good idea?
     
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    I'd not want my kids pics posted. I am always a bit shocked when I look at teachers' class websites and I see large, easy to discern, class pics (littlegiraffes.com is one such example).

    On another note, a local parenting mag runs a teacher of the month contest. Our kindergarten teacher won. The following year, that mag's editor had a child in that teacher's class (and so did I). She took a class pic, and published it in the mag (no names), under her editorial about how important ECE teachers are for kids, and how much she values them. And then she explains how lucky she is to have her daughter in Ms. X's class at ABC elementary- who just so happened to be the very first teacher of the month.

    They had not gotten permission to do this, and boy, was I ticked. There was my little girl, smiling for all to see, with her school and teacher name listed. How do they know I'm not in the middle of a custody case? How do they know I'm not part of a witness protection program or a domestic abuse survivor?? They didn't. They didn't even ask the teacher for permission to publish the pic (it was taken on Halloween, when the teacher posed the group for parents to take snapshots...not for publications!) As it is, my dh works in a very sensitive environment. We're even asked to not list our phone number/address in the phone book or any community or school directory list. He went through the roof.

    Not quite an internet story, but something similar....I don't like my kids' photos published. Period.
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    That is why I won't blog. While I post some stories of my day to day life, they are pretty generic. I don't have any interest in anyone knowing all of my real life personal info. Now, of course there are exceptions...I have made some friends online that I consider irl friends now, and of course, I can't completely disown the internet, I met my husband on there as well. :wub::eek:
     
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    I have posted my class kids' photos on my class blog, but with parent permission, in group shots (never individually identified by name) and our whole site doesn't list our school town or address either. So it would be pretty hard to find out who any of these kids are.

    Our kids' photos have been in the newsletter for years (the newsletter goes onto the school website) and in the newspaper where they are even identified by last name. Anyone can stand at the school gate and see the kids and, with today's technology, take photos of them, so I don't see what harm a photo on the 'net could do.
     
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    Grammy Teacher, I gave out my home telephone number by accident on a press release that was distributed all over the internet. I haven't had any prank calls, but I am very careful not do that again.
     
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    Absolutely not........ Lots of bad guys (and gals) out there......:(
     
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    You know it is just a shame that we have to even have such a discussion! Think of the great fun of seeing each others' classrooms, students, and families online. It is just a strange world and the bad guys aren't worrying about how to pay the bills or if their kids are going to turn out ok and do I have enough time to supervise the dance this weekend. They are putting all their energy into being bad. So we have to really band together and outsmart them.

    That is a great part of this forum. we have all these different thinkers here. We can help each other in so many ways.
     
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    Well, everyone's remarks certainly helped me. I am only looking at posting pictures of children's drawings and people's pets. Only giving first name and state related to the picture. I am so glad I asked this question. Thanks to everyone.

    Please keep discussing!
     
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    I have seen class shots where the teacher blurred or blacked out the students faces but still kept it where you got the whole idea behind the photo. :)
     
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    Having a child's face blurred or blacked out would only draw attention to them. I would think. Let alone the hurt the child might feel.
     
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    There are ways to position the camera so that you don't catch anyone's face except the adult. I've had to do that for grad courses. Or, you can use fancy camera lenses that sort of focus only on the teacher or adult, and the rest of the pictures is "background" and pretty much non-discernable.
    Kim
     

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