Who Saw the Movie Divergent?

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  1. TeacherNY

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    I will probably read the books first then see the movie on DVD or Netflix. I go to the movies maybe twice a year so this isn't one I would rush to see. 9 times out of 10 I'd rather read the books anyway, then see the movies as an afterthought. You can call me a book nerd...I don't mind :D
     
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    I've read all three of the books; I loved Divergent, thought Insurgent was ok and hated Allegiant. The movie was good, but I didn't care for the girl who played Tris and I really missed the Peter/Edward/Al story. The guy that plays Tobias is fantastic.
     
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    Dh owes me a dinner/movie date due to me meeting a weight loss goal, and I told him this was the movie I wanted to see. Maybe this weekend? I, too, really loved Divergent. I bought it when it first came out years ago, and then forgot about it. I saw the trilogy at Costco recently and re-bought the first book (not knowing where the first one went in our move), and the second/third one. Then I found the first one. So we have an overabundance of the books on our book shelf. :) I just cannot get through Allegiance. I'm stuck in the middle with zero motivation to move on. It's like slogging through mud.
     
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    I hate when I'm reading a book like that and can't get through it. I feel guilty almost about putting it down but eventually I just move on! Life is too short to read crummy books!
     
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    Divergent problems-possible spoilers

    I read Divergent, and while it was... okay, there were some things about it that significantly bothered me

    <potential spoilers below>

    So, society has collapsed due to war and split into factions that each believe that the lack of a particular personality trait was the primary factor. That's already a bit strained, but then some of the traits -- Dauntless really believes a lack of courage is why there are wars? And Candor seriously believes the lack of honesty causes them? Honestly, I could see a case maybe being made for Abnegation and Amity due to their attitudes about property.

    But even forgiving that since it's an interesting if implausible idea, the implementation is flawed. We're supposed to believe that the factions focus on a core personality trait that is somehow inherent in its members. Though sometimes it's not, and they switch factions. That's fine, but the idea is that some people are "divergent" and have a "core" of multiple personality traits. Ummm... doesn't that describe every single person? Not just in real life, but even in the book that seems the case, so it's completely unclear how that makes Tris special in any way.

    They later bring in what is essentially lucid dreaming -- she can control her mind during VR simulations. She creates a somewhat plausible reason this might create problems for some of the leaders, but being "divergent" is presented as being historically disliked and the reason is based on what would have to be recent technology. She also never makes any kind of case for why this ability might be tied to personality

    Don't get me wrong, it was a relatively fun book to read. Somehow, it never really seemed to hang together in a realistic way, though.
     
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    Your questions are basically answered in the third book.

    This trilogy is really like one LONG book. There is no passage of time between installments; the next book just picks up where the previous one left off.
     
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    While I really liked the first book, somewhat liked the second book, I HATED the third book because I felt like she didn't answer those questions. Or perhaps she attempted to but to me it felt like the whole third book was a cop-out. I really wish I didn't feel that way because I liked Divergent, so I'm reading the series again to see if it changes my mind. I was so mad reading the third book that maybe I missed some important details.;)
     
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    I did feel somewhat cheated in the answers, but she did technically answer them...lol.

    I didn't like the third book nearly as much as the first, but I didn't hate it as much as others do.

    I just finished "The Fault in Our Stars"...wow. Can't wait to see that movie.
     
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    I loved The Fault in Our Stars! Finished it in one sitting.
     
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    I'm pretty sure I'm the only person on the planet who didn't like Fault in Our Stars. I thought it was so boring. I got 30 pages in and decided I wasn't wasting anymore time!
     
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    I read the whole thing, and enjoyed it, I just didn't think it was amazing the way many of my friends and students did. It felt like young adult fiction to me, which is what it is, but I like it when it's harder to tell because of the quality of the writing. I felt like the author was trying too hard to take an old Lurlene McDaniel story and make the characters super cool and modern. Maybe because I spend so much time with teenagers, but none of it felt real to me. The best part are the perspective and the thoughts of the narrator, and I don't know how that will translate to film.
     
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    I didn't like it either! I read it for book club and I couldn't believe everyone raved about it.

    I also have tried numerous times to get through the Book Thief, which everyone also raves about and just haven't been able to do it. I think it's incredibly boring!

    I really liked the first Divergent book, but didn't care for the other two in the series. I don't think I'll be seeing the movie.
     
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    This is one of the things I love about teaching middle school...conversations about books and comparing book lists. I've had quite a few students the past two years who have preferred a book to its movie version. My kids are obsessed with this trilogy right now...and the Matched and Maze Runner trilogies. I'm a bit of a fanatic about young adult lit myself. I've read them all.
     
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    The Book Thief took me forever to read!!

    I liked The Fault in Our Stars, but I did not love it like most people. The book within a book annoyed me.
     
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    Easily 80% of the reading I do during the school year is YA Lit--love it. My students always help me build my reading list; I'm forever picking up their independent reading books off of their desks, reading the backs and asking them about their recommendations. I haven't read the Matched series, but it's on my list!
     

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