Where does grammar fit in?

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    You may know from other posts that I am teaching both English and Lit to 5th graders this year. I want to use guided reading, lit stations, and writer's workshop.

    Where does grammar fit into this? I know they can practice grammar in their writing and at lit stations, but when does the instruction/asessment happen?

    I work in a traditional Catholic school, so I have to be careful not to be too "progressive." (Very frustrating!!!)
     
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    I teach 5th grade readers' and writers' workshop and I had that same question last year. I ended up using every Monday as our "grammar day" and we would spend our entire writing period working on grammar. Then, the students would have homework on whatever the topic was that we worked on that day to be due on Friday. We would usually spend the first few minutes of class on Monday going over the homework from the previous week.
     
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    Do you use guided reading groups or literacy stations? I think I might be trying to do too much.
     
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    I do guided reading 2 days a week, but I don't have literacy stations. My reading and writing periods are separate, though. I teach reading to just my homeroom and I teach writing to all 4 classes of 5th graders.
     
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    I am teaching english and lit to both fifth grade classes...i essentially have 75-80 per day to do this. This must include spelling, which is a seperate grade on our report card. It just feels like so much to do. Any suggestions on fitting it all in?
     
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    You have 75-80 minutes a day for your classes? That should be enough time.

    Here's and example of what I would do:

    Monday:
    Guided reading: 30 mins
    Grammar: 30 mins
    Spelling: 20 mins

    Tuesday:
    Guided reading: 40 mins
    Writers' Workshop: 30 mins
    Spelling: 10 mins

    Wednesday:
    Guided reading: 30 mins
    Writers' Workshop: 30 mins
    Spelling: 20 mins

    Thursday:
    Guided reading: 40 mins
    Writers' Workshop: 30 mins
    Spelling: 10 mins

    Friday:
    Guided reading: 30 mins
    Grammar 30 mins
    Spelling: 20 mins

    Your lit. stations could be done during your guided reading time, or some groups could be doing them during writer's workshop.
     
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    Thank you! This is very helpful.
     
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    I think the thing to keep in mind is that your students should be reading everyday and writing almost everyday, but grammar and spelling don't necessarily need to be everyday or take up a lot of time.
     
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    I agree 100%!!! I don't spend much time on spelling (15-20 minutes on a Monday) or grammar. I incorporate my grammar into my literacy block, teaching a mini lesson (10-15 min) and giving reinforcement in their independent literacy centers. Our districts' focus is writing workshop-so we spend a lot of our "grammar" time writing.
     

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