When to give up for this year?

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  1. sunshine24

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    Hi all. I am from the NYC area and teachers report back to schools on Tuesday and Wednesday, with students returning on Sept 9. At this point, should I pretty much give up on landing a full time position for this school year? With teachers returning to work in 4 days, wouldn't principals have secured all of their vacancies by now?

    Thanks for any insight...I am feeling pretty defeated after looking for a full time job for 3 years and seemingly getting nowhere :(
     
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    We've hired two days before students arrived. Many are hired a week or two into the year once numbers are determined. Never too late...
     
  4. vateacher757

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    Don't give up....I have seen new hires after school has started.
     
  5. RedStripey

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    After yet another interview where the principal praised me endlessly and then went with someone else, I have given up for this school year. :( Feeling pretty defeated right now. I'm just going to sub and hope that I can land an LTS
     
  6. czacza

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    This is totally possible. One last round of emais with attached resume to EVERY public, private and charter within a reasonable commute might be worth your effort.
     
  7. sunshine24

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    Thanks for the words of encouragement. I am trying to be hopeful, but I am also trying to be realistic. Plus, a friend (who is a SLP, not a teacher) went into her school today to set up her room and I felt a little stab of jealousy.

    RedStripey: I know what you mean! I will also have to sub again, but the system has sooo many subs that the working days are far and few between. And, I will be losing my health coverage, under my parents, when I turn 26 in the Spring. Time is of the essence!

    czacza: Yes, I am in the process of sending emails now. I am also going to pound the pavement yet again and hand deliver my resume to the schools in my area. But after 3 years of doing this, I feel like it's pointless, ya know?
     
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    Kids go back the 3rd and SIX K jobs were posted today within 35/40 minutes of my home.
     
  9. Linguist92021

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    Never give up! I got hired in March as a full time teacher, not even as a LTS.
    Schools have openings throughout the year, things come up all the time. Every single job seeker who gives up for the school year makes getting a job easier for those who don't give up. Don't be one of those!
    During the school year there are less applicants to choose from, simply because so many don't even bother applying - that makes the odds much better for you!
     
  10. DrBill

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    Hello There Sunshine:)

    No, never give up. I've hired many teachers and sadly many don;t show up on the first day because they take a better job and don;t bother informing the other school. But that being said, don;t stop actively hunting and applying for jobs until you have a board approved and signed contract.

    Dr. Bill
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  11. sunshine24

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    Thank you all for the advice. Hearing so many stories of late hires is encouraging :)

    DrBill: Thank you for the advice about the signed contracts and job-hunting. I hope that I will eventually get to the point where I receive a job offer and get to sign a contract, but I will definitely keep your words in mind if/when the time comes.
     
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    I'm in Long Island.

    We hired someone on Tuesday.

    And there are 3 women in my department who are newlyweds. Any or all of them could conceivalbly need a maternity leave towards the end of the year.
     
  13. DressageLady

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    Don't give up! I finally took a position as a teacher's assistant because I was so discouraged about my lack of an offer.

    I was chatting with the teacher I have been assigned to and she told me that she had three assistants last year, and she lost every one when they were hired as teachers in our district. One was hired in December, one was hired in March and one was hired in June (for a position that started this month). So districts do hire teachers throughout the year.

    I am not giving up!! And I urge anyone in this situation to not give up either.
    Sheilah
     
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    Our district just posted for a 4th and 3rd. We started back to school today and judging by the numbers we might need more staff. Don't give up.
     
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    I am subbing this year. We just started using the Aesop system and I find that I like going to different schools. Hopefully I will get more exposure this way. Subbing at one school last year didn't help, as the P did not hire me even though she had many positions. I did 2 LTS for her last year and must not have been what she was looking for.
     
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    I hear you on the health coverage, I still have mine for another 2 years but I lost my dental last year.

    I don't mind subbing and I hope it will turn into something but I'm nervous that I won't get a lot of days either :/ I'm on the sub list in 8 districts though. :thumb: I guess I will have to keep being perseverant. It's getting hard though, haha.
     
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    We have an unexpected opening. We just hope they can fill it!!
     
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    Early in my career, I was hired two weeks into school.
     
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    We hired two teachers after school had already started this year.
     
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    Don't give up!

    I am signing a contract tomorrow for a district that started over a week ago. There are other teachers being hired in my district right now.
     
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    It sucked, but I was hired and started in October. Student enrollment was higher than expected.
     
  22. sunshine24

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    Thank you everyone for all of the stories! They are slowly re-establishing a little glimmer of hope for me.

    I interviewed with a princ in July, but the school did not have any current vacancies. However, the princ was anticipating that some teachers would not be returning. But, as of earlier this week, she told me that there were still no positions, but that she would be happy to contact me if one becomes available.
    I am trying to hold onto that and am praying that a position opens up there. It's kinda hard to believe that she would have interviewed me if she did not have a strong inkling that there would be a position. Fingers (and toes) crossed :)
     
  23. ChemTeachBHS

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    Don't give up. We report back to work on Tuesday and we are still 2 hs math teachers short. I'm in Hudson County NJ btw so it's in your area. Also my husband works for the Archdiocese of Newark and 12 jobs have opened up in the last week, including one for a principal. If you could swing a commute to NJ it's worth looking into.
     
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    ChemTeachBHS: Thank you so much for the heads up! A commute to NJ, especially Newark, if very doable for me. I will definitely look into it :)
    NYC sucks right now because in addition to the hiring freeze with public schools, our Catholic schools also implemented a freeze. So, there is virtually nothing popping up anywhere in my area.
     
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    While I don't think you should give up, I do think you should have a plan B while you continue applying for jobs all year. Whether that's subbing or something else would be up to you. If you're already doing that, I missed it, sorry! If you can financially swing not having a job right now, volunteering would work too.
     
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    bison: Yes, right now my short-term Plan B is going to be subbing. But, in NYC (the area I am in, in particular), the sub system is so over-loaded and with excessed staff increasing, per diem subs, like me, do not get called that often. So, in addition to an unsteady work schedule, I also cannot depend on the money.
    All that being said, I will lose my health coverage in the Spring, when I turn 26. So, if I do not secure a full time position for September, I will in all likilihood, need to leave the teaching field and find a full time job doing something else (what that will be, I do not know) :( It's heartbreaking because I LOVE teaching, but I can no longer live like this financially.
     
  27. tonysam

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    There are job openings all year round in education.

    It is a myth there is a "hiring season" in teaching.
     
  28. kpa1b2

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    Jobs open up all the time. I got my first full time teaching job in April.

    I got called a day or 2 before school started one year, the numbers had gone up and they needed another teacher.

    People get married and move. Spouses get transferred. Teachers have babies and decided not to come back to work.

    Don't give up! If you need the insurance find a job that will give you the insurance and still allow you to sub.
     
  29. TeacherNY

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    One year I had an interview in October (although I had applied in June), was officially hired in November, and started working in my classroom in December. Don't give up! I agree to continue with your plan B but keep on the lookout for postings all year round.
     
  30. Aliceacc

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    If you're considering NJ, take a look at Hoboken. It's an easy commute from parts of NY.

    And keep in mind: private schools don't have to require certification. So while they tend NOT to hire people without ANY certification, I imagine a private school in NJ would be willing to accept your NY certification while you applied for NJ.
     
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    Some retail employers offer health insurance for PT employees. I am most likely going to quit my FT job and sub for this year, so I am looking at getting back into my old retail job just for health insurance. I plan on working Friday night and Saturday to just pay for the insurance.
    It stinks, but it is better than nothing.

    If I was a day-to-day sub, my county has a health plan and I could get insured for free. Unfortunately/fortunately (depending on how you consider it), I have a LTS that will last until Christmas.
     
  32. ChemTeachBHS

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    Here is the link. Maybe one of these will work for you.

    http://www.catholicschoolsnj.org/csnj/Employment/
     
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    Chemteacher, I know that Sinewave is still looking for a math job. She's somewhere near Philadelphia. Sorry, I don't know the geography... how far are you from Philly?
     
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    Thank you to everyone for the encouraging stories of all-year hiring. I have never known of anyone, personally, to get hired full time after September, so the stories have been helpful :)
    Teachers report back to work tomorrow in NYC (students on Monday 9/9), so I am praying for something to pop up between now and then. I've been kinda in a funk today too, knowing how badly I wanted to be setting up my own classroom tomorrow and instead I will be sitting home, waiting and hoping for a call :(

    ChemTeachBHS: Thank you so much for the link...I am definitely going to be checking it out today :)
     
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    Don't give up...last year I was hired the second week of school. I'm working as a TA but I'm still looking for a teaching job. My district is still looking for TAs and a permanent sub last I heard, no idea if any of those positions have been filled yet.

    Someone told me that Long Island Catholic schools are hiring, but I don't know if that's true.
     
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    I'm about an hour away but I sent her the info via PM.
     
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    Don't get up hope. Last year I was hired in November--two and a half months after school started.
     
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    Do not give up! Some schools will hire up until the day before schools starts and some even hire into the school year.
     
  39. Aliceacc

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    Thanks... maybe she'll be the right one for one of those jobs!
     
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    I got hired for the first time as a full time teacher in April. It was several years ago; but things can change at any time and teachers are needed.
     
  41. sunshine24

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    Thanks again for the words of encouragment.

    I just don't know how to stay optimistic in the search. Today has been a rough day because teachers went back to work and I really thought (back in June) that I would be heading out to work today too :( Waking up today with nowhere to go was like a slap in the face!
    I know the job markets are tough everywhere, but I have been looking for 3 years! And I honestly do not know what else I can do to be more proactive; I've done everything I can possibly do to secure a position and yet, I still do not have one. Even with all of the positive feedback on here, I truly find myself doubting if it will ever happen for me!

    Sorry for the rant; just not having a very positive day :(
     

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