Hi, friends! I had am extremely chaotic day. I have a student who is extremely disrespectful and I am having trouble handling. I wanted some second opinions. This student is in fourth grade, home life is less than ideal, and he is always making poor decisions. I have tried both consequences and reward systems without prevail. Today, I was teaching, and he was being majorly disruptive by moving his desk. I was telling him to stop moving his desk because it was distracting, and he said, "Okay, okay. Be quiet." While rolling his eyes. :crosseyed I tried to handle it correctly and said, "Excuse me? You need to clip down. It is never okay for you to tell a teacher to be quiet." He made a big huffing, arguing, and eye rolling scene, so I had him step in the hall to cool down. Quickly after, we went to recess, where he walked a few laps and then went and played. On our way back in, I asked that my students be quiet because testing was going on. He is just talking away and laughing when I remind him to be quiet, so he clipped down again. He still continues, so I told him if he failed to follow instructions then he would have isolated lunch. Well, lo and behold, he still is talking and flat out ignoring me like I'm not even speaking to him. So I told him he would have isolated lunch (because at this point he has clipped down twice and is still ignoring me). He then responds with, "Okay, great! I love sitting by myself at lunch and I can't wait! I don't even freaking care!" Now, I realize this is just mouthing off and that he does care, but this just infuriated me. I calmly told him to come with me and walked him around the corner to the office, where my P is. I opened the door and said, "Would you like to tell P exactly what you just said to me?" She pulled him into the office and chatted with him, then sent him out. Anyway, fast forward to this afternoon. I had to meet with her anyway, and his situation was brought up. I mentioned that I was sorry that I sent him so abruptly, but that I didn't know what else to do with him and that a couple of other teachers had mentioned to me that he needed to be in the office for behavior, which made me feel that maybe I wasn't being firm enough. She proceeded to tell me that how I handle him is my choice. I asked her what she would like me to do, and she said that unless he is being vulgar to just ignore it. Now, I know that ignoring can save me a lot of stress, but at the same time, I feel that by ignoring it, I am allowing it. She did say that sending him out of my room or to another teacher's room is appropriate. She also asked him what he needed to be able to follow the rules. He said he wanted to go to another teacher's class for the rest of the year. My P told him if he was good for the rest of the week, she would consider that. I'm not sure how I feel about it. Now he is going back to my other students and saying that, and I had a couple of other students get in trouble in my class today, and there response was "Oh, I'm going to go to Mrs. So-and-So's class." Obviously they don't get to make this choice, but just the fact that they run around saying it when they're annoyed now (this isn't all of my kids, but a couple little classroom challenges). Anyway, I just am uneasy because I don't want her to think I can't handle him or sent him to the office for a stupid reason, but at the same time, this disrespect is constant. I try individual conferencing, I have referred him to the guidance counselor, we have a points reward system, and I have some communication with home but his guardian is currently upset with me about a different situation involving DCS, and I don't think that would be a wise person to contact right now. Anyway, what is your take on this situation????? Should I have involved admin at this point? I know my P is probably right, after all, I am a first year teacher and she has been working in schools for her entire career! I guess it is just hard for me to swallow allowing a student to be so disrespectful without a consequence.