When do kids start to hate reading?

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  1. chebrutta

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    czacza - Thanks. I'm going to look into them :)

    Mrs. K - I downloaded it & I'll start on it as soon as I finish The Art and Science of Teaching :)

    I just struggle with understanding the where and why of the hatred... and why some of them have so much resistance (I mean, kicking-pouting-rather-have-a-root-canal-than-read-anything)... and HOW I can help lower that resistance. I know every kid isn't going to love reading... but it's the getting them to even read along that I'm struggling with.
     
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    I agree! I think kids start to "hate" reading as they get older because it gets boring! People are doing scripted programs and/or test prep. When they're really little, school is still exciting and they love it no matter what (generalizing). As they get older, the novelty of school wears off, and teachers start doing test prep. I loved reading growing up- I went to the library with my mom every single week and checked out tons of books. However, even I started hating it when all we were doing in reading was practice test stories and questions. A lot of schools I observed or did practicums in literally NEVER had students reading real books with actual plot lines- instead they were reading short stories that would be similiar to what they'd read on the state test. How are they supposed to enjoy reading if all they're ever reading is a boring 2-3 page story that you just can't "get into?" There is no suspense about wondering what will happen next. You read the short story and answer the questions.

    One of my HUGE pet peeves in reading classes is when students never read real books. I make it a point to always use real books with good storylines in my class. My kids love to read- and I teach special ed up to 5th grade. They tell me all the time that they love it-even the older ones. Every time I pulled out a new book for us to start, they would get really excited!
     
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    I teach primary so I get the lovely part where they are starting to "get it" and are self motivated by every little success.

    I think a lot of learning disabilities are not caught in time, sometimes it is a normal developmental issue and not a LD, but as the years progress, so should the reading. Otherwise suspect a LD. My frustration is that it takes till 5th/6th grade for some schools to actually follow through and test a child. By then the child has an ingrained association that reading =feeling stupid.

    One other thing. I think it would help tremendously if teachers of all grades would find out the special interests of their students and get those kinds of books into the room! I've had a lot of success with that. I know in upper grades the class reads books together for discussion purposes. How do you choose a book that will appeal to all the kids?

    It would also help if teachers tried different ways to teach reading - teach to the student. It is much more work, but it would help all students learn. I am blessed to have a lot of tools at my disposal and a relatively small class size, so I can tailor a lot of my teaching to the child.
     
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    I "hate" being read to and I hate reading books. I remember in 1st grade the teacher reading a story to the class and I just wanted to leave. Yet I don't mind reading something that I'm interested in, like anything to do with Math. :) However this Summer Reading I will start in August since school starts in September.
     
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    I have to say that I absolutely despise having kids read aloud. I am a very strong reader and listening to struggling readers read was just painful. I would often read ahead and then get in trouble for not knowing where we were when I was called on :lol: But in all honesty I think that's a quick way to ruin a good story is to have someone read it without any voice inflection, embellishment, etc...

    As an English teacher, I do believe it is important to read at least one novel together as a class. I think it's important to be able to do whole class activities and discussions. For example, with To Kill a Mockingbird the students act out the trial. It's hard to do that without a whole class! However, I believe it's imperative to pick a book that has a lot that can appeal to different types of people. You'll never reach every single person with one book but you can do your best to get kids interested in it and "sell" it right!
     
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    Peachy thanks so much for the thoughts about basals! They just do not fit my style, and this year I am faced with having/needing to use them due to different issues. I have been struggling trying to figure out what to do.

    On one discussion on reading programs on here, someone said, "Just read the Daily 5 and save money on all those basals." Along with your thoughts, that is what I am going to do! Getting excited!
     
  7. Ms.Jasztal

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    Dear Chebrutta. This is my last post of the night. I could go on forever about this one. Also being a teacher from the Sunshine State, I understand your woes. Third grade rolls around and reading instruction turns to test preparation. Seeing third grade is all about reading and math, mostly reading, a lot of other subjects get pushed aside. Writing, science, and social studies are slighted, though all those subjects can be used to enhance reader's workshop. Some teachers are wonderful at creating a strong balance. :) Then others feel very worried. We know.

    Teachers do not always make reading relevant; they do not always give students book choices and help them to make connections with magazines, newspapers, and even making real-life applications like reading to understand travel. A lot of questions are presented, and inquiry (higher-order thinking) is pushed aside, in my opinion, which is the reason why I will focus more on inquiry and discussions than responding to rote questions this coming year.

    So, back to third grade... of course, we have those who fail the third grade, and they figure out why. I have had those students before teaching advanced, and their self-confidence was not as strong at the beginning of the year. Yet finally, at least they made it to fourth grade. However, they were not reading for pleasure. With increased interventions now, the feelings of some of these students must be of tremendous frustration because they are being submerged into something they greatly dislike for extra minutes a day, even sacrificing electives in middle school. Imagine wanting to play in the band or take an art class because that is your passion- and instead be told that you must focus on reading for another period a day. Being someone who loved taking music and art classes, it was a welcome break during my day. Reading had its time, but I loved how relaxed I felt when I could delve into musical theory or use oil pastels in a new way.

    I think also that some kids are never taught to find "just right" books. A lot of teachers do not utilize the workshop model- A LOT more than we realize. Besides that, we will always have students who are more acclimated with numbers than the joy of reading, but we can help them to make connections with graphic novels and so much more. Last, just EXPOSING kids to good books- and reading them in class- can make a colossal difference in itself!

    Thanks for being a middle school teacher who CARES (and of course, an FCAT comrade because you understand specific concerns beyond). :hugs:

    Now to bed. :yawn: :2cents: :|
     
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    I have found my biggest competitor with reading is technology. My students would rather watch the movie than read the book. And let's face it-the movie industry is making movies about everything. I still model reading with them (SSR), teach very animated and enthusiastic reading lessons despite the basal we have to use, and share my love of reading with the class. However, very few will pick up books to read for pleasure. One of my students actually told me that the movie will be out soon, and why bother reading the book! Stab to my heart! In recent years, I have also found that my kids are starting to write more in "texting" mode. I hate to see UR for "your" on a paper! YIKES!
     
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    And before technology those same kids would be playing outside instead of reading, tinkering with something, instead of reading, and anything they could, instead of reading. It isn't as if most kids had this great love of reading even before the huge technology hit.

    The difference is, kids read about so many relevent things. They read about frogs, rocks, famous people, when they were learning to read. Sure there were some fiction stories, but there was much that was about simple things when they were learning how to read. Now we have many creative stories that we push to teach reading instead of using books that aid in creating more background knowledge for the student. While not all schools are like this, the focus on novel reading does a disservice to the students. In our district we don't have science textbooks (which might be fine if they were reading about science related information in other forms). The only form of reading our kids do most of the time is fiction and chapter books. Most of the time the stories are great, but not really realistic to the student's life so they don't increase missing background knowledge which is KEY to academic learning and peaking interest in the world around them.
     
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    Although I teach first grade, I have nieces an nephews (and a now-grown daughter) who struggled/struggle with reading and/or "dislike" to read as well. I teach in a very urban, very low-income neighborhood. My school (and most of my district, as well) is grounded in a basal-based, intervention-driven reading program. Is our basal bad? Not from what I've seen so far (the first grade part). Can it be supplemented with "authentic" literature? Absolutely! However, I have some thoughts...

    I wonder sometimes, if all the "intervention" instruction we are doing is not teaching children to hate reading. We spend soooo much time repeating the same instruction over and over (mostly phonics at my grade level), that the kids really get bored! I try to vary my approach, but I do that at my own peril, because we (have been in the past, no idea what will happen this year) are required to follow a certain "methodology."

    I think that students of all ages should be exposed to many, many styles, types, and genres of literature. Not everything is going to appeal to everyone. I am a voracious reader - like a PP, I always checked out the maximum number of books, and read them all long before the deadline (still do). However, in high school, we had to read Ethan Frome, and I despised it! I loved Huckleberry Finn and the Shakespeare I was exposed to - in fact, I can honestly say that there is only one book I have ever disliked! Perhaps if we explain to students that, while they may not enjoy every piece of literature we read, it is important that we DO read it, in order to broaden our horizons and to determine what types of literature we really do like!

    I know that most of my little ones, who do not have the benefit of a "workshop" model because of my school/district's approach, leave my classroom loving reading. I have a well-stocked classroom library of books at levels from no-word picture books to 5th-6th grade level, fiction and non-fiction (although I need more non-fiction), on popular (current) topics/genres and not. I allow for self-selected independent reading (after MUCH instruction, modeling, and practice), and by the end of 1st grade, most (definitely not all) of my students are reading chapter books and completing book reports of their own free will. I think it helps that I let my students know how very much I love reading, and I demonstrate this almost daily (and sometimes multiple times daily) by reading aloud to them, with passion, enjoyment, and theatric voices.

    Just some random thoughts....
     
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    I think kids start to hate reading for two reasons.

    If they are struggling readers, the start to hate reading when they know they struggle, but aren't taught any strategies to improve as a reader. A worksheet will not make a good, reader, or make someone who already struggles like reading more.

    For kids who are able to read but CHOOSE not to, it's because reading has become a chore for them, not something they enjoy. Instead of being allowed to select books that interest them, they're forced to read the same novel unit as everyone else, at snail speed, filled with quizzes and ridiculous activities.
    No adult would choose to read that way? Why do we make our kids?
     
  12. Silmarienne

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    Great topic. Just some more thoughts. It's well-documented that families who read generally produce kids who read. Most parents who read do so because they find it rewarding (not because they have to). It may be that those who 'hate' reading are not getting that reading IS rewarding.

    Even among families that read, maybe it's strictly romance novels. What 12-year old boy is going to want to read that? Kids need to realize that if they have an interest, very likely there is a great book out there for them to read about it. Then they will know all kinds of cool stuff about it. For example, last year I had a very, very bright Kindergartner who wasn't motivated to read... until I showed him a book about sharks. He pored over that thing for days, every chance he got.

    Even struggling readers can enjoy the pictures, and hopefully that will lure them into the text.

    I agree that kids will have to read stuff they don't want to read in order to succeed in school (and life), but I hope we can also guide them to understanding the rich treasure-trove that books are of information about stuff THEY are interested in.
     
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    I can only speak for myself, since i do not teach elementary school or reading....but i remember starting to hate reading when I was in 5th grade....that was around the time when books started getting longer and less pictures...looking back at my report cards, I was reading at the 6th grade level in 4th grade...i don't know if that is good or not, but that gap definitely closed when i was in middle school.

    I started liking to read again once i was in college, especially "re-reading" all the classics i cliff-noted back in high school.
     
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    My own kids (ages 12 and 11) are avid readers. They adore it. My oldest goes through at least a book a day in the summer (gotta love her Nook and it's library loaning feature!). She is a 7th grader.

    I am also an avid reader, so they have that as a role model. I think that is very important. It does help draw interest to books when there are movies out that connect to books (Harry Potter, Percy Jackson....I'm actually reading The Help aloud to my kids now, planning on taking them to the movie when it's released).

    My younger one (almost 8) hates reading. It breaks my heart to hear her say that, but she does. She's not as fluent at it, so it's harder for her, and she gets discouraged.
     
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    I agree - even the books I choose to read aloud to my kids. ( I still read to my middle schoolers at bedtime :wub:). I tried Huck Finn, and it was WAY beyond them.

    But my daughter's teacher did Gossamer with her 6th grade class this year and it was very well received.
     

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