What's your schools average class size? (Or, what's your class size?)

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  1. otterpop

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    What's your school's average class size? (Or, what's your class size?)

    How many kids do you have in your class? Or in classes on average at your school?

    Some districts in my area have 35 kids, no aide, in elementary. That scares me!
     
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    When I taught in NC, K-3 was capped at 24. Even teaching 5th, I never had a class larger than 27.

    Most districts where I live fill them up- meaning 30-32 per classroom. Even kindergarten. No aides.

    I teach in a small district. We have a K-6 school and a 7-12. So we tend to have smaller class sizes. I currently have 20 kindergarteners. I don't believe anyone has more than 28.
     
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    I have 18 students this year. Average class size school wide is probably about 20.
     
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    I have 28. Average class size is 20 for K-2, and it's about 27 or so for 3-6.
     
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    On average we all have 21-22 in K. Tha limit is 25 in k-2 and 30 in 3-5.
     
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    I haven't had less than 25 in the past 5 years. Didn't know how good I had it before then with 18! ;)
     
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    A full class is considered 22, however around late March I believe the max class size can go up to 23 for us primary. 5th grade teachers can have up to 25.
     
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    My school ranges from 18-33. The lower grades have smaller class sizes, but fourth and fifth grade all have over 30 students. There are no aides, except inclusion classes have a gen ed and special ed teacher.
     
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    My friend in San Diego teaches 3rd grade and has 32 kids (maybe a couple more, can't remember). No aide.

    I teach at a court / community school, 15 is a normal class size for us. Currently I have some classes with 16-17, and have some with 10. We'll probably end up with 16+ in each class within the next couple of weeks. For us that's like 30-35
     
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    26 in mine, 24-26 in all our grades including 1st, although this year 3rd ended up with 29 in each class. Most of the other elementary schools in my district typically have 17-22, for whatever reason we're on the bigger side both for class size and total students in the building. Not sure if they plan to redistrict at some point to get the numbers a bit more even throughout the district.
     
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    In the district I sub in, I've had a class as small as 16 kids, and a class (in a portable of 5th graders, ha) of about 35 kids. Granted, both of those are at a school that is being closed next year, so they didn't want to do too much weird shuffling, and many of the younger kids got transfers to other schools. The district average is probably 24-26, and the class I did my maternity leave position in was 26.
     
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    K max is 20. 1-3 max is 25. 4-5 max us 28. All classes in my school are completely full, so I have 28 5th graders.
     
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    I have 23....I can't imagine having 30 or more!
     
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    I have 21 because I'm at a charter - public schools in my area have bigger class sizes. I will have up to 28 fifth graders at my new school next year. That's fine with me because many public districts in CA have far more than that in upper elementary. I student taught with 34 sixth graders. A friend student taught in a class with 37 fifth graders. CA's class sizes are unbelievably insane, especially in certain districts...
     
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    I have 28 in my grade 7 class this year.

    Our JK/K classes can have up to 30 (with 2 teachers), grades 1-3 are capped at 20, grades 4-6 can have up to 30, grades 7 and 8 up to 32.
     
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    I teach in a k-3 building. In second grade I have 27 students, 12 of which are special needs.
    We have half day kindergarten which averages around 25 students per class. First grade runs 30-34 per room. Our third grade runs 24-28 per room.
    We took my daughter for a college tour at a public university on Saturday. The tour guides said the classes directly related to their majors have 10-15 students max per class. I did look this information up on the college's website, and it is true.
    That fact makes me a bit crazy as I try to meet the needs of so many young students at one time.
     
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    About 22, this year. Our district contract mandates an aide at 25 for K - 2, and at 27 for 3 - 5.

    MS and HS have student load numbers (150?).
     
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    I have several classes...

    School A
    Grade 5FI - 22
    Grade 4FI - 19
    Grade 4PIF - 24
    Grade 4SS/Sci - 7

    School B
    Grade 3 - 20
    Grade 4 - 10

    (FI = French Immersion, PIF = Pre-Intensive (or Core) French, SS/Sci = Social Studies and Science)

    The reason my two small grade four classes are so low is that I teach the grade fours in a 4/5 split at both schools.
     
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    In my grade level non of us are over 20. In first grade they are at our state max of 22 and the other two grades have somewhere between 18-22 I am not sure about them. Our other elementary school has much lower than us because they are a smaller school. I have no clue what the other school such as intermediate, middle school and high school average. At our school we don't have aids per say, but we do have floating tutors. They are payed for with a grant. They arent school employees. We have two at each grade level and we share them.
     
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    I have 27 in preschool.

    The kinder has 32, as do many classes.

    It depends on the district, etc. here but the fine for not doing class size reduction is less than paying for the extra teacher so most districts upped class size in the last couple of years.

    My friend in another district teaching 6th grade has 38.

    I agree with a previous poster - California is crazy right now.
     
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    I will say that our caps for elementary are:

    K-2 - 21 students (with a kindergarten support worker provided when you have 20 or 21 students)
    3 - 26
    4- 27
    5 - 28

    Split classes at the K-2 level are maxed at 16, while at the 3-5 level it is maxed out at 21 or 22 (not sure)

    If there is a split 2/3, it can max out at 16.
     
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    I think we have district-wide caps, but it's not a law. In my district, class sizes vary, which is really frustrating. Here are some of the ranges that I am aware of in primary:

    -Kindergarten: 15-23
    -1st: 15-24
    -2nd: 17-24

    I think 3rd and 4th grade is usually a bit higher. The highest I've heard of is 27. My school is the largest elementary in the district, so we're always at the higher end of those numbers. I've always had 22-24 kids. We don't have aides, either (only if a SPED student needs support).
     
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    I have 21 in my class, but it caps at 23.
     
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    I have 19 in my 4th grade class, but my class was made especially for the kids who enrolled late. Before they created my class, some teachers were up to 38 kids. :eek:

    Most now have 35, which is usually the max. I've been getting ALL the new ones.
     
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    I don't agree with major differences in cap sizes between elementary and middle school. I haven't taught high school so I'm not sure I can speak about that level. I think those numbers come from back in the day when classes were much more lecture-based and need to be reconsidered.
     
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    K-3 is capped at 18, 4-5 is 22. I have 16 in my homeroom, 18 for reading, and 17 for math.
     
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    My class sizes range from 11 (AP English) to 30 (Latin I). 18-25 is the average.
     
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    I would possibly agree with you if you're talking about 4th and 5th grade. I strongly believe that K-2 needs smaller class sizes, and especially K-1. They are just SO MUCH less independent than the older kids, and it takes a lot of individualized attention to teach kids how to read. And did I mention they are SO MUCH less independent? :lol:

    Around here, upper elementary and middle school aren't much different. 4th-8th grade classes typically have 33-37 kids, and high school classes have that or possibly around 40 in the lower income areas...
     
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    22 in mine!
    But this is unusual. Average I'd say is about 25, but I've had as many as 33, and there are few classes in my school this year with 37.
     
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    I've taught a class with 32 6th graders, and with 28 3rd graders. Give me the 32 6th graders.
     
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    That's fine. Everyone will of course have different experiences and opinions. I've taught both ends and think middle school numbers should be capped lower if I am going to do all the wonderful things I should as a teacher. Truly differentiating, for example.
     
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    I don't disagree that numbers should be capped lower for middle school, but elementary, especially primary, should be lower still. Middle schoolers can work independently for much longer periods, and can hold their attention on tasks for longer periods of time. Differentiation with any group of 30 kids isn't easy, but it's a lot more likely to happen properly with middle schoolers than with 2nd or 3rd graders, and if you try it with Kinders or 1st graders... good luck.
     
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    My first year was the best because the recession hadn't hit yet, so I started out with only 18 children, then two students left midyear, so from November - June, I only had 16 children. They made amazing progress.

    Since then, the average class size for primary is between 22 - 28. In the higher grades, their sizes are higher, about 35.

    I met a teacher from California (not sure what part) at a conference who said that in her school there weren't enough chairs or desks for students, so she kids had to lean against the wall or sit on the floor at her school. :eek: I hope she was pulling my leg
     
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    I don't think either should be teaching thirty.

    If middle school is capped at 25, though, I don't think elementary should necessarily automatically be adjusted accordingly. Seems "tit for tat" if you will. But I guess that would be nice. :)
     
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    22-28 students is about normal. When our 6th grade classes reached about 33 each this fall, they hired another teacher.
     
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    I have between 17 and 25 students in my classes.
     
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    I have 14 students.
     
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    Right now I have 18 - average for our school is about 20. Last year I had 27 (with an aide only 45 minutes out of the day) until October.

    Oh, I teach kindergarten btw.
     
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    24 in k , 30 in 1st-5th
     

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