What would it take to legally establish teacher unions in states where they are currently banned?

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  1. Aces

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    Aren't they striking in/around Nash county on May 1st? Didn't they close schools for it?
     
  2. TeacherNY

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    I guess it's up to the individual to research the schools they are applying to work in and find out if they have a union (if that's what you're looking for).
    It's also a misconception that private schools do not have unions but I work in a private school and we have one.
     
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    The problem in a non-unionized state is that teacher have no power to counter any of the nonsense that is pushed upon them from admin and the district. This could be anywhere from implementation of poor practices or flat out violations of state code. Admin gets comfortable not having teachers counter them for the benefit of the classroom and for those who may challenge them are seen as “rocking the boat” and they will find a way to get rid of them.
     
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    That has not been my experience at all, living in a non-union state.
     
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    Not my experience in AZ--a right to work state. I have seen the admin. incredibly scared of the union when it got strong when I worked in public schools. West Virginia, Arizona, and other states are learning to exercise union power even in a right to work state.
     
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    And vice-versa! I think we overgeneralize a lot -- union and non-union can both be situations that can work / not work. Looooooootttsss of elements at play!
     
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    I agree. That’s why I’m always careful to say “At the private school where I work, we...” I don’t generalize to say ALL private schools do what mine does. ;)
     
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    I’m a union gal! My current supe began her career in a ‘right to work state’ and would probably prefer that as an admin. Our association has gone toe to toe with her on a variety of issues where she tries to wield power over policy. Statewide, our union is beginning to chip away at attacks to our pension, health care and collective bargaining rights. Without unions, we would not have sick leave, child labor laws, workers comp, overtime, weekends....
     
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    No, not striking. Teachers took one day off and many school systems closed because there weren't enough subs. Everyone will be back on May 2nd.
     
  10. Reality Check

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    Pennsylvania recently put through a bill that allows teachers to NOT join a union if they don't want to. Personally, I think the PSEA has outlived its usefulness a long time ago, they've sold out. If I were teaching today, I would not join.
     
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    The CNN article clearly says:
    Thousands of North and South Carolina teachers are protesting -- but not just for the reasons you might think
     
  14. ready2learn

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    Same for South Carolina. A rally, not a strike.
     
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    From the aforementioned article,
    “What will happen next?
    If Wednesday's protest doesn't produce enough change, teachers could be out of classrooms for much longer next school year.
    "We are prepared to work with the Legislature to avoid a long-term walkout, which will most likely happen next year at this time if these needs aren't met," Walker said.”

    Teachers will “rally” next year, too. Riiiggghhht.
     

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