What kinds of things have you had to miss school for?

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  1. ssgirl11

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    Agreed! I barely want to go to my own wedding, haha! I like the commitment, not the pressure of the event!
     
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    You are a very sensible person.
     
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    @futuremathsprof, I fear/hope the universe creates you your own romcom.

    I like romance and I like weddings, but if were given the responsibility of picking if government watched marriages or not, I'd say not.
     
  4. YoungTeacherGuy

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    I have zero qualms about using sick days. None whatsoever. I think I have about 40 days banked right now, though.
     
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    I hope you never have to deal with sickness or death of a parent. I hope that you never have to help a child who is dealing with mental health issues. I hope that you never have an elderly parent who needs your help. I take my personal days seriously, but my family will always come first. I give my all for my students, but I also realize that I am not irreplaceable to them; I am to my family.
     
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    I’m not saying that you can’t or shouldn’t use your personal days for family emergencies, doctor’s visits, car repairs, etc. Those are legitimate reasons to take time off work. However, I AM saying that you should limit your use of them to those instances only. For example, taking a day off just because you feel like it is not fair to every other worker who doesn’t have the luxury to do that at their place of work, and it is certainly not fair to your students for them to miss a day of education because you didn’t feel like teaching that day. Teachers are typically contracted to work 180 calendar school days and should actually work on those days.
     
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    I think most teachers agree to use them responsibly. But I don't think we should fear using them to the point of being misers.
     
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    How do you look at professional development opportunities in the context of this question? You are out of the classroom, but you are gaining valuble skills. My principal actively encourage PD days, but I always dread the day my students get behind.

    I also think of the ten sick days we get and I just worked through a terrible sore throats and cough. Ethically, I feel that I am exposing all my students to a virus. Yet, so many have been out with the flu that my little virus was nothing. I thought of calling in, but just felt sicker in a different way at the thought of it. I like the idea of banking sick days and getting them paid out! I will have to ask my building secretary about that!
     
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    I’d like to weigh in on this...

    If you’ve been in some lousy relationships, divorce and it’s price tag of changing your life can sour your outlook. The pomp and circumstance wedding can be a turn off. I even sold graduation ticket for my 2nd masters because I just wanted to be done. Mail me the degree, I’m not spending $ to walk across the stage.

    What I think is unfair is you commit your life to someone, but if they get sick and die, you are left alone and broke. The institution of marriage dictates for richer for poorer, you are supposed to care for one another, and the government will cover you.

    If I marry my guy, I stand to lose a big chunk of change from my ex’s social security.

    Nothing romantic about that.

    But my guy realizes I earn more as a teacher, by living together, isn’t he getting the milk free without buying the cow?

    Maybe we should start a new thread....

    When I am sick, my job doesn’t pay sick days. So if my man gets sick, should I stay home and care for him? He won’t reimburse me for missing work. Or stay home with sick grand baby so daughter won’t miss work? She only offers 1/3 of what I earn in a day. Is that fair??

    If I was married and worked for a public school, I could get paid in all 3 situations.
     
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    I found free CPUs and my director didn’t want to pay me for them! Not fair for me to use my nights and weekends for job related trainings. I always find this a Catch-22. You want to improve yourself but school hesitant to pay you! :confused:
     
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    Very valid points. I, too, get paid in all 3 situations at my private school. It is very competitive in terms of benefits and salary packages. However, I just don’t believe in marriage. I stand to lose a lot more than I will gain.
     
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    I would to discuss this more. Seriously considering a domestic partnership, simply so we can have medical benefits and rights to care for one another, but taxes and social security won't be affected. Care to join me in a new thread??
     
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    Sure, I’m down. If you can start it, then I’ll continue our conversation!
     
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    Whatever I want. Lol

    Sick and personal days help you keep your sanity. I roll a few over now than earlier in my career, but I'm taking both every year!
     
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    I normally only take off a coupe of days per semester for being sick or needing a day away from it all(mental health day). This year I have taken a lot. I have been dealing with extreme shoulder pain, started in July but really started affecting me in November and since the beginning of January I have been living in extreme pain. That meant being in pain while not even doing anything, at night waking up every 2 hours from pain, to the point of crying (and I'm not a crier). I tried chiropractor, and acupuncturist (all after school hours), nothing worked. In January I went to a doctor who diagnosed me with frozen shoulder, a lot of inflammation, adhesions and a tear. I took some days off because I just couldn't deal with pain. Cortisone shot didn't work, and even physical therapy didn't work. I would say I probably took off about 5-7 days since January, and I just had surgery 3 days ago. I'll be off for a month, possibly another week or so if I need it and I'm not going to worry about anything.
    I have suffered enough, worked under being medicated, in pain, and it was just horrible. Classroom management suffered a little because who wants to argue and battle over little stuff when all you want to do is lay down and cry??
    I had to make lesson plans for the entire 4 weeks, I even had all copies made for 80% f the work and have a good sub in place, so I won't feel guilty, all I will focus on is getting better and not stress.
    I'm sure this is a once in a life time deal (hopefully) and this is exactly why we have sick leave.
     
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    Hope things get better Linguist92021....
     
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    Hoping for the best for you, Linguist!

    I've taken some sick days this year after taking none in my first year at my current school. Two days were for the flu, but the rest were to get a diagnosis for a chronic health issue. I've only taken two or three personal days in the past two years.
     
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    The 3-4 months you get off throughout the year in the form of short days, minimum days, and extended breaks is not enough for you to keep your sanity, lol?
     
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    Thank you everyone
     
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    I'm off tomorrow for a new reason--political rally.
     
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    Must be Kentucky!

    My boy Jimmy Dore gave me the scoop on that----good luck!!

     
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    Yes! It's certainly a huge mess. Most of the state is on spring break this week. Those of us who aren't on break are closed, so there aren't any school districts in session tomorrow.
     
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    Not with these kids.
     
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    As long as you're only taking the personal/sick days your'e allotted and not go over those days I don't see why you wouldn't want to take them!! Depending on what kinds of students you have, some classes really drain you physically and and mentally. I have had students who bite, throw chairs, run away from class (and we have to go chase them), etc. Come to my school for a week and see how long it takes for you to need a day off!
     
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    My group this year is emotionally exhausting. About 1/4 of my class show little (to no) respect for the expectations, the learning materials, or others. They are wearing me down, as nothing is working in the long term. While I'm not taking many sick days, I am actively looking for more PD that will take me out of the classroom for a day here and there.
     
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    Pneumonia had me out the first 2 weeks after Christmas!!
     
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    I banked nearly all my sick days during my first several years teaching. I had well over a hundred days saved up. When I had to go on extended medical leave, my district sort of left me in the lurch and only allowed me to use like a third of those days. For the remainder of my leave, I had to take unpaid days, even though I had plenty of sick days just sitting there. It turns out that my district regularly limits the use of sick days in certain medical situations, which I found (and still find) infuriating. After that point, I stopped caring too much about saving sick days. If I need a day off, I take it. What's the point of saving up my days if I can't use them when I need them?
     
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    I don't usually take sick days unless I am really sick. I take more professional development days than anything. I do take my required number of personal days each year (if we have more than 2 to carry over we only get paid half-time for them, so I would prefer to just use them). I will also take sick days when my husband requests that I go with him to his VA appointments.
     
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    We used to be able to bank any unused days--I had over 150 banked. During one of our last rounds of contract negotiations, a contract was imposed on us and all of our banked days were stripped and we are unable to bank any we don't use. Since then, many of us use most of our allotted days.
     
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    Does this mean you don’t have paid maternity/medical leave?
     
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    I think it’s common for districts to put a cap on sick days used during leave, but one third seems really low!
     
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    We do; our maternity leave is 12 months and we have generous short and long term medical leaves. The ability to bank unused days was a negotiated benefit. They could be used to supplement long term medical or be "cashed in" at retirement.
     
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    I would be infuriated if I was told I couldn't use my hard-earned sick time. I've banked well over a few months worth of hours.
     
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    My district limits the use of sick time during maternity leave. They will let you use your banked days for 6-8 weeks, but not for bonding time after that. A guy who breaks his leg will have more access to his banked sick days than a mom who has just given birth. It honestly feels like one more way that women in the workplace are held back.
     
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    I miss an average of one school day per year.
     
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    This is respectable.
     
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    I think the idea is to safeguard against some people who save up their sick leave, say for 100 days or some other huge amount, so that they can’t take several months off at a time. Imagine the damage that could do — that’s over half an academic school year, which is ridiculous.
     
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    I used to think like you, but in reality, you sometimes need a day off, a day to do nothing, a day to get caught up on homework, or whatever else you may need to do. Doctors don't always have the right hours. My primary care only works late on Thursdays and she's gone by noon on Wednesday & only works 2 Saturdays a month. If I need to see her, I may need to take a day off or a 1/2 day.

    We don't have short days. Extended breaks may not come at the right time.
     
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    But bonding time is an acceptable use of FMLA. If the federal government decides that bonding time is an appropriate reason to take a few weeks off from school, why can't the district allow someone to use up the sick days that they have earned and saved?

    A better solution to me would be to limit the number of days a person could bank. If they're not going to limit that, then I guess I don't see why it's okay for them to deny the use of sick time in the case of parental bonding. As I said, a broken leg may require 12 weeks off from school, or more, and the district won't limit the use of sick days in that circumstance. Why is parental bonding different, especially when it could be limited to FMLA allowances?
     

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