What is wrong with these people???

Discussion in 'Teacher Time Out Archives' started by Amers, May 24, 2007.

  1. Amers

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    I'm not sure how familiar people are with this story, but here's a quick background: Josh Hancock, a St. Louis Cardinals pitcher, was killed in a car accident at the end of April. He crashed his Explorer into the back of a tow truck that was stopped in the left lane of the highway assisting a stalled vehicle. Hancock was intoxicated at the time of the accident (BAC was 2x the legal limit), talking on his cell phone, and not wearing a seat belt. He was killed almost instantly.

    Now his father is suing Mike Shannons (the bar Hancock was drinking at), the tow truck driver, and the owner of the stalled car. He is claiming their negligence caused Hancock's death. Here is the article:

    http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=120218&provider=top

    They have a link to the actual law suit. If you read it, you'll see they repeatedly say Hancock "involuntarily" became intoxicated.....Maybe I'm not understanding something here, but how does a 29 year old....an ADULT who has drank before, "involuntarily" get drunk??

    Why can't people take responsibility for their own actions, or realize that sometimes people make bad choices that have bad consequences? Stop blaming everyone else! This was a tragedy, but this lawsuit is nuts. Sorry. Had to rant.
     
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  3. MissFrizzle

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    It is ridiculous, but I guess grief will do crazy things to a person. Especially when it's your child, and you don't want to admit it was their bad choices that resulted in their death.
     
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    That is crazy. People have become a little to sue-happy in our country. I think that it explains why students don't take responsibility for their own actions. Obviously the parents aren't teaching their kids to do so.
     
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    I wonder how quickly lawyers were coming around saying that it wasn't Josh's fault, that the bar should have stopped serving him. I agree that grief and guilt influenced him, but would he have done it if on his own without a lawyer prodding him and giving him a way to put it on someone else?
     
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    It's six of one and half dozen of another. I bet Tasha's right that there were probably lawyers in the picture (hoping to make some big $$$) and on the other hand, Amers, you're right, too. No one is willing to take responsibility for his/her actions anymore - it always has to be someone else's fault. It was a terrible waste of life, but let's get serious here... twice the legal limit, no seatbelt, talking on the cellphone, and possibly pot use (marijuana found in the vehicle) all in the "early morning hours", all point to his own d*** fault.

    Then again, I also blame the judicial system. Judges should throw these type of cases out of court with a large fine levied on the lawyers and plaintiffs for wasting the court's time.

    There, that feels better now. ;)
     
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    I heard about that and thought that it was completly ridiculous.
     
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    It isn't necessarily the judge's fault. A judge can't just summarily dismiss cases unless there is absolute good cause. Whether there is enough cause to proceed is decided at the preliminary hearing. And you have a constitutional right to a trial in a case where there are damages of over $20. It's up to the defendant (can't recall the civil title) to prove the plaintiff/petitioner's case is malicious prosecution or an abuse of process.

    What they say is that we have become "sue happy" because of jurors who are willing to award large settlements for these crazy kinds of cases. For instance, remember the lady who spilled McDonald's hot coffee on her lap and was awarded several millions? There was also a case of a burglar who fell through a homeowner's skylight while attempting to gain illegal entrance to (surpise!) burglarize the house. He broke his legs in the fall, sued for 3 or 4 million, and won.

    I don't know why they call it "sue happy" though, it's because of this that, for example, medical costs are out of control. We saw a program on PBS last year where doctors in several states were having to change careers or join HMO's because their malpractice premiums were $900,000/year and up!

    And, I don't know about anyone else, but I know that I hate HMO's! The doctor talks hurriedly with you for 5 minutes (after you've waited 1-2 hours BEYOND your appointment time) and if you have any more questions, they're inching toward the door only half paying attention to you. You can't get your own doctor to perform the simplest treatments, you have to get a referral, make another appointment with a "specialist" who is often not in your area, wait several weeks or months for the appointment, then when you get there, fill in 15 more forms, wait 1-2 hours, and start all over again.

    I know, "but tell me how you really feel..." :)
     
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    On a local new station's website they are having an online poll about who is responsible for the death: http://www.kfvs12.com/
     
  10. JenPooh

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    I'm rolling my eyes......
     
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    It's nice to see that most people think the accident was the result of Josh Hancock's choices/actions. It's even nicer to see that no one blames the guy whose car broke down on the highway.
     
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    It's upsetting that they even have to think twice about whose fault it was.... of course it was Josh's fault. BTW, if it was me or you, no one would care and they would blame us.
     

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