What do you do when kids leave for specialist support?

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  1. jeanie

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    I teach in a public school. I will have students who are "pulled out" of my class for additional support in reading and /or speech and language. They work with another teacher during the time they are out of the room. In the past I have been able to arrange my schedule so that they could leave during a 1 hour Centers Time. Then I gave them additional support (or had my instructional aide get them organized) when they returned so they could be brought up to speed. I have always felt they are missing critical time in the classroom. (While they are out for that 1/2 hour)
    This year I have no instructional aide. Should I have the in-classroom kids do a standby (sort of optional) activity? Should pull out kids take the missed work home for homework? I don't really want to fill the time with worksheets... although I may have to resort to that. But even if I did, shouldn't any enrichment or review that's important enough for the other kids to be doing also be important to the kids who were pulled out?
    Maybe I am making too big a deal of this...but everyone has such great ideas here. What do you think?
     
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  3. czacza

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    I teach reading when my reading kids are out, I teach math when my math kids are out. They are not out EVERYDAY so I figure they get what they need both in and out of the room. When they are in the room I make sure to check in with them more often to make sure they are on track with concepts they may have missed some of while out of the room. You need to make your peace with pull outs- they aren't going to get all of you all the time- they are however getting what they need. They don't need to do everything they missed while out of the room. You can find pockets of time to catch them up on what they need. The rest of your kids in your room deserve more than worksheets when the one or two who are pulled out are gone...just don't make it TOO MUCH fun so the pull outs feel deprived for leaving...
     
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    I used to do what you did, czacza, but then I realized that if the kids are being pulled by the reading specialist because they are at risk for reading, then they would really benefit from extra reading time. So it doesn't make sense to me to do reading while those kids are gone.

    That said, I know it is really difficult to schedule around all the kids that need to be pulled out. What I am going to try this year is to overlap - so for example, if my math goes from 10-11 and reading goes from 11-12, maybe the kids could get pulled at 10:45 and come back at 11:15. Then they would miss the end of math and just part of reading.
     
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    Good points from both of you, thanks. Hmmm. Overlap of the subject areas, Mrs. T. I will give that some thinking time. They wouldn't be missing as much of any one subject. I wouldn't really be allowed to do it czacza's way because what specialist instruction they get should be "in addition to regular classroom instruction," and for reading they are out for that 1/2 hour everyday, so it really is a significant amount of time. Speech and language is only about twice a week. So it is less of a problem.
     
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    At our school they don't want the reading kids pulled out during reading instruction or guided groups. They are pulled 3 days a week. So I plan for self-selected reading and journal writing 2X a week - that way they still do that 3X each week and Scholastic News once a week and they take those home to read with their parents. I feel the students in the class are doing meaningful activities, but not instruction that the reading kids might miss.
     
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    Scholastic news and self selected reading are two options that would work well for me. I was struggling with having them miss journal writing, but you are right, if they don't miss writing everyday, it is not nearly as big a problem. Thanks, everyone, for continuing to help me think this through. The conversation has been very helpful!
     
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    Our school has put a block on kids being pulled during reading and math. Services hates this, but it's what is best for the kids. I don't count what they miss against them and I usually don't have them make it up unless it's an important assignment. It is in their IEP or 504 to be pulled so you actually can't count it against them.

    Oh, and I'm in the school that is the hub for the exceptial family program for the military so we have TONS of kids that are pulled. I would be doing fillers all day if I did that ;) .
     
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    I try to fill the time with things that don't require make-up work and yet benefit the kids still in class.
    logic games (connect four, battle ship, Uno, Rack-o)
    Computer lab
    scholastic news (the kids who miss like doing these at home...so do parents)
    silent reading
    Students read aloud to each other (great with joke books)
    Buddy read with an older class
    Parent read aloud
     
  10. jeanie

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    Thanks!!! Your ideas have been very helpful. I had not thought of the partner read idea. With some of the kids out of the class, it might actually be even easier to do this. Great time to schedule a parent read-aloud too. Now I just have to think of something clever to call this flexible time on my schedule. That way I have a reason this time is legitimately in the schedule, but I have the flexibility to use it in many of the ways listed above.
     
  11. Ms.E

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    This year, my school has actually decided to pull kids for title and what not during their specials time.... this sounds like a good idea, and since there are 6 different specials that rotate, they wont miss out on pe or art the whole year, it will be every now and then that it happens...we have also asked to have an extra 10 mins for recess (instead of 20 mins to 30 mins) so those who are pulled out get that extra time to release some energy but we'll see if they agree with this.
     
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    I'd be interested in an update on how it goes. We have music(60 minutes a week), art (60 minutes a week), and Phy ed (60 minutes a week plus recesses). Our specials are not rotated, but have a set day and time each week.
     

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