What are your consequences for no homework?

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  1. Belch

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    None at all. Assigning homework is something I rarely do, but when I do, it's because I am giving them an idea of what to do to reinforce what goes on during my class that they can't do in my classroom, assuming they want to do it.

    My students have their own lives to live, and assigning homework assumes that they have nothing scheduled once the last bell rings and the school day is over.

    I will let them know what is going to be taught in the next class so they can prepare, if they have the time or inclination, but it's not really necessary as I introduce the subject matter at the beginning of the class anyway.

    I think the same idea translates to elementary school children. Their parents assume responsibility for them once they are out of the teacher's hair, and then it is up to the parents to be parents. They might have their own ideas, and that has to take precedence over my ideas. I'm not their parent. I'm just their teacher.
     
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    I've had the same thoughts, actually. What I think I'm starting to edge towards is a feeling that it's less the fact that I "assign" homework, but more the fact that there are resources available. Those families that are strong anyways will utilize those resources, those where there are weaker connections or less academic worry tend not to utilize resources. I still like them building some form of responsibility, but really pull back so much that it's something that they can easily accomplish...and always share and put out there plenty of extensions and other resources.

    Besides, the more time I can free up to "steal reading time", the better :p
     
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    In my classes (AP Stats and AP Calculus AB/BC), the homework category constitutes 30% of their overall grade. The students quickly find out that all of my homework assignments are made by myself, and so they can’t just search for the answers online and actually have to think. If a student doesn’t do the homework in my class, then they don’t pass. Period.

    Students who whine about homework get over it pretty quickly if they want to take higher level math and succeed at my school.

    TLDR; if a student doesn’t do the homework assignments in my class, then they can’t get a grade any higher than a D+.
     
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    30% for an AP class!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Lucky kids. And here I thought 20% for a CP class was too generous. Our AP and honors math classes have to keep HW worth 0% to control grade inflation, and to make sure the grade reflects individual knowledge and efforts.The homework is suggested in honors/AP for practice only to help students prepare for assessments.

    Even in CP, I think giving a kid who can ace tests/quizzes a low grade for not doing HW is not reasonable. If the kid can ace without doing it, doing the HW would clearly be a waste of their time. So I give any CP student who gets a 90 on my unit test an automatic 100% for homework.
     
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    I appreciate the arguments for homework and they likely apply to some grade levels, but lower elementary? I think reading is all they need. Or perhaps I just don't know the art of assigning homework.

    I still think that in this day and age, extra practice in the math and language foundations is so readily available and accessible to the parents to the point they can just get it themselves. Point out a few resources and there you go.
     
  6. Pi-R-Squared

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    Homework is for practice, practice, practice...... An athlete doesn't get better without it...... Musicians practice at home... Singers sing at home..... So why not our subject matter?
     
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    Actually, they’re not lucky. As aforementioned, I make my own problem sets and they are significantly more difficult than the bookworm problems. This is also why I have a 98% pass rate on the AP test because my homework, quizzes, and tests are intentionally made more difficult than the AP exam. I’ve been told by students that they thought the AP test was easier than my final exam and chapter tests.
     
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    I'm not saying your students are ill-prepared or that your HW is too easy or anything, only that I guarantee your problem set solutions are on a Facebook group somewhere, and that 30% is an awfully generous amount for AP students for something that may or may not reflect what they really know. I guess my bias is my district sets the rates at 20% for CP and 0% for honors/AP as the admin knows HW, no matter how challenging it is, inflates grade (as long as the students do it!) .
     
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    At my college — and I went to one of the top public institutions in the entire country — the homework assignments often counted for a major part of your grade. Why? Because they: 1) forced you to collaborate with your peers like you would in a work setting, 2) enhanced your problem solving ability, and 3) taught you to meet deadlines. You could not finish them without deep knowledge of the subject matter (for example, when I took C++ Object-Oriented Programming the programming projects were worth more than the midterm and final combined!) and by having to spend a lot of time on them you mastered the material.

    The professors modeled the homework assignments after the kind of assignments someone would have to do on the job because they recognized they’re more important than being able to answer questions on a test. An employer doesn’t just care if you know the material, they care if you can APPLY it to solve problems. I make my students work extremely hard even though it’s a high school class because they are over prepared when they go to college. For example, a student I taught when first starting teaching who just finished his undergrad degree emailed me and thanked me for making him work so strenuously because it made his college pale in comparison.

    We need to make students struggle so that they can perform in the real world, not coddle them with little to no work because homework is “tedious.”
     
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    It makes no difference because I make new ones every year. I literally spend one entire week each summer generating new ones, so I tell my students good luck with that!
     
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    I don't really give any, if we can't get it done in 6 hours a day, we are probably doing it wong.
     
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    Sorry for the thread jacking, but what software or add-ons do you prefer using when creating your own material? (For graphs, integral signs, etc.)
     
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    Without replying to any particular post - keep in mind there's both secondary and elementary teachers within this thread, and the research certainly differs for homework in each (minimal to no/negative benefit in elementary, slightly positive benefit in secondary). Thus, my posts are specific to elementary.
     
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    Also keep in mind that the OP hasn't been seen since 2009 ;)
     
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    I use the formula editor in Microsoft Word using the quick key “Alt + (+ =)” to bring up the equation menu.

    Also, I just type the function or expression I want in WolframAlpha and then click and drag the picture into Microsoft Word.
     
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