Way too many teachers

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  1. mego65

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    I called one of the districts I applied to today to find out how many positions they have. They just list elementary teachers. I was informed 5 positions are available, and then the wow part, so far they have received 500 applications. WOW! Of course, principals do the hiring and it says to not contact them at all. Well, thank you now I have no way to separate myself from the other 499 applications. I hate this economy!!
     
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  3. melissa803

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    @#$%! That sucks...
     
  4. emmakate218

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    Which district, mego65?
     
  5. leighbball

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    Unfortunately, thats the way it was when I was applying back in 2003 and 2004...so its not just the economy, some areas (like elem ed) are just saturated with applicants. :hugs:
     
  6. Aliceacc

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    Right, leigh.

    That's pretty standard in the NY/NJ/CT area.
     
  7. lemonhead

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    And pretty much standard with any occupation.

    I think I read that there wer 250,000 job applications for a few jobs at Lone Star Park horse track for the summer.
     
  8. MsMar

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    Last year a district I applied to that had 6 or 7 openings had about 2,500 applicants. Many are not that extreme, but 1000 is pretty much expected. It sure does stink.
     
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    I agree with other posters - it is not the just the economy. We are a very small rural district, less than 3000 students in the entire district. While serving my turn on the hiring committee 4 years ago, we would get about 300 apps for each elementary posting, about 250 for every jr high posting and depending upon the subject matter between 300 - 400 for every high school posting. Colleges and univeristies continue to spread the myth of the famous teacher shortage. For the 20 years I have had my teaching license, I have never experienced a teaching shortage, rather the opposite.

    Because of this, you need to do everything you can to become employable; allowed multiple people to read and revise your resume, apply EVERYWHERE, (most teachers have some story to tell about their first job and it usually isn't pleasant) and beat the streets. It is a job trying to find a job.

    Good Luck
     
  10. palla

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    Our county had a single opening for a plumber, and 107 people applied for that job. It was listed for only a few days.
     
  11. chemteach55

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    It really depends on the area of the country that you live in. My daughter graduates in elementary education next May and she has a job lined up for the Fall of the 2010-2011 already. She is in a 5 year program and will actually graduate with her masters and bachlors at the same time. She has worked at the school doing aftercare and will do an internship next school year with a 3rd grade teacher who is retiring at the end of the school year and my daughter will take her job the year after that. This is a private school but the public schools in the are also still have openings for this school year. Since we are in the south the pay is low but it is a job and the cost of living is not quite as high as in other areas.
     
  12. frogger

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    Was that in California or Texas?
     
  13. mego65

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    It was in Texas, the Austin area. That is what surprised me, I know they are saturated, but they are still at least growing and hiring. In CA two years ago I applied for a job in my district. 2 positions available 2000 applicants. That was the last 2 positions they filled, nothing since then. I didn't get it, and was upset, but those teachers got laid off, so it's not like I missed too much.

    CA I expect it, I really wanted it to be a bit better in Texas. But, shouldn't expect anything different right now.
     
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    The universities need to make their money somehow. I can't tell you the number of times I have run into people that are considering teaching now because it's "recession" proof.
     
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    Well, IF that were true, we would all have jobs now wouldn't we?
     
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    I drove to Arizona last month and interviewed, hoping for a different outcome as well. That state is also facing major budget cuts and layoffs in the school districts.
     
  17. czacza

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    That's the key, mego...You have to make yourself stand out from the competition...I'm in N. NJ and it's typical for us to receive a hundred resumes for every one opening...
    Make your cover letter impeccable...Well-written, proof-read it several times and ask a few people to proof it as well. You can't imagine how many resumes end up in our 'no' pile because the covers are poorly written, grammatical errors, spelling errors. Tailor your cover letter to each school district, if possible.
    Play up your experience in your resume. Bullet innovative programs or activities you have designed and implemented. Show on your resume that you are familiar with current trends in education, that you have experience with research-based materials and strategies.
    You could post your resume and cover here and we can help tweak it...
     
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    I have already posted my cover letter and resume, and I think they are good. I have great experience I just like to have that contact with the principal.
     
  19. AFWifeinUtah

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    I hear your pain mego. I am facing something similar. I would suggest a neon color for your resume. It would definitely be noticeable!
     
  20. Groovy

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    I respectfully disagree. Nothing screams "UNPROFESSIONAL" like neon anything.

    jmho.
     
  21. TechTeach09

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    I think there was sarcasm intended on the neon post :lol::lol::)
     
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    I would have to agree that it was sarcasm
     
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    I heard that too - somewhere people think there are jobs in education and it is recession proof. I think they are misunderstanding the whole field - yes they always need teachers to teach children, etc., however there aren't going to be 1000's of teaching jobs available every year.
     
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    :lol::lol::lol:

    A nice bright pink I think! :p
     
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    From Czacza
    Play up your experience in your resume. Bullet innovative programs or activities you have designed and implemented. Show on your resume that you are familiar with current trends in education, that you have experience with research-based materials and strategies.

    Having earned my credentials not too long ago, and just now looking for my first job as teacher, I don't think I can compete with experienced teachers who are able to include all that on resumes.
     
  26. emmakate218

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    I'm sure some will think this is open for debate, but imo, finding a job as a new teacher is a mix of being proactive and a little luck.
     
  27. BerniceBobs

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    But Mego, don't you know there is a great teacher shortage?
    Oh, and Bigfoot lives in my backyard.
     
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    You should consider Nogales!

    Did you consider Nogales Unified District #1--
    Many of our teachers were teaching outside there areas of expertise and therefore were considered not highly qualified. This past year the state department of education had forced most of our schools (and all Title 1 Schools throughout the State of Arizona) to let go of teachers who teach in Title One Schools and are not considered Highly Qualified.

    This has left 40 teaching positions open for next school year. I would encourage any teacher interested to apply-- Nogales is an awesome district in which to work.
    Scott Connuck
     
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    Hi Scott~

    I've heard teachers must be bi-lingual in Nogales, is that true? If so, I'm outa luck.
     
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    Nothing is further from the truth! In fact-- Nogales searches for teachers who are excellent ENGLISH role models, because children need the English in order to be successful in the U.S. business world. In order for Nogales students to have a fighting change of competing in the mainstream of American society, English is a must.

    If we have a problem, it is that many teachers fall short of competency in English, NOT in Spanish!

    I would suggest applying to Nogales for any teacher interested in making a huge difference in the lives of children, receiving among the highest salaries in Southern arizona (Proposition 301 monies totals about $8.000 in additional funds which may be added to your base salary each year), and working in a most unique, interesting, and friendly place. I have taught in Nogales since 1986, and NO-- I am NOT bilingual! Go for it! And Good luck! Scott
     
  31. AFWifeinUtah

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    There was sarcasm intended in the neon post. Honestly how can you differentiate yourself from 499 other applicants?
    Things are just very hard right now and sometimes we all need something to make us smile. The neon thing was a try at that.
     
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    You can pair that resume with a nice brochure.
     
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    Mr. Connuck, thank you very much for that information about Nogales. I will be looking into that possibility right away.

    I'm a latecomer to this discussion, which I think is an important one. It is certainly a challenge trying to stand out in applicant pools this year.

    Here's my situation: I have been in corporate education in Wisconsin for several years at a good salary, but got laid off this January. I had been thinking very hard about going back to high school teaching anyway -- I have learned that corporate environments tend to be unappealing to me, no matter the pay.

    My MAT is in English Education from BU (3.91 GPA); my BA is in American Studies from Yale (3.65 GPA). I taught English, history, and the social sciences at the high school, college, and adult levels before entering the BU program, but as a "permanent sub" or adjunct -- never as a full-timer. In a way this is good: I am not claiming any years of experience for compensation purposes.

    My recommendations are excellent; I had a perfect score on the Praxis II in English Language, Literature, and Composition/Content Knowledge; I was elected to Phi Delta Kappa while at BU.

    I have lined up an SP1 License for North Carolina, a Statement of Status of Eligibility for Florida, and a One-Year Certificate for Texas -- all in secondary and middle-school English. Wherever I land, I plan to pursue history/social studies as additional certifications after hire. The paperwork for the English certifications was the easier option for me at this stage.

    I have been applying to districts through Teacher-Teachers.com, NCPublicSchools.org, the Texas ESC Regional websites, and districts' own websites. I'm also informed of openings through through the Top School Jobs and Education America websites. I apply for private school jobs at the NAIS website. I have done about 60 online applications altogether so far this spring. I've had some requests for additional information (promptly supplied), but no interviews or real bites yet.

    I am open to working in other sun-belt states besides the three mentioned, and with the licenses I have now obtained, getting other states' licenses through reciprocity should generally be manageable. I am registered with the Recovery School District in Louisiana and have some hopes there, and I'm interested in the States of Arizona, New Mexico, and Nevada as well.

    I didn't aim for California, not because I dislike California -- I've lived there and I loved it -- but because the cost of housing is so high. I haven't pushed for Hawaii or the US Virgin Islands for the same reason.

    I interview very confidently and have no doubts about my ability to make an impression at that stage. But getting to that stage is such a challenge!

    I had intended to attend the Dallas-Fort Worth teacher job fair scheduled for this Monday, May 4, until it was canceled last Thursday because of swine flu (and I took a financial hit on that). I am looking at the Houston area fair scheduled for June 15 and 16. I would go to the Great Florida Teach-In, but it is being held virtually in July rather than physically in June this year. The North Carolina fairs are mainly single-district, which is not terribly cost-effective for me coming from out of state; a lot of them have been canceled this year.

    I have worked with inner-city populations in Chicago with success, so I feel that I can handle any assignment; as a long-term sub, you see everything. Of course, I do like working with very motivated students wherever that opportunity presents itself.

    I think that sums up my situation. Any advice or insights are most welcome!
     
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    WMark, I was going to suggest New Orleans, but you have that covered. I hope things work out for you.
     
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    smalltowngal, it is a district that does not allow any supplemental paperwork. I can't even submit a cover letter, or letters of reference. Just a confusing app, credential, and transcripts.
     
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    Well Indiana is terrible for just about anything..especially jobs!so it's not totally a myth.. just is in the great state of INDIANA! which is why I'm leaving the state!
     
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    I am glad you've retained your sense of humor Utah wife.
    We need that right now.
     
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    I applied to a district here in Michigan and there were over 10,000 applicants for the district jobs....I actually made it into 2 rounds of interviews....but nothing came of it yet..... :(

    Michigan teaching jobs are very HARD to come by....
     

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