Very Frustrated!!!!!

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  1. nikkipooh

    nikkipooh Rookie

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    I'm in a teacher cert. program. I have my BA in Criminology and decided to change my career. I'm working full time in my field and taking classes part time for cert in ECE. Here is the source of my discouragement: The cert program I am in is at the graduate level but its only 4 classes and then student teaching. I feel like I'm learning useful information but I just feel like a lot is being left out. Their philosophy is based on a very student oriented classroom, which I agree with but they seem too soft. They encourage learning through exploration, they have said things like you're not their to fill their "empty" heads with your information. I'm just confused, the classes I'm taking now are conceptual frameworks for teaching and learning (ed psych, but the teacher is awful, we don't go over any of our assigned readings, there is absolutely no lecture at all, we do meaningless group work, I don't feel like I'm learning much at all, and this is the consensus of a lot of the people I have talked to in my class. The other class is early literacy. I love this teacher, she is a 4th grade teacher an she is very knowledgeable. She introduces topics then models them for us and has us get into groups to practice them (ie: comprehension strategies, picture walking, retelling, story maps etc) This class is at 7:30p.m.-10p.m. (then 1hr drive home) after I work all day, I'm just not at my intellectual best, I'm exhausted. I just don't have an opportunity to see this come together in a classroom the only practicum is at the end when we do student teaching, there are a few observations we have to do but we haven't even talked about them yet. This post is sooo long, I'm sorry but I just feel frustrated b/c I'm in class with nothing to connect this info to, what can I do to make what I'm learning in class more meaningful to me, should I try to get a job as an aide? (and make half of what I make now:( , I can't do that) I'm ready to just quit , maybe this isn't for me, maybe this is something you have to do if you can concentrate all of your time on it.
     
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  3. Blue

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    Are there undergraduate classes that you missed out on?
     
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    As blue said, it's possible that there are undergrad courses that you missed out on which is why there is a disconnect there for you.
    Also, many people feel as though they didn't really learn much until they were in a classroom teaching. I went through a terrific program and had great professors, but I learned more as a student teacher and more recently as a long term sub than I ever did sitting in a college classroom. You said that they seem too soft. That's how I felt as well. We weren't taught much of anything about classroom management because it seems like we were always told "If you keep them active and engaged there won't be any discipline problems" Now, I don't know what districts my professors taught in, but that's just NOT always the case. Like I said, though, you'll really do the most learning once you're actually in a classroom teaching lessons that you've planned. If you think this is what you want to do, stick with it! Lots of people feel the way that you do when getting certified. Good luck!
     
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    I am concerned when you say you have only 4 classes then student teach. Is this a full time, you are the only teacher practicum? I remember doing small stints in the classroom as a team, while taking classes. The teaching experience lent meaning to the classroom.
     
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    I would like to know which college or university you are going to. I am certified in ECE and want to get my El. Ed. cert. I have to take 6-8 classes. I have been so frustrated because all the school districts around my area require El Ed. cert.
    I think it would be beneficial for you to work in a school setting. That way you would know more what they are talking about and you would be able to relate your class to your experiences. But then again, sometimes classes are just like that. It depends on the teacher.
     
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    Hmmm... Criminology to teaching... What a change! However, I suspect much of what you learned about the criminal mind will be useful to you in the classroom.:)

    FWIW everyone has classes and instructors that they enjoy, or make sense, or work for them, and some that don't. My guess is nearly everyone feels lost somewhere in the process. You don't have to totally buy into the methodology you are being taught. But you do need to learn it and apply it during your student teaching. Afterward, you can modify the methodology however you like. Nobody expects you to be perfect when you enter the classroom for the first time. And like any new experience, it could be very uncomfortable at first. You will get used to it. You will improve daily, or maybe make periodic leaps and bounds. My guess is you will find that you understand more than you think you do now.

    The only way you are going to know whether teaching is for you or not is to stick it out through student teaching.
     
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    I am giving this program a serious second consideration. I am probably not going to continue at this school, 4 classes is not enough. Teach123 you are right, most schools are requiring el cert, thankfully I have only taken 2 classes so I can change my area of cert. I am going to Rider University in Lawrenceville, NJ and I am sorry to say it was a big mistake. Where are you in Pennsylvania, teach123?? I am actually thinking of transfering to Arcadia or Chestnut Hill college, both in Philly.
     
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    I am in a small town between Lancaster and Reading, Pa. I have applied at West Chester and Immaculata University. I have been accepted at West Chester, but I am still waiting to hear from Immaculata. Since I have taken some grad. courses, and my undergrad was in Early Childhood Ed. Immaculata requires fewer courses for dual certification in El. Ed. and Special Ed.
     

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