VCLA Raw Scores???

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  1. Petlover

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    68% On the Reading
    I received a raw score of a 64% actual score was a 222 prior. I’ve seen someone post up here that 65% raw score is 227. Just wondering what are your thoughts??
     
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    Whether 65% correct (a raw score) on the reading test corresponds to a score of 227 (a scaled score) will depend on the specific version of the reading test that the test taker faced. Versions of a test, and individual questions, inevitably differ in difficulty, and so 65% correct on a less difficult version of a test could represent a lower level of achievement than 64% correct on a more difficult version. Scaling the scores is intended to compensate for those differences. But the result is that any claim that a given percentage (raw) score is always equivalent to a given scaled score is bogus.
     
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    futuremaths, I surmise that you meant this post for the thread on English Learner policies in California. This thread concerns raw scores on the Virginia Communication and Literacy Assessment (VCLA).
     
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    Thank you for catching that! Could you switch it over or is that not possible?
     
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    I did try. But while there are things that the current software for A to Z makes easier than the old software did, shifting posts between threads or forums is definitely not among them.

    Your best bet is to move it yourself: (a) go to the post that needs to move, (b) click "Edit", (c) copy the text from the edit window, (d) cancel "Edit", (e) locate and open the destination thread either from the Recent Posts window or by navigating to the ESL/ELL forum and rummaging it up, and (f) paste what you've copied into the new-post window there.

    Copying from the edit window is not strictly necessary for a URL as short as the one you posted, but it's good to be in the habit of doing so because forum software truncates long URLs for display, so "way_too_honking_many_letters_to_display_in_this_space.qqq" might become "way_too_honking...space.qqq"; the truncated link works as it is supposed to in the original post, but when one copies it from the regular forum page, what gets pasted is likely to be literally "way_too_honking...space.qqq", ellipsis and all, and even if it shows up red like a link it probably won't function as one.
     
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    I'm a Special Education major. In May 2019, I took originally the Reading and Writing back to back and ran out time. Previously, I received:
    • Reading subtest 80% =255
    • Writing subtest 54% = 208
    • Total score = 463 (Need 7 points to pass)
    Thursday (8/22/19) I took the VCLA Writing again. I'm praying I've passed this time. This version of test was a lot harder than I thought it would be. I guess it all comes down to my short answer questions and writing section. I have to pass this or I have to wait another semester to take my practicum class/student teaching which I need to graduate. So frustrating and nervous.
    • Writing subtest 60% = ?? (Don't have my scores yet and I'm so nervous.)
     
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    I just took my VCLA reading and writing. I got a raw score of 82% in reading and 68% in writing....any thoughts on if I passed?!?
     
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    Hello! New user here. I'm a potential career switcher and I just got back from the VCLA. I was curious what this group's thoughts on my passing might be.

    I got 85% on the Reading subtest.
    I got 80% on the Writing subtest.

    HOWEVER, I only had 20 minutes left by the time I got to the summary and persuasive essay; by this point I was panicked. I was able to bang out 150 words on the summary. I would say it was slightly less to very average.

    BUT, I was only able to crank out 200 words (it asked for 300 - 600) on the persuasive essay. It had three very small paragraphs and I tried to tie it up. I hit submit at about 7 seconds left. :)

    Anyway, just really curious what more experienced folks might have to say. As for me, I guess I wait 10 days while I swallow the "retake the written portion" pill. I guess I should have researched the test more and realized I was a slower reader. Should have done it in two parts.

    I'll make sure to report back with final scores.
     
  10. vickilyn

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    Gut feeling is that you will pass. You did yourself a solid with the reading score. It is going to create some breathing room, since it doesn't have to be 235 in each section, only 470 for the total. You followed with a very nice score on the multiple choice portion of the writing subtest, once again giving yourself more extra points to count on. Your actual writing might be less than stellar, but you won't need a super high score, when you look at the cushion your other scores have given you. No champagne yet, but in only 10 days you will have your email with the final tally, and I'm betting on a passing score.

    FYI, my son is a slow reader, and my only "must do" when he signed up to take the test was that I was adamant about breaking it into two days. He passed in a single try, but would never have been able to do that in a single day of testing. I'm guessing that your other scores will carry you to success, but if you do have to retest, it will only be the writing.

    Let us know how you did.
     
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    I can't thank you enough for your kind words and support. You'll get me through this trying 10 day wait. I have prepared myself for both scenarios. Will keep you in the loop!
     
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    Hoping that you have passed the test and are on to bigger and better things!
     
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    Thanks for thinking about me! I'm still waiting on the results. If they stick to the 10 business day agreement, I should know today or tomorrow by 10PM EST. Will definitely report back as soon as I hear from them; I'm chomping at the bit to know.

    In the meantime, I was able to pass the Praxis 5038 (ELA 6-12), which I wrote about on another thread. That was purely multiple choice, which was nice. I have my sights on the Technology Education Praxis next.
     
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    Hi again! My VCLA score report *just* came in. Right on the 10th day.

    Reading Subtest: 268
    Writing Subtest: 214
    Overall: 482 (PASS)

    So, you called it, vickilyn. The reading score saved me. Thanks again for all your help and reassurance.
     
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    Well done - you put in the work, and had the right skill sets. Best of luck in everything you are shooting for!
     
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    Hi, I am convinced that this test is CRAZYYYY!!! I have noticed that if I score a higher raw score my scaled score is lower. I dont know what else to do. I did score a 71% on the writing test. I am waiting for the scaled score to come in. Please HELPPPPPP
     
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    What score did you get on the reading? Since you sound frustrated, how many times have you taken the tests?
     
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    I did not take that one over yet. The highest I have received on the reading was a 222 raw score 64%. I had a raw score of 68% and score was only 221. I don't know what to do.
     
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    Several questions. Are you normally a good test taker? Are you a native English speaker? Have you used both versions of the practice tests to study from? When you take that practice tests, are you getting scores exceeding 80 on the reading test? I ask because using the practice reading tests can indicate where weaknesses are and that helps pinpoint problem areas.

    I am going to share a post I wrote about my son's experience with VCLA:
    My son and, by extension, I were very grateful to those who have posted on this forum. He took the exam in split format, over 2 days, which is highly recommended for a slow reader, for whatever reason. He took the reading test on a Saturday, used up almost all time, and earned 88%, which scaled to 286. He took the writing test the next day, and once again used all available time. The percentage was scored at 80%. He completed all writing assignments and essays. The scaled score for the writing was 244. Total score was 530.

    As he told me about the test, Teacher Groupie's post was highly relevant: Ah. Process of elimination is a great start; you just need to be a little more fine-grained in what you're eliminating. The correct answer is the one that comes closest to being fully true, even if one of its details is less specific than another answer. Pay attention to the details; if need be, use your scratch paper to match up details you're given in a passage with details suggested by a possible answer.

    In studying for the reading, my son used a system where you use the practice tests (there are 2), and after taking them completely a couple of times, start to concentrate on the questions you have missed, exclusively. Immediately score the shortened test, write out what you think went wrong when you miss it, research if needed, and then take the "missed" items again. Soon you should be able to get to virtually 100% correct. Most importantly, you spend a lot of time understanding your mistakes, learning exactly what the test is asking you to look for. It is a learning experience. Keep yourself honest and take the whole tests on occasions. My personal testing routine has been to do this in the evening. When finished, go directly to bed - no phone, no TV, no music. Your brain is a wonderful computer that continues to work as you sleep, forming neural pathways that make it easier to access the material later.

    My son has a vision problem that makes him a slow reader, so I knew that there would be no way to pass it in one super hard test session. When he signed up, we considered it money well spent to take the test in two sessions. He probably could have passed the reading in the combo scenario, but with a lower score. I am certain that he would not have passed the writing portion. He said he watched the time very closely as he was writing, and he finished with only 4 minutes left.

    I took the practice tests, to understand how the test was structured. I have multiple endorsements, including English, Science, Elem. Ed., and Social Studies, and have earned very high Praxis scores in all of my content exams, but I initially struggled with the VCLA. I believe I could pass it with time and serious study, but I am certain of one thing - it is a hard test to master, and it should be given serious consideration by anyone who needs to pass it to stay employed, such as qualified teachers from other states moving into Virginia. If you wait till the last minute, you are welcoming serious stress that could affect your score.

    Best of luck to those who have yet to take this exam.
     
  20. Petlover

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    Wow!! Thanks for sharing.... I will not give up on this test and I'm praying that I received a 235 on the writing test. As for the reading test my results are as follows
    1: Understand the meaning of words and phrases... +
    2. main idea +
    3. analyze the relationship of ideas +
    4 critical reasoning +++
    5. skills summazing outlining ect +++

    What tips can you offer for my weak areas?
     
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    Let's see if we can get @TeacherGroupie to take a look at what you just shared. @TeacherGroupie is the guru that we all turn to to understand those results from the read out. Since you have them available, @TeacherGroupie will be able to give some guidance. Be a little patient today - not sure we are in the same time zone, but I am glad that you haven't retaken the reading yet - maybe some help will help you yield some better results.
     
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    Thanks you :)
     
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    Sorry I'm late to the party.

    VCLA is a Pearson test; Pearson uses plus-mark performance indicators, on a scale from + to ++++, to indicate how many raw points a test taker earned in a given domain or test subarea. I'm fairly certain that + correlates to 25% or fewer of available points; that you've scored + in three out of five test areas is troubling. I'll also guess that it's the multiple choice questions that are giving you grief. And vickilyn is probably right that you're having trouble picking out the correct answer from the distractors (and, yes, "distractor" is what the people who make tests like this call the seductive answer choices that aren't the right answer).

    My first recommendation is that you work through LearningExpress's fine and affordable Reading Comprehension Success in 20 Minutes a Day, paying particular attention to the sections on main ideas and relationships of ideas. In your case, following up with the more logically rigorous Reasoning Skills Success in 20 Minutes a Day might be in order.
     
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    But so glad you came!
     
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    Just wanted to update the thread for new people.
    Took the test January 18. The print out I got was
    Reading Raw: 85%
    Writing Raw: 65%

    Got my Scores 10 days later.

    Reading Score: 264
    Writing Score: 230
    I guess my writing was pretty good? I got +++ in everything but
    Apply principles of sentence & paragraph construction
    Apply knowledge of mechanical conventions in standard English
    Improve ineffective writing by analyzing

    Although I dont know how I can do good in all the topics but have poor construction in writing. Whateves I passed. Never have to do this again, thank god.
     
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    Just took the writing again for the 2nd time. I scored lower this time than the 1st. First test had raw score of 78 (reading) and 80 (writing) I passed the writing with 235 but failed the writing.
    This time my raw score in writing is a 68%. I am freaking out. I was confident I was going to score much higher. I scored 235 on the reading on the first go round so I Literally need 235 on the writing to pass. I froze (again) when it came to the essays. Anyone come across this or have seen a miracle with a low raw score in writing but still pull off a 235 I know I have to wait the 10 days but it’s going to drive me nuts knowing this is my 2nd time taking it and waiting to see if I passed.
     
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    Hugs. Are you a perfectionist about your writing?
     
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    Thanks for the hug. I think so. I always got high scores on my college papers. I have a Master’s degree but these tests make me feel incompetent. I read and read and read again but when I went to write the essay, I couldn’t form one sentence.
     
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    Hey all! Just started my career switcher process by taking the VLCA today. Such a long test! It was far trickier than I anticipated.

    My Raw Scores I received today were as follows:
    Reading: 94%
    Writing: 82%

    I should be good to go right??

    Thanks!!
     

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