Useful Web sites for single subject math/science

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  1. adreamer

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    tell me more

    By the way, does the material have questions and answers? Are the questions sufficient or did you get questions elsewhere?

    By the way, did you pass?
     
  2. TeacherGroupie

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    Which materials, adreamer?
     
  3. Teacher2007

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    I passed both subtest I and II (haven't taken III) yet. I thought the schaums thing was a waste of time and money. I bought the study guides from the Orange County Department of Education and loved them. I was tired of looking at hundreds of websites that people posted. If you have a few weeks, definitely buy these guides. I purchased some stuff from online and it was a waste of money (even some of the suggested ones above).

    The guides had a "lesson" and notes and then tons of practice problems with full solutions.
     
  4. TeacherGroupie

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    Which goes to show, yet again, that not every resource works for every test taker. It always makes me sad when anyone interprets a bad experience with a given resource automatically as a negative reflection on the user. Not, I hasten to add, that that's the case here.
     
  5. jazzminjoy

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    One thing I did was frequent the used book stores. If something looked good and was inexpensive, I'd buy it. I'm the type of person who likes having lots of materials on hand to study from. If one text presented the material in an unclear or boring way, I'd look up that topic in another text. Or, even if something was well-presented, I'd view another source to see how it covered the topic and also to check for additional insights.

    I figure my accumulation of books and software will serve as a reference library when I teach.
     
  6. TeacherGroupie

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    You bet, jazzminjoy!
     
  7. adreamer

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    Orange County study material subset I

    I am trying to figure out if the Orange Country material is good enough, by itself, for studying for subset I?
     
  8. adreamer

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    orange county material for subset I

    So do you think the Orange county material is enough, if you cover all their questions? Are the questions on the same level as the real lest?

    Thanks
     
  9. TeacherGroupie

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    adreamer, I think you'll find that the answer varies depending on who you talk to - but in general people seem to like the OCDE stuff.
     
  10. Teacher2007

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    Yes, I thought it was a great study resource and I only had to look up a few things on the internet that I personally needed more detail on (but very FEW problems). Trust me, you'll hardly have time to get through all of the sample problems they give you. It really helped me know how to approach problems on the actual test. I felt very prepared.

    My other suggestion is to take only one test at a time. I used up all 5 hours on each subtest. I didn't feel rushed, I was able to feel confident about each problem. Others have done 2 at a time, but I wanted to be sure that I passed each time. Good luck. Get the OCDE books.
     
  11. adreamer

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    that is what I wanted to hear

    I am so happy you felt the material prepared you. By the way, did you have high level math calsses in college that might have helped a lot too, or do you think it was the Orange County material that did it for you?

    How many weeks of full time studying do you think you need for reviewing all of the Orange County questions? is one month enough?

    By the way, did you ever get to see innovationguy's questions? I am not sure if to get both or just one or the other.

    I too belive in taking one test at a time, I just took Geometry, and I took my time, but I am not 100% sure I passed. I did not leave enough time for the last 4 essays, three took longer than I expected.
    I hope the graders dish out partial credit generously.

    Thanks
     
  12. TeacherGroupie

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    Don't call those written answers "essays", because they're not - paragraphing, mechanics, introduction/conclusion, etc. are so not required.

    adreamer, if you look back through this thread and through other threads on CSET math (and on other states' single subject math exams, though we've had fewer posts on those), I think you'll find discussions of questions related to those you raise. I rather think that the amount of time (and effort) one should spend studying is independent of the specific resources.
     
  13. JayR

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    I carefully examined the topic list for Praxis II Math from the free ETS online study guide, and I compared it to the topic list from the $35 ETS Study Guide, and they are different. For example, the $35 ETS Study guide includes Abstract Algebra and Computer Science, but the free site does not. Does this make sense? Why would they do this?
     
  14. TeacherGroupie

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    It could depend on which Praxis II math exam you're taking.

    The Web site shows four Praxis II math tests, not counting the Teaching Foundations exam. I notice that the $35 ETS guide covers three of the four (the fourth is the middle school math exam). It could be that the particular Praxis II exam that you are taking is not one that requires abstract algebra and computer science.
     
  15. JayR

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    I have another Praxis II math (0061) question. Does anyone know how the number answered correctly relates to the final Praxis score? For example, how many correct answers give a score of 150? Is there a source for this?
     
  16. TeacherGroupie

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    With most teacher tests there is not a one-to-one correspondence between raw scores and scaled scores. There are several reasons for this. The biggest is probably that it's very, very hard to write test questions that are exactly equivalent in difficulty. To work around this, the algorithm that converts raw scores to scaled scores also includes "fudge factors" (so to speak) to correct for variation in difficulty; the intent is to have it be the case that each score of 150 will represent a comparable level of knowledge. In addition, many teacher tests contain non-scoring questions: questions that are being road-tested for future editions of the exam and that don't count against you now.
     
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    Orange County Department of Education Materials

    I used the OCDE prep materials for CSET Biology III. Here is my take on them...

    There is a lot of boiler plate in them: CSET subject matter requirements from NES, State Science Framework, general test taking strategies, sample tests from NES, AP tests from somewhere. Only a small fraction of the material actually addresses what you have to know on test day. That said, what is there is pretty much right on target, although some of it doesn't go to an adequate depth. I still had to supplement it with material from other sources, and still made my own outline and filled it in as needed. In short, not a great deal for the price, but useful.

    The materials also cover the biology part of CSET Science II and seem to be a bit more complete in this area.
     
  18. TeacherGroupie

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    There's an inevitable awkwardness here. Materials that do justice to everything that could be asked would have to be the size of... well, an undergraduate education, or at least the lower-division courses. But a set of documents that size is automatically pretty daunting... and it remains the case that that's passive learning and that constructing one's own test guide gets one closer to mastery of the material.
     
  19. Teacher2007

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    All I know is that I used the OCDE prep books for CSET Math I and II and passed. I hardly supplemented them at all. I wasted a lot of time looking at suggestions from all of these posts, and when I got down to it, the books prepared me enough to pass. There were tons of practice problems and worked out solutions. I cannot comment on science ones. As I always say - get off the internet and start studying!
     
  20. TeacherGroupie

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    And different approaches work for different people, and that's fine too.
     
  21. llchem

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    Teacher2007,
    I'm in the bay area also. Do you have study guides to sell?

    Contact me through my member contact.

    Thanks,
    llchem
     
  22. JayR

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    My undergraduate program omitted College Geometry, and I feel I am deficient in this subject. Does anyone know of a good, inexpensive, online College Geometry course for math majors? (Please don't send me to a high school level course.)
     
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    I haven't read through everyone's messages to this thread, but have you thought about looking up state certification test on the net? I did that to prepare for the TExES and I found several states that have study guides and practice test that help. New York's even has answers that tell why the answer is correct. I went to each state and printed them out and I'm studying them now. NY, Illinois, Mass, and Tx are just some of the states that you can go to online and look at their test for certification and click on the link for the preparation material.
     
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    practice test comparison

    I registered for the April 26th middle school math praxis exam. I am an elem ed teacher, 18 years out of college. I have been teaching jr high math at a private school and am moving back into the public sector next year. I spent the last two weeks going through every lesson in the Saxon Alg I textbook for review and am studying the different topics listed on the test at a glance site.
    My question is this. I purchased five tests from the praxismiddleschoolmath site and took two of them. I scored a 178 on the second one I took. Have any of you taken these practice test. How do they compare to scores on the actual test?
     
  25. TeacherGroupie

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    If you've been teaching the material that's being tested, you're probably in fine shape.
     
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    Hope prepared enough

    I hope I have prepared enough. I am tired of studying. I haven't studied this much in years. I have actually been dreaming about equations and proofs. lol
    I was just wondering if that website is legitimate. The tests seem authentic, but I wonder about how much to trust the scoring.
     
  27. TeacherGroupie

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    Probably close enough to be fairly reliable as to how much you should be worrying.
     
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    how much?

    What do you mean?
     
  29. TeacherGroupie

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    If the questions look authentic - by which I assume you mean that they seem to reflect the material that the TAAG doc says is being tested - then, though you probably won't get exactly 178, it's quite likely that you will pass.
     
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    thanks

    I will be holding my breath from April 26th till I call May 23rd to get my score. I will post it here. Thanks again.
     
  31. TeacherGroupie

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    Think of this as a teaching task that happens for some odd reason to involve a Scantron, wellinmysoul. And best of luck, though I don't think you'll need all that much.
     
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    I just bought the books that are mentioned in the study guide for Science when I did my research in the CSET website.

    http://www.cset.nesinc.com/

    To study for General Science 118: Earth Science by Tarbuck and Lutgens 10th edition WITH CD !!! This book has a website with additional quizzes and practice.

    http://www.prenhall.com

    (then choose the book title with the right edition.) and answer the quizzes after you read the book chapters.

    You can buy a used book with CD on eBay or Amazon. But be careful and choose wisely your vendor. A recommendation is WWW.BetterWorld.com (they have cheap books and are responsible and economical).

    Another book is Conceptual Physical Science by Hewitt, Suchocki, Hewitt (second edition) There is no CD for this book, but there is a link that you can find easily if you look for Hewitt Conceptual Physical Science on the web.

    To study for CSET General Science 119: Buy Biology by Campbell (sixth edition). It only cost me $6.00 on www.betterworld.com.

    Also, studying Conceptual Physical Science will help you out with CSET General Science 119 as well.

    Important: Read the questions and concepts in the guide for the California Science Academic Standards Grade 9-12, and the framework for each CSET test. For example, CSET 118: 8 multiple choice questions (Astronomy), 16 multiple choice questions (Earth Dynamics), Forces and Motion (does have a constructed question), so you can get an idea of what to expect on test.

    I hope this help... and Good Luck!
     
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    Thanks for posting, SOSME1972!
     
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    Good evening, All.

    After nearly 30 years as an engineer and computer systems hack, I hope to get back to teaching. That is, if I can pass the Praxis Math (0061). In my search for study aids and suggestions, I think I've found a few hucksters (the visually loud) and several voices that suggest that I simply re-read all of my college texts. This forum seems a bit more grounded --- Thanks.

    If anyone here has experience or knowledge of this test, I'd appreciate your impressions and recommendations for study materials.

    Thanks in advance....
     
  35. JayR

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    Hi. The ETS bulletin is pretty clear about the topics to study. I have always been a fan of the Schaums series, so I suggest the Schaums in College Algebra, Geom, Trig, and Calculus. Calculus on the exam is first semester only. A little matrix algebra and prob & stats too. Many people think the major publishers produce Praxis study material that is too easy. Jerry at www.praxisiimath.com has taken the opposite approach, and produces study material that some say is too hard, but I thought it helped me.
     
  36. TeacherGroupie

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    Wait, anadir. You're in Colorado, but you need Praxis? Last time I checked, Colorado's exams were the PLACE series, which are NES exams: see http://www.place.nesinc.com.
     
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    JayR, thanks for the Schaums recommendation and the praxisiimath.com looks worthwhile as well. And I have seen the ETS bulletin; It clearly states that I've been out of school for a long time.

    TeacherGroupie, Colorado accepts both PLACE and PRAXIS II in some cases. From www . cde . state . co . us / cdeprof / Licensure_alt1_faq . asp (sorry, as a new member, I cannot post URLs)
    Recently, Colorado started accepting PRAXIS II, in 5 content areas: Elementary Education (Test 10014), English (Test 10041), Mathematics (Test 10061), Science (Test 10435) and Social Studies (Test 10081).

    In conversation with a local school district official, I asked if Colorado preferred one test over the other. The recommendation was to use the Praxis if there was a need to apply in other states. I didn't feel that there was a preference expressed.

    Thanks for your help
     
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    Ah: facilitating transfers in, then. Thanks for the info.
     
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    Cset math prep

    Is there much memorization of formulas/theorems required for the test? Also, do some problems require a graphing calculator to solve? (I'm not to good with this calculator so I need to know if I should spend some time mastering its use before the test.)

    Thanks folks.
     
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    Yes to both.
     

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