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  1. swansong1

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    Have you talked to the people at the charter school in person and expressly shared your concerns...no contract, no salary, everything up in the air? Sometimes the more direct approach gets more done?
     
  2. giraffe326

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    Not in a few days. I did last week.
     
  3. catnfiddle

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    This may be the point that you would tell them you are not comfortable signing a contract until your questions are answered. Grrrr, here we were, all assured for you!
     
  4. LouiseB

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    I agree with catnfiddle especially if you are to start this week. It seems to me that if you don't have a contract you very well may not get paid!
     
  5. Tasha

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    I agree. You need more info before you just show up!
     
  6. giraffe326

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    The other teacher that was verbally offered a position at my (potentially) new school said she was in there today bringing things in and they guy said it would be at least $35,000. She's fresh out of college. Hopefully, with my experience, I will be earning more than that. But, if I have to, I can work for $35K. Heck, it is a raise compared to my current school! It just comes with extra hours, too... The cost of living in less here, but $35K is a little low for teachers.
     
  7. AdamnJakesMommy

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    As an NC teacher, I so know your pain! I wish I was making 35K a year, lol!!!
     
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    When I was interviewing several years ago 35K was the starting salary at a lot of charters that I was interviewing at. Some paid more, some paid less. Some gave credit for previous years of teaching experience, some did not. Same for a master's degree.
     
  9. giraffe326

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    The offer came in at $36,600. I had hoped for better, but feared worse. Benefits will run me an extra $120 a month. No experience pay, which stinks.
    It does state the contract can be broken at any time, by either party with no notice required. So if I receive a better offer I can it...
     
  10. MsMar

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    Sorry to hear it's not as high as you had hoped, but glad it's livable in case something else doesn't come through. Good luck with both of your interviews tomorrow!
     
  11. teacherwithlove

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    Bummer. I was hoping for at least 40k for you since you have experience. I say just keep going to other interviews... I hope another job opens up! :) good luck!
     
  12. ECE ABC

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    So good that you know now.

    It's definitely a livable income :)
     
  13. catnfiddle

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    It's more than I'm currently making after five years at my charter! However, I get a lot of extra duty stipends. You might get those chances as well!
     
  14. BioAngel

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    I'm so happy to hear you were offered a position :thumb: It's a shame they won't give you more for experience- I was making more than that my first year teaching (at a private school) but I live in NJ (so it costs a lot more to live here).
     
  15. leighbball

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    I'm so glad they finally have you a salary. I know my district doesn't always give years of experience either. Hugs!
     
  16. giraffe326

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    So I had 2 interviews today.
    First one- was a demo lesson for the Title I position. It was way better than my last demo lesson, but their is still room for improvement. I don't expect an offer- just a feeling. (R)

    Second interview- amazing! It was a bit 'speed dating' style. 6 candidates in a room, you interviewed with 2 different people. I started with the lady in charge of that room- she is the elementary administrator. She let the time go over because she wanted to keep talking with me! She mentioned she was excited a few times!! The second lady went well, too, but not quite as well as the first. (T)
     
  17. giraffe326

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    Before my second interview happened, the head HR guy talked to us all as a group- it was quite refreshing! He told us that they had thousands of applicants and they have 20 elementary positions. It sounds like a lot, but they are a large district- 1500 teachers. They brought in 80 to interview. If they do not feel you fit, you will not hear from them. He said it was too much to keep up with since they have another 100 interviews for secondary. If they like you, you could hear from them as early as next week. Or it could be weeks. If you get an offer elsewhere, take it- don't risk it. If they don't find 20 teachers in the 80, they will bring in more people for more screening interviews.
    I liked the honest approach!
     
  18. giraffe326

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    Recap:
    A- eliminated
    B- eliminated
    C- awaiting official openings- in the hiring pool- large, top rated school that pays REALLY well. 45 minutes.
    D- eliminated
    E- eliminated
    F- pending- Charter. 60 minutes. Start-up. 2nd grade.
    G- pending- Friend's school. Charter. 80 minutes.
    H- eliminated
    I- eliminated
    J- eliminated
    K- eliminated
    L- eliminated
    M- eliminated
    N- eliminated
    O- I canceled
    P- job offer- verbal acceptance- 3rd grade- new urban STEM charter-
    Q-I canceled
    R- pending- 90 minutes away- Title I Math Specialist Position
    S-pending- online charter
    T- pending- large public district- 60 minutes
    U- passed on interview
     
  19. giraffe326

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    I did get my contract- it says I can terminate it without notice. I really want to be in a public school, so I will begin my job tomorrow, and if something comes up, I will worry about it then.
     
  20. thirdgradebuzz

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    I don't want to start a new thread to ask this, and I don't want to hijack too much, but giraffe, have you gotten most of your rejections via phone or letter/email?

    I ask because I interviewed for a position last week and was told I'd know by early this week. When I hadn't heard by Tuesday afternoon, I honestly figured it was a no. But she called my cell phone this evening (a little after 7 p.m.) but I had it on silent and didn't get the call. Her voicemail said that she would call me back in the morning. So, until then, I'm just stuck in limbo wondering if she would call to reject me or if maybe it's an offer. ;)
     
  21. teacherwithlove

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    Was this one for a charter or for a public school? I'm sure the lady loved you and hopefully something comes from it! :)
     
  22. teacherwithlove

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    Ohhh! I'm hoping it's an offer!!!
     
  23. giraffe326

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    It is pretty split. Some I've only gotten an automated email saying the position has been filled.

    The early interview I had today (R) said they'd contact me that night (after the first interview). It was a week! :rolleyes: I actually didn't pick it up because I thought it was a rejection. She asked me to call her back- I was mad because I thought I had to call to get rejected! But I got invited back in! Don't give up hope!!
     
  24. giraffe326

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    A very large public district.
     
  25. giraffe326

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    I forgot- there is a V, but I passed. It is another brand new charter in the same city as my offer. It is in an even worse area, so I'll pass!

    Recap:
    A- eliminated
    B- eliminated
    C- awaiting official openings- in the hiring pool- large, top rated school that pays REALLY well. 45 minutes.
    D- eliminated
    E- eliminated
    F- pending- Charter. 60 minutes. Start-up. 2nd grade.
    G- pending- Friend's school. Charter. 80 minutes.
    H- eliminated
    I- eliminated
    J- eliminated
    K- eliminated
    L- eliminated
    M- eliminated
    N- eliminated
    O- I canceled
    P- job offer- verbal acceptance- 3rd grade- new urban STEM charter-
    Q-I canceled
    R- pending- 90 minutes away- Title I Math Specialist Position
    S-pending- online charter
    T- pending- large public district- 60 minutes
    U- passed on interview
    V- passed on interview
     
  26. giraffe326

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    I for got- the Executive Director for Human Resources that spoke with us also went in a little bit into the selection process. He said something like "We know some of the candidates- guest teachers, student teachers, etc... Some people told us to interview you. And a few of you had something on your resume that really stood out."

    I'm very pleased to be in the last category :D While it is the least helpful in gaining employment, it means a whole lot more to get an interview with all of the nepotism!
     
  27. giraffe326

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    I actually just sent him a thank you email. He didn't interview anyone, but I appreciated his straight-forward approach. This is what I wrote:
    Mr.....
    I wanted to thank you for the opportunity to interview today! I really wanted to thank you for all of the information you provided prior to the interview- it was refreshing to be told exactly how it is as opposed to false promises. I can't speak for everyone, but I appreciated it.
    Best of luck with your decisions,
    Giraffe
     
  28. catnfiddle

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    Well spoken.
     
  29. FarFromHome

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    How was your first day?
     
  30. giraffe326

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    Alright- thanks for asking!

    Some things made me feel a lot more comfortable. Some things did not- hours will be 8-5:15 everyday, 30 minute duty free lunch. That is it- the rest of the kids day (8:30-4) is 100% with kids.
    Right now there are Tier I and Tier II teachers- Tier I will all start school August 5th (I am one of them). Tier II will be called in as enrollment increases.
    Another charter school in the city lost its charter at the end of the year. 3 of the new teachers worked there, so they knew each other. The old school has given us almost everything- an entire library, every class has a SMART board and a brand new kidney table, barely used DRA kits, plus a whole big room full of miscellaneous supplies.
     
  31. giraffe326

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    I just emailed the staff at my old school- I'm so sad I can't say goodbye in person. :(

    (New P is not happy that I am missing tomorrow to move.)
     
  32. catnfiddle

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    New P can deal with it in order to have the pleasure of your company for the rest of the year. Glad to hear about the windfall, although it was at the expense of another charter. Hoping yours fares much better.
     
  33. acl1974

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    I hope you find something in a public school. I'm sure it's a relief to know that you have a job at this point, but if something better comes along I say take it since your contract allows you to resign at any time.
    Good LUCK!!!
     
  34. MsMar

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    You wouldn't have had to miss a day of work if they had gotten their act together more quickly with a contract!

    Good luck packing everything up and with the move.
     
  35. ECE ABC

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    WOW! You are going to be busy miss...8 to 5:30! I didn't realize some schools/states had longer days. Our district in CT has teachers work 8:15 to 3:30, unless they have meetings of course, kids go 8:30 to 3:15!

    I am sure you will use your weekends to relax and rejuvenate. Please keep us posted on your first days at your new school :D
     
  36. giraffe326

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    Wow. I've just had the WORST 3 days of my life!!!!!!!!!
    My dad and I left for NC on Friday morning. I had reserved a moving truck with Budget. (When I move to NC I used a trailer and when I got to the closest UHAUL with one in stock- 2 hours away- they had accidentally rented it out. It was a nightmare.) Budget called me at 4:30 pm to tell me that their system had a glitch and they don't have a truck for me. IN THE ENTIRE STATE. I had them check Virginia (we were driving through)- nope. I was now hysterical. They said they couldn't do anything for me.
    I called Penske- they had 1 that would be $1400 (Budget was $350). I couldn't afford that, so I passed. UHAUL had one 2 hours away, but I would go over in mileage and have a $500 fee on top of the $500 rental.

    I called Budget back and threw a major fit. Well, I was crying hysterically more than yelling. They passed it on to their supervisor who was supposed to call me back in 24 hours. (It has been over 48 and no phone call!)

    Later that night, I had an epiphany. If I could find a UHAUL in South Carolina, I wouldn't go over in mileage! Sure enough- they had one. It was an hour and a half away, but it wouldn't be there until 5pm!!!

    On Saturday, it was pouring down rain. My yard was flooded. We packed everything up and went to get the UHAUL. I found a moving company that would help load the truck. Due to the extra cost in the UHAUL, I could only afford 2 hours. My dad and I finished. We called it a night at 1PM.

    On Sunday, we continued to load. Then we had to clean the entire house. It took 3 more hours. We drove back, which was not fun for either of us. VERY stressful!!

    Budget will be hearing from me tomorrow. The person I talked to admitted that they will pay an amount when you have to go to another company- not sure how much. I will be demanding this. I want at least $400 for the difference PLUS the gas!!!

    I'm SOOOOOOOOOOO glad this is over.
     
  37. Mrs.Giggles

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    I'm so sorry that you had to deal with all of that. I really hope things start turning around for you very soon. Ugh...hugs for you!!! :hugs:
     
  38. Jem

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    I'm so sorry, Giraffe! What a nightmare. Did you ever get your contract?
     
  39. MrsC

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    So sorry, giraffe. What a nightmare!
     
  40. Pisces_Fish

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    Budget did this to me, too. It was HORRIBLE! I had to move a day late and I was so stressed out. I can't fathom what you just went through :dizzy: - my move was within NC and just a mere hour away. I'm so glad you made it!
     

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