Ugh, Don't Say That!

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  1. pwhatley

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    Actually, you forgot something, Dave. It should be:
    shoulda
    woulda
    coulda
    DID!
     
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    What about "Twunny?" I can't stand that one.
    And a sub I worked with last year (the teacher was on maternity leave... it was a loooong 2 months...) kept saying "Sigzdy." When the kids do it, I hate it but they're little and can learn from my shining example:angel: but every time I heard this teacher say it I felt ill. "Fivdy" is another least favorite, but it's not as drastic a mispronunciation as "Sigzdy."

    I once heard someone rationalize this by saying that otherwise people will get confused and not know whether you're saying "fifteen" or "fifty," for example. I happen to be hearing impaired so I can sympathize with this dilemma, but imho many more problems would be solved by just speaking distinctly!
     
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    But isn't it more like this?
    shoulda
    woulda
    coulda
    dint
     
  4. Master Pre-K

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    well, I guess "fidy sense" (50 cents) needs a new name...since he is gonna retire anyways. I won't miss him!
     
  5. Master Pre-K

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    I don't mean to be rude

    Ok, where are we going with that one?

    I just got it in a email...so naturally I didn't read anything else

    YES you do, if you're starting your sentence off like that!
     
  6. Master Pre-K

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    no TG...you need practice...

    "OH no you dit- ent!"

    It is hyphenated...

    Like Ash-shaley (Ashley)
    and Tif- fanie (Tiffany)
     
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    There is no letter in the English language to express what this sounds like, but I will try:

    Buh-in (- = little catch in throat)
    Manhah-in
    I can't think of anything else right now, but the "t" sometimes appears to be a lost art.
     
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    (with ponderously professorial dignity)
    The form dint (di' + n't) is also attested in some varieties, especially before a stressed main verb: "She said I dint SAY that right."
     
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    too much work to say...a complete word, a complete sound...or a complete department!

    for years...I noticed that L.A. (lost sandgeles) only spoke in acronyms...

    AQMD air quality managment dept
    DWP department of water and power
    CHP calif highway police
    FTB franchise tax board..state taxes

    and the dreaded..

    DMV dept of motor vehicles! the endless line for DL and IDs and anything to do with getting around.. no getting around it!
     
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    El Lay, was that?
     
  11. pwhatley

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    Around here, a dint is a decorative addition to a car, particularly in the front quarter panels. :angel:
     
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    Aaarrrggghhh! My daughter went through a phase when she thought that was a cute way to talk! Personally, I think it sounds stupid!
     
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    I have serious concerns about a whole mess of people who wants me to interview tomorrow night! Can't nobody up in there talk straight!

    I see you done finished college, and you hafta to have a degree right? Yes. And yous got yo 04 (the coveted teacher credential that every day care wants), and that's all that counts. You should come on in hur tomorrow, 'cause the policy comeddy will meet on Fried day..and then they don'ts meet again til next monf.

    I think I will keep my Friday appointment (and pray somebody else will call before then!) thank you.
     
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    For some strange reason, many of the people here have a problem with the ending s sound. For instance, $.50 is pronounced fidy cent. My coodinating teacher does it, too -- in front of the students! The other day, she even wrote a word that should have had an ending s on the overhead projector! Here is what she wrote: Sometime the weather forecast is wrong. Of course, our morning news show had a ticker tape running along the bottom of it this morning that said something about LSU being BEATED! I have come to the conclusion that one of the strongest influences kids today have is the boob tube. Too bad we can't have GOOD GRAMMAR, MORALS, and COURTESY modeled on the tube!
     
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    The sound is a glottal stop: you make it by sort of squeezing your vocal folds together. It's the sound (in addition to intonation) by which we distinguish "uh-huh" from "uh-uh". It's the only phoneme of English that isn't written. And it's the sound that's transcribed in Semitic languages (Hebrew, Arabic, etc.) and in languages of the Pacific (Hawai'ian) with an apostrophe.
     
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    A few more of my cooperating teacher's "pronounciations" (please believe me, as a person, I love her -- she's also a great teacher, except for her words!):

    jest for just -- and she couldn't figure out why the kids were misspelling it on the test!

    Jamarseeeaa instead of Jamarea -- the kid's actual name

    I have been called Mrs. everynamethatbeginswithaW, but rarely am I called Mrs. Whatley!

    apossofee for apostrophe
     
  17. Master Pre-K

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    this too shall pass PW...

    correct the kids
    ignore the adults
     
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    which is exactly why I would like to teach college some day! Nobody would enter a classroom without passing my test...a test of American English.

    After 5 tries, anyone can pass the Basic Skills test and the Teacher Aide/Paraprofessional/paraeducator test. But...can you read it out loud and pronounce the words correctly???

    that is the question!

    since you are a student teacher, it is best to let sleeping dogs lie (lay?)

    they already know what they are dealing with. Hopefully, they will hire you...and then you can come in and kick butt!

    for now..cringe..and correct students..
    not adults...
    they won't understand nor appreciate it(you)

    btw...a spanish-speaking worker asked me to be his tutor, and he would bring along a few friends. $15 an hour x 4 = $60..not bad...
    should I consider it???
     
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    I would. If it were just me here (and not my hubby & the animals), $60 would cover gasoline AND groceries! Well, maybe not the wine....
     
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    ok, I'll toss it around..and get back 2 you
     
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    You story reminded me of something. English wasn't my first language. I started to learn english when I went to kindergarten, but was always a bit behind my peers because of my language barrier. My mom is also hearing impaired. SO, because of these two things, I have thick accent. I once had a doctor say that I have a deaf person's accent. No one else ever said that to me. They just ask me where I am from.

    Anyways, because of this accent, I have a hard time saying certain words correctly. My kinder kids never said anything about it, but now that I'm teaching fifth, they let me know!!!! :D They already made fun of how I say computer. Giving oral spelling test is SO hard!!!! I have to say the words slowly and clearly as possible. I also practice saying some of them ahead of time. I'm so embarrassed, but I don't know how else to get rid of this accent.
     
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    Have you told your fifth graders about your background? I think that most of them would find it fascinating! You might also ask them to "help" you with your accent/pronunciation -- making it a responsibility instead of a joke. I don't know how you feel about such things, but these are just thoughts off the top of my head. My cooperating teacher and I laugh about her cultural pronunciations (at her instigation) -- our latest joke is that she is showing how to teach, and I am bringing her into the 21st century (computers).
     
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    oh..like one of the guys in the bud light commerical??

    in new york..we say..HEY...gimme a budlight, you got a problem?
    in chicago we say...gimme a bud light already!
    in l.a. we say...give me a bud light Homes!

    i have been told I have the nasal chicago accent

    like bugs bunny, I guess

    we all have an accent peachy

    NOBODY is from 'round here! we all came from somewhere...
     

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