This is SUCH a frustrating thing to keep hearing

Discussion in 'General Education' started by DamienJasper, Aug 3, 2020.

  1. DamienJasper

    DamienJasper Companion

    Aug 26, 2008
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    Aug 3, 2020

    I live in Idaho, a pretty hard right state. I guess there was a little hard-core, right wing, libertarian type rally in the park, literally right across from where I live. Attendance was about 100 according to the news reports. I was home all day that day with a really bad caffeine withdrawal headache and I didn't hear anything. In any case, our own Lt. Governor was there (turns out her and Gov. Brad Little have a really awful relationship based around the fact that she doesn't think he's Right-Wing enough). I guess the tagline for the whole thing was "Freedom is the Cure!". Basically one of those anti-mask, open-everything-up, our-freedoms-are-being-taken-away type deals. But I guess one of their primary targets was, yep, public schools. One of the speakers had that line that is just getting under my skin so much

    "I don't care if the kids ever go back to school because they're taught that capitalism is bad and America is evil". That's nearly verbatim.

    Not to mention our own president said something along those lines at his 4th of July speech at Mt. Rushmore. "Your children are taught to hate America!".

    Now, I'm just entering my third year of teaching, but I'm kind of an old rookie. Maybe I've only noticed it because I'm now in the teaching bubble. But WTF? Is this a new-ish line or has it been going on for years? And again; WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? What is the this ferocious Anti-American, pro socialist agenda in schools that they're talking about?

    And I wish I didn't find it so frustrating, but it is just SO no true!

    Anything to add, experienced folks?
  3. readingrules12

    readingrules12 Aficionado

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    Hate and ignorance has been around for centuries. I'd rather listen to a blender all day then that kind of speech. Find some good music to listen to and stay away from news commentary... with news just get the facts and get out.
  4. gr3teacher

    gr3teacher Phenom

    Sep 13, 2013
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    Aug 3, 2020

    When somebody says [redacted] stuff like that, they're just being a real-life troll. They want to rile you up. That's their entire goal. I won't tell you that if you ignore them they'll go away, but if you ignore them, you at least won't be contributing to their trolling.
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  5. TeacherNY

    TeacherNY Maven

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    Aug 4, 2020

    I don't pay attention to any of that stuff. I know I'm not teaching my students to hate America so that's all I'm concerned about. Just step away from the news and everything else right now. You will be less stressed out.
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  6. CaliforniaRPCV

    CaliforniaRPCV Comrade

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    Aug 4, 2020

    I think the source of this is teaching critical thinking, which is kind of antithetical to the compliance required within many families.
  7. waterfall

    waterfall Virtuoso

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    That's not a new thing at all. Many years ago, a large district in my area actually got rid of their AP US History and Government classes because the curriculum was "full of liberal indoctrination." Students organized protests and walkouts. Some media reported that these were actually organized by the union and that the students were being used as "pawns." They interviewed the student leaders who spoke very eloquently. They said they had no involvement with the union and found it offensive that some people didn't believe they could organize the events themselves. These people said, "Oh, poor kids- so brainwashed by the union leaders." Some people will really believe anything.

    It worked out in the end. Not only did they get the classes back, but after all of the fuss several board members lost a recall election.
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  8. Aug 11, 2020

    It often times seems to be that the loudest people aren't always the ones with the most backing their points. I agree with a comment above saying that a main goal of stuff like this is to rile up those around them - to start an argument. You know in your heart that you are teaching your students the best you know how to and the best content you know to teach them. That will be good enough for some, and never good enough for others. There are too many ideologies in this world to have public education geared towards them all. We just have to teach our kids to think critically, to research, and to make informed decisions.

    We have had this issue with a school board member in the past - they were voted in a new term despite this but are often dismissed by most people anyway. There will always be on in the flock.
  9. vickilyn

    vickilyn Multitudinous

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    Aug 12, 2020

    Just a head's up that we stay out of the political realm on these forums. Either the discussion creates a fire-storm and rages out of control that the the moderators are tasked with cleaning up, which generally closes the thread, hopefully before it becomes outlandish, and/or petty OR more experienced members recognize the tendency for .such threads to be headed towards necessary corrections, and closure of the thread, so they stop adding more posts to the thread sooner rather than later. Use of volatile language seems to intensify quickly, which is, indeed, fuel to the flames, and then they tend to go completely off-track, but hey, that may be an oxymoron since many times the treads were seldom comfortably riding the rails, smooth as silk without a care in the world from the get-go.

    My one observation has been that some people speak nonsense because they think ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ (yeah, you can fill in the blank in your head, because the original speaker was full of hot air to start with!)
    You may never know for certain what they think, because they just parrot something that they have heard or seen on social media. Election years are fodder to fuel the flames, the gibberish becomes even less coherent, and headaches become more common. Old cookie or rookie doesn't matter - it helps to zone out and do your only reply with the ballot you will cast.

    Prayers for your sanity - I know you didn't ask for them, but simply consider this an "off label" use - "What have you got to lose?"

  10. Tyler B.

    Tyler B. Groupie

    Feb 21, 2012
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    Aug 14, 2020

    “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless.
    Not to speak is to speak.
    Not to act is to act.”
    ― Dietrich Bonhoeffer

    I think we should speak up and not ignore such talk.

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