Think of me tomorrow

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  1. becky

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    Tomorrow I go for all day Girl Scout training. I'm nervous! This fall, I will lead a troop of homeschooled 4th and 5th grade girls.

    I've posted before about Jeannie's Brownie leader and my problems with her. Well, there came two straws that broke the camel's back and pushed me to start my own troop. First, Jeannie missed a meeting and the leader refused to tell me what she needed to make up. At that meeting, an activity was planned. Of course, I knew nothing about it. The leader finally told me about it- when she was short on help for it!!:mad: I decided right then and there this was Jeannie's last year in that troop.
    Second, the leader announced she was leaving and asked if any of us moms would take over. She didn't know I already had a meeting scheduled with the GS rep to get info on becoming a leader. I emailed her the next morning and told her of my meeting and that I was interested. She emails back and tells me no thanks, that the co-leader's daughter is taking over. Even as she leaves, she sticks it to me. I hope I never see her again in life after the meetings end.

    I hope to get alot from this training tomorrow. My head overflows with all the stuff I've read in the leader guide!:dizzy:
     
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  3. SwOcean Gal

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    That is so sad that something like that happens in an organization that is supposed to be so empowering and stand for a lot of good. I wish you the best of luck! I bet you will make your daughters experience so much better. I think it is so fabulous what you are doing! It is just great! I wish I had a troop leader as dedicated and desirous of letting the kids have a great time, like I have no doubt you will after all of this nonsense! I think you will do great! Best wishes! Sending lots of prayers your way! I have been following your drama and ugh it is awful, but I am glad you are turning it around!
     
  4. MissJennifer

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    Have a great time! You will love being a GS leader! I co-lead a Daisy troop - and LOVE it! (I was a girl scout from 1st grade - 12th grade growing up - and it is some of my BEST memories!!)
     
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    Good luck with the training!
     
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    I think its is a great move! Good luck!
     
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    You'll be great as a GS leader :) You'll love the training and being around other enthusiac Girl Scout leaders. I loved being a leader and really hated when my girls quit scouts.

    Have fun and enjoy the weekend :)
     
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    Good for you.
     
  9. RainStorm

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    Becky,
    I was a girl scout leader for 12 years! I've had Daisys, Brownies, Juniors, Cadettes and Seniors (the whole range.) One year, I had 6 different troups! (Don't ask me why -- I was deranged!!!)

    We've done everything from camping, rock climbing, white-water rafting, make-up and modeling parties, to running a girls' program at a homeless shelter. When the girls got to be Seniors, their favorite thing was meeting at tea houses and restaurants. It made them feel so grown up, and we had a blast. I had several girls from Brownies through Seniors (I only did Daisys one year, and I just did that to fill in for someone, so I never worked with those girls again after that year.)

    My "girls" have all graduated. Most went on to college. Many got master's degrees. Some have traveled all over Europe. A couple are married, and one is expecting soon!

    It can be a great ride.

    The only advice I'd offer is this:

    --make sure you recruit an assistant leader who shares your vision. I had the same assistant leader the whole time, and we had the best time. She had the skills I lacked -- she would call girls who missed meetings and tell them what was going on (I'd tell them if they missed a meeting, they better call another girl in the troop to find out what they missed...) she would call to make sure everyone had a ride to camp, and would drive those who didn't. she'd round up sleeping bags for the girls who didn't have one, etc. I on the other hand was the organizer. I kept us on a schedule. We were opposites, and we both had what the other lacked. We made a great team.

    --when you decide on things, don't let others talk you out of it, or try to change things to meet their schedule. Get used to saying, "I'm sorry your daughter has XXXX on Friday night, but that is when we are having the sleep over. I'm sure she'll make the next one." Because the truth is, no matter how many times you move it, there will still be someone who can't make it. Don't drive yourself nuts. Offer it, and if they can come, they come. One year, we alternated doing sleep overs on Friday and Saturday night. The girls who went to church hated Saturday night sleep overs because they had church Sunday morning, but we also had Jewish girls, and if we only had them on Friday night, they could never come. So we alternated.

    Have fun, fun, fun! Those were some of the best years of my life!!!
     
  10. becky

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    I'm extremely nervous. To make it more awkward, the young girl who's taking over the current troop will be there.

    I'm so glad and relieved to be getting done with the crap from that leader and her co leaders. Wednesday night at the meeting, I was reading the many papers the leader had put out for parents. The one co leader standing there gathered her stuff and moved to another table. Once it's all over, I hope one of them has the ***** to tell me what I ever did- cause I do not know.
     
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    hmmm...if I'm not mistaken you can file a complaint of some sort just for the sake of doing so. It may not get you anywhere, but perhaps it will raise some eyebrows.
    Girls Scouts, Brownies....they are supposed to have a positive impact on young girls.

    I'm sure you're going to enjoy this, Becky...your heart is already in it. :)
    oh; and I love Rainstorm's advice! :thumb:
     
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    I confessed all the issues to our membership specialist, and she wouldn't comment beyond saying she was sorry.:rolleyes: I wasn't expecting much, though.
     
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    Well, I had my training.
    It's so much to remember, and so many hoops to jump through! You about can't look at the girls without filling out a form to do so!
     
  14. Major

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    Good luck Becky........:)
     
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    You have to fill out a form to wish me good luck, Major!;)
     
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    :lol:
     
  17. RainStorm

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    Ah Becky,
    I forgot to mention all the paperwork. And the training...

    You have to take a separate training to do anything.....

    You have to take a training to be a leader, plus a training for each group level. You have to take a training to sell cookies. You have to take a several-days-long training to take the girls camping. You have to take safety training.

    You can't take the girls swimming without two trained adults, one of whom must be a certified lifeguard and one of whom must be Red Cross CPR trained -- and even then all the girls have to stay in the shallow end of the pool unless they are each individually "swim tested" by the life guard (and none of the other girls can be in the pool while this testing take place, so there goes most of your swimming time right there...) You can't go canoeing without a certified canoe instructor (I was one, and boy was I popular!), AND a certified life guard. THey even want you to have an adult "watcher" on the dock who is CPR trained.

    You can't take a nature walk without "Low impact" training. You can't do a fund raiser without fund raising training...

    and the list goes on, and on, and on.....

    Oh, and there are other fun rules, as I recall.

    If adults go with you on the camping trip, the female adults must sleep in one tent, the male adults in another. (No married couples sharing tents!!!!) The "father" tent has to be certain number of feet away from the girls tent, as I recall. No wood on those camp fires, please use coal. If you do have a bon fire, make it only one night, and use as little wood as possible. Bring the wood with you -- don't collect it on site.

    You must have a certain number of adults present at all times based on the number of children present...

    You can't let girls travel in other parents cars unless you have written proof of insurance. You can't travel more than so many miles (it used to be 100 miles) from your service unit without buying special insurance for every single girl, and filling out special request forms for each girl and adult, and it takes months to process!! (We lived just over 100 miles from Washington DC, so no visiting the US captial for us!!!!!)

    I'm sure they've come up with all kinds of new ones since I was a leader.

    I forgot my two best piece of advice:

    --when a "well meaning" parent suggests something (which inevitably will be a ton of work for you, like building a solar oven, which is a nightmare, or making camp cookstoves, which requires cutting metal with tin snips and melting wax into wood shavings...) smile nicely and say "What a great idea! Here's my calendar. What day shall I put you down to come do that?"

    Boy does that shut them up quickly!!!!!

    --If you meet at a location other than your home (which is highly recommended by the GS -- they think it is safer to meet in a community center, church, or school) let all the parents know right up front that if they are late picking their child up, you won't be there. There child will be fine, she'll be with you (or some other designated person -- in my case, it was with my assistant leader) and the parents would have to figure out where I was and find me. {This was before cell phones, so it was really useful then.} If I was on my way to the grocery store after a meeting, that's where I'd go. If you let them, people will be late all the time. THey don't mind wasting your time at all -- unless you make it really inconvenient for them.
     
  18. Major

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    Becky, do you have to fill out a form to be the official "smores" taster???:p:p

    About two weeks ago I was with a girl scout troop on an outing. (I'm a friend of the troop leader... or whatever she is called). We made tons of "smores." The girls actually taught the Major how to make them.:lol::lol:

    Anyway, send the form and I will fill it out.:p

    Major.......:)
     
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    Good luck Becky, don't let all the forms intimidate you, make copies of everything this year to save for the next year.

    I was a Brownie leader for three years and it was one of the best experiences I had with my daughter and her friends. She loved it and all the girls benefited from it. The girls to this day say they are "kindred spirits" and they're twenty-five now and they're part mine still. I also made life-long friends with some of the mothers too.

    I had an incredible assistant who was a K teacher, I taught 5th grade at the time. We really worked well together, I had another parent who wanted to be in charge of the cookie sales, you bet I let her.
     
  20. RainStorm

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    I had the same "cookie dad" for 5 years! Never, ever, ever try to be the cookie mom and the troop leader! (Did it once, swore I'd never sell cookies again!!!! Thank goodness my "cookie dad" came along and saved me from myself!)

    Let another parent do that, or simply don't sell cookies. (If those are the options, some parent will come forward.)

    Hoot Owl is right about making copies -- often you can resubmit the same form next year (you might have to white-out one little thing) and .... if your council is like most, all your paper work passes through a dozen hands (some of them volunteers) and can get lost at any junction. You need those copies when they come to you months later and say they never got it.
     
  21. becky

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    There's actually a CD of forms now! I plan to request one.

    Yep- I plan to tell parents I need all kinds of help. I can't even hold meetings by myself, so I've got to have a co leader. I don't know how it's all going to play out. These will be homeschool families with so much to do already, and I don't know how the moms would fit in training.
     

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