The Gifted Program in Early Childhood

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  1. MissFrizzle

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    so he is very intelligent! I think perhaps, as you stated, next year might be the best choice. I don't really know.
     
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    It is funny you asked that question. I am smiling to myself right now.

    I was an introvert up until my second to last years of obtaining my bachelors in college.
     
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    Sorry, Frizz, I wasn't clear: the question was for EBKLYN. As is this one: EBKLYN, are you a native speaker of English?

    As to standardized testing, if by that you mean that being tested blows out the spark, I think that's unlikely - many gifted kids, unless they decide to blow off the test altogether, will blow it out of the water because they're good at making connections and inferring answers they don't actually know cold, and a good many of them regard tests not as awful ordeals to be endured but as puzzles to be cracked and conquered.

    (Which, by the way, is a very important attitude for test taking.)

    Most gifted kids lose the spark through becoming aware that they don't fit, that they're inconvenient, that anyone else in the classroom has more right to the teacher's time and attention than they do, that it's largely up to them to educate themselves - and there, I suppose, standardized testing could be a factor because it means the classroom focus is on the tested skills and on the kids who aren't up to snuff in them - though, believe me, that was an issue well before Dubya was of Cub Scout age.
     
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    I guess I was thinking in terms of a teacher having less time to expand on topics of interest because of time constraints, and testing pressure, but you are correct, gifted kids look at testing in a much healthier way.... :D
     
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    MissFrizzle,

    Thanks for the support.
     
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    Oho - kind of lived in your own world, did you?

    A T-shirt I've admired says, "I live in my own little world - but that's all right: they like me here." That is perhaps the classic gifted-and-talented tee...
     
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    Of course, you must be a good person you live and teach in NY:D
     
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    Mostly, Frizz, it's that we're basically still toddlers in that we can look at objects or ideas and imagine uses for them that nobody else would've thought of... and, yes, sometimes we get burned.
     
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    Yes, I am a native speaker of English. It is interesting to learn about these students. I didn't know all of this and now that I am learning from you, it is making me think of a few of my students a little closely.
     
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    I'll just <snif> whimper here melodramatically on the West Coast...
     
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    I must say I am quite intrigued by all this insights.

    I just a while ago went to dinner with a couple of my girlfriends who are also teachers, and all I could talk about was school in relation to literacy.

    It has become soooo verrryy fascinating to me. So much so that I want to further my studies. I am very confuse as to where I want to place my concentration in.
     
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    EBKLYN


    Off topic... but where did you have dinner any place good:D



    Sorry, I'm a foodie:D
     
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    TeacherGroupie,

    You are definitely a good and intelligent person with a lot of wisdom to offer someone like me. If you weren't I would not sit at this computer with you so long if I didn't believe so, on this topic. Because of you I must say I am truly motivated to want to know more about these types of students.
     
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    MissFrizzle,

    Red Lobster. I told my friends that we are not coming back there any time soon because we are fine ladies and I think we deserve finer restaurants.
     
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    I agree, but those cheese biscuits are to die for:D
     
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    I'm chuckling, EBKLYN: that's one pole of behavior one sees with gifted students - "I could do this - wait, this is cool too - wait, what about this? - wait -" The other pole, of course, is total immersion to the exclusion of everything else. And most of us do both, depending.
     
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    Being a foodie is something to be sorry about??
     
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    MissFrizzle,

    It is soo good that by the time dinner comes around your stomach is full.
     
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    hahah... very true.:cool:
     
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    Seems to me you have a lot of wisdom to offer, too, EBKLYN. Whatever groups of students you end up with - and I'm guessing you'll cycle through several in the course of your career - will be in good hands.
     
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    TeacherGroupie,

    Have you taught gifted classes before?
     
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    Thanks a lot for the encouragement.

    Have you been teaching long? How long?
     
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    MissFrizzle,

    What is your ideal grade to teach?

    I prefer early childhood grades. Right now I am enjoying every moment of it.
     
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    I am hoping for 2nd. However, I don't have too much experience beyond 6th grade.
     
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    I teach, um... test prep.
     
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    MissFrizzle,

    Do you think of subbing or looking for a teaching in a public school?
     
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    TG, that's a great thing! I'm sure your expertise is appreiciated.
     
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    ABSOLUTELY..... I sub one day a week , while I work as a case manager for the disabled. I also volunteer in an afterschool program on that one day that I sub, hoping to get a foot in the door, but it's very discouraging, and I don't know if I will continue to look for much longer. Sometimes I feel like maybe I'm getting a sign:rolleyes:
     
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    Well, I think of it as harnessing the power of the geek for peaceful purposes.
     
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    TeacherGroupie,

    Why does a district send sample test questions to the parents to practice with their expected gifted child?
     
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    MissFrizzle,

    Would you consider looking back here?
     
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    to be really honest, no. It was such a bad time for me. :(
     
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    Don't give up MissFrizzle, how long have you taught?
     
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    One full year and then on to subbing.
     
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    MissFrizzle

    On a lighter note I have been meaning to tell you that I kind of like the avatar that you had prior to the cat. I think it matchesyour username.
     
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    They WHAT??

    Wait a sec - there's tea all over my computer screen.

    (mopping, wiping)

    Um. I suppose it's an attempt to level the playing field, so that kids who've never encountered those kinds of question before aren't at a disadvantage compared with kids who have. I would expect that the test du jour is either the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wechsler_Intelligence_Scale_for_Children, which is for ages 6 to 15, or the Wechsler Preschool and Primarily Scale of Intelligence, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wechsler_Preschool_and_Primary_Scale_of_Intelligence, which is for ages 3 to 7. (And no, I didn't know that without looking it up.) Both tests involve components that are nonverbal and - well, kind of unexpected-looking; could be that there are some kids who really are gifted but who happen not to do well on the more spatially oriented components. And of course there are parents who try to game the system <sigh>.
     
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    haha Roseann Roseannadanna with the frizzy hair...haha... but my cat is so much cuter...:love:

    Good Nite everyone... I'm exhausted. It's been a pleausure as usual.... :)
     
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    Good Night MissFrizzle.

    Thanks for being such a wonderful person. I don't meet and talk to too many folks like yourself.
     
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    TeacherGroupie,

    It has been a breath of fresh air and a pleasure to have the opportunity to have a discussion with you on this subject. I see it in a different light and thank to you soo very much. I see giftedness in a different light. Thanks!

    I hope to have many more conversations with you.

    You may not know how much this means to me. I do not get the opportunity to discuss with other teachers and to share their views.

    It is very lacking. I think this is one profession whereby teachers do not talk to each other unless it is about bashing administratives.

    Are you retiring for bed, please let me know.
     

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