The Flipped Classroom

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  1. EiffelTower

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    Is anyone currently doing this with their students? We had a PD on it today and the expectation is to try it out before the end of the year and use it next year on a regular basis. I was curious to hear what you thought the pros/cons of it were and if you had any helpful suggestions to make it run more smoothly. Thanks! If you would like to learn more about this model, you can read about it on my blog, Teaching in a Common Core Classroom.
     
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    I think it is a bad idea at the elem. level. The pros could be that it frees up class time to have discussions/work time/projects instead of lecture, but the cons are pretty overwhelming: kids don't watch it at home -- and then what?, kids can't ask questions during a lecture, kids hate it (at least the ones I talk to), etc.
     
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    All I have heard about this model (including from the source you posted on your blog) seems to pertain to high school. I can see how it could work there (although I'm still not sure I like it), but I have issues with it at the elementary level. Frankly, it would not work at my school. I am in a low income area, and quite simply, not every family has access to the internet or a computer. So there's that problem. I also don't like this for primary grades at all. I can't see my 6 year olds learning new content this way effectively. Also, are they supposed to watch videos in every subject every night? Would they be watching a phonics video, a grammar video, a reading comprehension video, a math video, a science video, a social studies video - all in one night? That seems rather excessive for first graders, but we can cover all those areas on a single day.
     
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    :yeahthat:
     
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    I teach in a very high income high school. Some of the other teachers tried it at the beginning of the year (I did not). So many students and parents complained that those teachers "weren't teaching" that they ended up stopping it.
     
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    msufan: I'm concerned with what to do with the students who never complete their homework and what to do with them if they don't watch the videos beforehand. Their parents are aware of it, but have chosen to not change anything about it. What do I do if this happens? No one seems to be able to answer that question.

    yellowdaisies: From what I read last night, it's roughly 3 videos a week. I'm not sure if it's all in one subject area or not. If you're a middle/high school teacher, than that would be somewhat doable because it's only one content area, but I'm not sure how it would work in a classroom where you teach all subjects. I'm not even sure what subject to even start with as a 4th grade teacher.

    Mathemagician: I'm curious to hear the reaction of parents when this model is rolled out, especially my parents that I have now since I've established relationships with them. Next year, it will be interesting to see the reaction if we truly do this model on a regular basis as we've been told is the expectation from the start next year.
     
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    Interesting. Do you think they will have you start with one subject and then move on from there? Or just focus on one subject? I would be curious about what your K-2 teachers think. I just wonder how it would work in primary, I guess.
     
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    I'm starting with one subject to get the hang of it so I can introduce the concept to my class. Still debating between reading and math.

    I talked with several K, 1st and 2nd grade teachers about it and I think they're just overwhelmed with how to even start it. 2nd not as much as K-1. I guess we'll see how it goes.
     
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    We're encouraged to experiment with flipping in my school. A 4th-grade teacher at my school has flipped his classroom, and he has had a wonderful response from parents.
     
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    I think it could be a wonderful tool for differentiation. Both in that you could assign different videos to different kids and the time you would free up have to work with small groups/individuals.
     
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    Do you happen to know anything about how he has gone about implementing this?
     
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    We found out that flipping a classroom only works with the most motivated students. They are the group that do their homework anyway. Our most fragile students need a leader, not a video.
     
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    It's just a fancy word for homework with videos, isn't it?

    If the kids don't watch the videos, you'll have to deal with that. If parents aren't on board, good luck.

    I personally think it's good for high schoolers, but they need to do the work at home.Some will come to class unprepared and then what? You will have to catch them up?
     
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    Unfortunately, I don't know too much. I'm on the opposite end of the building from the 4-grade wing, and I don't know the teacher too well. A few things I do know:
    -His students are allowed to bring their own devices, which means his class is 1:1. Students who don't have their own devices use laptops and other classroom computers.
    -For students who do not have internet access at home, he will either print out the material, or allow them to do it right before school starts (the first bell rings at 8:30 for students to go to their classrooms, and school begins at 8:45). They also have the option of viewing the next day's work at recess (students have an hour-long lunch, which includes a 35-minute recess).

    If you're interested, send me a PM and I will give you the link to his classroom website. He uses it to post all assignments, so you can maybe find out more information that way.
     
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    There is a book on Amazon that I'm going to read that will hopefully give me a lot more information on how to use this model. I am down to less than 3 weeks to try out one lesson and need to get down to business!
     
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    That's garbage. You are doing just as much teaching as anyone else...you just aren't doing it with students sitting in the room! All the work you did preparing the videos and new lesson plans don't count for anything? Where is your admin on this? :unsure:

    I have tried "flipping" various units and topics, just to see, with mixed results. I have come to a conclustion that in order to make it work, I need to commit to it fully. To make a football analogy, some coaches only want to run "a little bit" of the triple option. That isn't going to work. You either run it full-bore, or don't.

    Does anyone else feel this way?
     

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