Thanksgiving break!

Discussion in 'Teacher Time Out' started by whizkid, Nov 11, 2018.

  1. swansong1

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    Actually, what I would really be concerned with are people who automatically think parents are using their children as meal tickets. I wonder if that attitude spills into the classroom.
     
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    I’ve actually seen parents like this, I’m afraid, and I continue to see this kind of thing more and more, so this is more common than you think. To demonstrate, I came from humble beginnings if you recall and I knew many mothers who would say things like, “I’m going to have many kids so I get a bigger check and don’t have to work.” This attitude is quite pervasive among working-class people groups.

    I, myself, live on the same street as a “mother” who never works and has 11 kids. She collects thousands a month and doesn’t pay a dime in taxes as she gets it all back and multiple thousands on top of that every tax season. How do I know? I frequently speak with my neighbors to shoot the breeze and it ticks us off whenever she boasts about it. She doesn’t deserve a dime, as far as my neighbors and I are concerned and we resent living in the same municipality as her. We actually pay and contribute into the system and she does not. She’s a leech.
     
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    And parents who send their kids to school sick as a dog and get mad when the school calls and alerts them, and that's when they actually answer the phone.
     
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    Or the parents who come dressed as street hookers.
    We had parents who were overwhelmed with joy on the first day of school and some even proclaimed "it's payback time".

    Perhaps the defenders on here aren't used to parents like these or are used to them but would rather bury their heads in the sand and pretend the situation doesn't exist.
     
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    It’s a sad state of affairs when parents dress like this and gleefully pass off their children to someone else... I feel bad for the children.
     
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    Maybe I'm just living in unreality. I understand that parents like these exist and I have seen a few in my time. However, I continue to believe that they are in the minority. I do feel sorry for those children, too.
     
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    I live in a rural, high-poverty area. I see a lot of parents who are ill-equipped for parenting. The reasons vary, but the outcome is still the same.
    • parent with low IQ
    • struggling to provide needs
    • undiagnosed mental illness
    • drug abuse
    • incarcerated parents
    • grandparents or siblings forced into parenting role
    We consistently have the highest attendance in the district. DH & I joke that it is because nobody wants a middle school kid in their house, but in all honestly we know why they really do have good attendance. We hate heat/air conditioning and a consistent schedule. The adults in the building don't miss school often. And we feed them twice a day for free.
     
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    I was pulling out of the school driveway and literally saw a parent drive right past the child when the child was walking in the direction the car was coming from. No concern whatsoever.
     
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    There's no "maybe" in it. We had these same discussions around this time last year, it's just that you're just now acknowledging the same reality that the rest of us live. The troublemaking kids and their enabling parents are the same as last year........except now the parents want to come to the school jumping on the teacher because their child wanted to act a fool and the principal sent the child home. Now you have to "parent" the child during your freedom time, I know, parenting your own child, oh the horror. Or, having your child escorted off campus by the police because the child had marijuana in his backpack ready to make a sale to other little children and the parent probably supplied the "goods".
     
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    Oh my goodness. SMH
     
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    I am going to respectfully agree to disagree. I don't have the jaded outlook you have on people and life. I will continue to look for the best in people with no apologies. I spent my teaching career working to help families, even the ones who didn't share my values. I did not spend my career tearing down and mistreating the people around me )even if it is just with words).
    I am a glass half full person and I feel bad for those among us who are glass half empty people.
     
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    I don't have a jaded outlook, I have a realistic one. Sorry, but every child is not an angel and every parent isn't Mother Theresa. The inadequate parents don't want to raise their children and their children make learning a living hell on those kids that want to learn, so their parents take them out of school and place them in other districts or private school which ends up killing enrollment numbers and school funding. The parents and kids that do try have to suffer because of the "I just want my break and my check" parents and inadequate administration who's too busy trying to make parents happy instead of leading. Like you alluded to earlier, you're living in "unreality".

    Your school may be wonderful, you may not have these issues where you work, you might also have heavy parental involvement and highly supportive administration with great discipline, but that's not the case everywhere. Time to take off the rose colored glasses.
     
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    I took the rose colored glasses off 40 years ago in my 20's. I could never have lasted through a 40+ year career with an attitude like yours.
     
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    Yea, I'm sure the educational environment is exactly the same today. :roll:

    "Maybe I'm just living in unreality"

    We'll just leave it at that.
     
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    I belong to a few teacher groups on Facebook and teachers were posting the same things. One teacher posted a screenshot of a parent saying, "Why do the kids need a day off for Thanksgiving? They can eat turkey when they get home from school". Now, this might be a joke post but it's pretty accurate regarding how some parents thing. It would be funny if it wasn't reality.
     
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