Thanksgiving break!

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  1. TeacherNY

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    If you can't afford to take off work for your kids then:
    #1 Get a better job
    #2 Get an inexpensive sitter
    #3 Don't have kids
    I don't need any rebuttals from certain posters who feel their sole purpose on this forum is to defend parents.
    And #4 you won't change my mind so save your little typing fingers for some other purpose.
     
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    Not trying to change your mind on anything...just wondering if you have kids?
     
  3. TeacherNY

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    Nope. That proves my point.
     
  4. swansong1

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    Oh, that explains why you seem to live in a fantasy world regarding families.
    And, you are certainly entitled to your point of view, also.
     
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  5. TeacherNY

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    I'm more realistic than parents who's fantasy is for schools to babysit, raise, and do everything else for their children.
     
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    I do agree with that point of view.
    However, I believe that the majority of parents try to do the best with their children and aren't expecting someone else to raise them. I base that upon my 40+ years of teaching and the hundreds and hundreds of families who have passed through my classrooms.
     
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    That might depend on where you live. My community we are expected to teach way more than the academics required. This is my 11th year and it gets worse each year. The parents get younger and younger, too
     
  8. MissCeliaB

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    I don't need to have children to have empathy for parents in a rough system. You say, "get a better job" as if everyone lives in a magical place where there are jobs available with flexible hours and enough pay for parents to be home more with their kids. You say, "find a cheaper sitter" as if childcare is not ridiculously expensive. Louisiana has a relatively low cost of living, but here's the breakdown for my parents: "In Louisiana, single parents pay 42.0% of their income for center-based infant child care. Married parents of two children living at the poverty line pay 65.3% of their household income for center-based child care. The average price of center-based infant child care in Louisiana is less than the average annual tuition and fees at a public four-year college or university." You say "don't have kids" as if that's an option for those who: had kids while in better financial standing but lost jobs, homes, etc. or for whatever reason were not given a choice in the matter.
     
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    That's not exactly what I meant. I meant that the parent sees the school as a daycare center.
     
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    9 days, no children, no incompetent coworkers, tis the life.
     
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    I know, right?! I plan on seeing Frozen II, Knives Out, 21 Bridges, going to a TON of my favorite restaurants, and going on a shopping spree. I also plan to get a massage once a day and to spend a couple of days gambling and visiting the Bay Area. What are your plans? :)
     
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    I don't have a Thanksgiving break any more, but I do vacation. Right now I am on my cross country trip on the way to a Hawaiian vacation. Hope you all have a restful few days off.
     
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    Football and food. I've done all of my shopping and errands, so I won't see any kids from the community.
     
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    What kind of food? :)
     
  16. Ima Teacher

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    DH and I both have to work Monday & Tuesday, but we are off the rest of the week.
    • take pets to the vet
    • visit FIL
    • cook traditional meal
    • take food to Mom's
    • Black Friday shopping
    • clean house
    Nothing very exciting, but I'm glad to have the free days.
     
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    Wait, you have to work Monday and Tuesday?! How long is your Thanksgiving Break? Mine is 9 days in total as it started Saturday (11/23) and continues through to next Sunday (12/1), meaning I don’t return to work on December 2nd.
     
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    A lot of schools are in session Mon & Tue or Mon-Wed. I only have Wed-Fri off.
     
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    :eek:

    I don’t find that fair to you. I think you should have the entire week off like me... You and others deserve a break...
     
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    We have to work even on Wed. I'll still be thankful for Thursday and Friday though. I love my grown kids a lot, had them very young, but took care of them. It was a different time than now. You could live off of 1 income when my kids were young. Once they were in school, I went back to work.
    Looking at the times now, I can see where a lot of people would struggle greatly raising kids . Prices have skyrocketed while incomes have not. People have become used to having things they want as opposed to what they need. ( Credit became more readily available.)
    I know a lot of people in their 30's and 40's who decided not to have kids because they knew that they did not have the time or resources to raise kids properly. ( Some had different priorities too. Like they enjoyed their freedom- travel, and didn't really understand the joy kids can bring to your life.)
    From what I see just in my little corner of the world, the thinkers and planners are not reproducing. The ones who have kid after kid ( all w/ the same issues) are often ones who do not think. At 1x, there was a decent gene pool in this area. It is getting smaller and smaller. It is sad , and I hope it is not like that in other corners of the world.
     
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    Or perhaps they didn't care, like a lot of us don't.
     
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    Lots of dressing and pie.
     
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    What do you not care about?
     
  24. Ima Teacher

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    We have usually gotten three days plus the weekend. It’s not a big deal. We got a whole week off in October after our first grading period, and we get two weeks off after the second grading period at Christmas.
     
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    My district seems to prefer a long summer break with only a few short breaks during the school year. We get a one-day fall break in October, Wed-Fri at Thanksgiving, less than two weeks for winter break (the exact number of days varies, depending on when the holidays fall), and one week for spring break. We get a few random holidays: Labor Day, MLK, Jr. Day, sometimes Presidents' Day, and Memorial Day. We get a random day off in April/May, but both that day and the Wednesday before Thanksgiving are considered compensation days for having worked evening parent teacher conferences.

    They really don't give us enough time off during the school year. It affects teacher mental health, and it shows, unfortunately. If only they'd accept a shorter summer with more or lengthier breaks during the school year, I suspect that they'd see fewer issues with sub shortages (because teachers wouldn't take as mental personal and sick days during the year) and possibly even better student achievement (because teachers wouldn't feel as overwhelmed, stressed, and burnt out and would have more energy to put towards effective teaching).
     
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    Still though, I get 17 days off for my Christmas Break, which is just 4 days shy of 3 weeks.
     
  27. futuremathsprof

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    That’s why I love my private school because we get all of that plus more. For instance, our Thanksgiving and Christmas Breaks are longer than those of our public school counterparts and we frequently have 3-day weekends peppered throughout the school year. It’s really, really nice!
     
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    I have plenty of time off. We got around 20 snow days last year. We have already had one.
     
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    Oh, that’s right. I keep forgetting that you have to make up for snow days.
     
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    I'm on it now, day 2. It seems like it's going to rain 2.5 - 3 days of my (M-F) break. Now I love the rain normally, but I wanted to go have a fun day that I probably won't be able to do.

    I'm trying to be as relaxed as possible. Things have been stressful for me lately.
     
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    No children in sight, this is absolute heaven.
     
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    I love the quiet. My first day off was today! Went to the post office to mail a secret santa gift, went to Starbucks for a treat and then came home to read on the couch. Life is good!
     
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    This is my 1st day off. GRR! I got up at 5 and started to put stuff in the oven. I'll be feeling more thankful tomorrow when I can sleep in.....:)
     
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    And after filling up on carbs, omg the sleep will be incredible!
     
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    Since the Xmas season is officially underway, I'll bring that thread back out next week. The countdown can never start too early!
     
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    I just took the nap of the year so far. That December 26th nap will probably overtake this one.
     
  37. a2z

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    Well then, the parent is right. There are a lot of days off during the school year. My district never had the whole week off.
     
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    You're still not following me. This is a parent that sits home all day collecting a check for having a child which is typical around here. School is literally an 8 hour break in her world and the child learning anything is of no concern, hence the comment "why do they need a whole week off?" The child is a payday and nothing more.
     
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    And you have a personal relationship with this parent so you are aware of what goes on in her life?...
     
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    Seems to me you'd be more concerned with the child being a meal ticket than providing a defense of the parent.
     

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