Testing Snafu

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  1. Missy

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    So, the standardized testing site was down for the ENTIRE state of Ohio today.
    Would like to be able to hold them accountable, as they do to us.
     
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    That happened in my state a few years ago, except that it lasted throughout the entire testing window. I think our state sued the testing company. It was a mess.
     
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    That's horrible. We had this trouble with the PARCC last year. It onlty lasted about an hour for us, but it was a real nusiance nonetheless. With all the money the state pays these for-profit corporations for the testing, you would think they could at least design a functioning test. There were never these issues with paper and pencil tests.
     
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    Yep, I'm in Ohio, and we had this happen today! What a chaotic, confusing situation.
     
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    They say it is back up and ready for tomorrow; we’ll see!
     
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    We had a snafu today! Delayed my students while others finished their tests first.
     
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    I just had a horrible thought. What if someone hacks the tests?!
     
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    Would that really be so horrible?
     
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    With the amount of money they're using, they should really go to computer-adaptive testing.

    CAD tests score automatically and base the questions on the student's performance. For example, if the student gets the first two questions correct, the third question presented will be a more difficult one. If they get that right also, the system will present increasingly difficult questions until the taker gets a wrong answer.

    What this means is that the one taking the test will only do a limited set of questions and be done with the test far, far sooner than a usual test. I took the GMAT this way and the entire administration was less than a half hour. This has the extra benefit of reducing the extent to which a standardized test becomes an endurance or patience exercise.
     
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    One thing I have seen with CAD tests is that very low students are often blamed for the low scores. Unbelievable, I know. Because they test out so quickly, it is said that they lacked effort and didn't try.
     
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    What I really don't like about computer-adaptive testing, at least as I understand it, is that it doesn't allow for going back and rethinking. It thus seems to punish those who aren't as happy shooting from the hip.
     
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    The Ohio State Test window for ELA has been extended an extra two days.
     
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    Tests were back up and running today! Thank goodness!
     
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    And it was still chaotic with all that was missed yesterday. We have so many students with accommodations we didn’t have enough staff to cover.
    Perhaps AIR will go the way of PARCC!
     
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    True enough. It doesn't really give you the option to go back and forth between questions., though I've always thought it punished those who gave answers quickly and without sufficient thought (I.e., shooting from the hip).

    It seems to me like bringing a 3-hour test down to half an hour is worth it, but the forced structure is certainly a fair criticism.
    I think also a problem with other tests, except the kids get to sit there for a couple of hours.
     
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    And I don't like how it doesn't (usually) account for lucky guessing. If they developed a way for free response questioning instead of multiple choice(guess), I'd be more for it.

    And...they'd have to adjust their testing requirements. For instance, we cannot release anyone from the room even if they've finished their test. If you streamline the testing with CAD, then you would expect some students to finish much sooner than others. Then what do we do with those kids?
     
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    Interestingly, I believe (though could be wrong) ours is adaptive (though not to a full-on level), but there's a mix of multiple choice, free response, and allows students to go back during the same testing session.

    As with how I begin the year with tons of pushing of "stealing reading time", I play up the testing time as an opportunity to steal tons of reading time. The kids are totally into reading for the 5 minutes to couple hours that they have while they wait for their peers. Win win! (Though I have to be very, very careful to make sure that they don't rush through to get to that reading ;) )
     
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    Ugh!! We still have PARCC (though we just got a new Dem. governor who is planning to toss it soon)----good to know you're one step ahead of us, and it's no good either!
     
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    With our non-cad tests, even when it was paper and not computer, kids had to wait until everyone was finished or the window was closed. There were kids that would finish in 45 minutes and have to sit for an hour and 15 more.
     
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