Teacher sleeping during nap time?

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  1. Questions

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    Hi there,

    I was wondering how the directors feel about this.

    I realize it may be the teachers break or lunch time, but it still seems strange to me.

    Your thoughs?

    Thanks!
     
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    Strange? No. Negligent? Yes.
     
  4. Beth2004

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    If a teacher wants to sleep on his or her breaktime it needs to be done someplace else away from the children. Obviously if he/she is on break then there are other teachers to watch the children (or at least I would hope so!), but it would just appear very unprofessional to anyone who walked into the classroom during that time to see a teacher sleeping on the floor with the children.

    I've had coworkers who have done this in the past when there was nothing else to do on their hour lunch break and they went to other parts of the building to take a nap.
     
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    Thanks for the great feedback so far.

    I guess what I meant by strange was that, even if it was their break or lunch, it would suggest to me that they had come to work not adequately rested to do their job effectively. From what I understand she was actually sleeping - not just 'resting'.

    This teacher has also (I heard it) used an angry voice when dealing with children who were fighting - which may be due to inadequate sleep (on all accounts ;) )
     
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    My policy is that teachers are not allowed to take their breaks in classrooms. It is disruptive to the children and fellow teachers. And if I was doing a tour or a parent walked into the classroom, they do not know if that teacher is on their break or not. It just does not seem professional.
     
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    Funny, I was thinking about this while I was on my break yesterday. I rest, not sleep by any means. but I wouldn't do it while I was in the classroom. I would find it strange if I saw a teacher sleeping in the classroom and agree teachers should sleep/rest on their break.
     
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    sleeping during naptime is pretty unprofessional on all accounts. I know a couple of teachers who have fallen asleep during naptime. Though, I am sure the directors don't know. should we tattle on them. They have never done this at a point where they affect the children but...I guess I feel that this is part of the director's job to be aware of the teachers' actions without us having to run tell on them. your opinions?
     
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    One of my two year olds can not be left on his own to go to sleep. Mom and I are trying to break him of it, but are still having troubles. It all stemmed from her laying with him all the time when he has a nap/goes to sleep for the night. I do most often lay down with my twos next to them until they go to sleep. I've never fallen asleep and don't try to. When they are all asleep, I will normally get up. I can't see how any teacher would be able to sleep during anytime, even naptime, as I would worry too much about the kids waking up and doing something they shouldn't be, especially two year olds!

    My director has told us of one story where a teacer flat out fell asleep in a chair, in the infant room. She was immediately fired on spot.
     
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    This is something I'm curious to know. It was another teacher who told me. I had just walked in the room at the end of nap time and said jokingly "wouldn't it be nice to have a nap during the day..." and to my reply she said "______ did". Then out walked _______ obviously just waking (yawning and stretching). I got the feeling that the other teacher doesn't approve and hoped that I (as an outsider) would snitch. But, I too am not sure how to handle this. I don't want to alienate myself with the director or the teacher for that matter but I feeling strongly that I should mention it...just not sure how to best tell without seeming like a busy body.

    How do you snitch in a constructive way? I don't feel it's my place to express my concern directly to the tired teacher.
     
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    Wait....teachers should sleep on their breaks? Come on now!! Yes teaching can be physically demanding, emotionally exhausting, but if you need a nap, tell someone you don't feel well and go HOME!! Go to bed earlier, exercise, eat healthy....You'll feel better and not be so exhausted at school......napping at school? NO WAY.
     
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    Well does it happen often? I mean things happen and stuf changes, a sick child at home or a new baby can effect sleep, and if was her break time and it was all hers not on the clock and away form everyone then I think se can do as she pleases. Maybe the morning tired her out. What happened that day? Were the kids especaily hyper that day or was there fighting betweent he kids?
    I am very understanding towards this bc my class is so bad that I feel like that some days like I jsut want to take a nap and start over.
    You cant always hold somethings against people.
    But if its a regular thing and her teaching meathod is always using a mad voice and yelling then I think she does need a GOOD talking to.
     
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    never listen to gossip.

    The director is the worst person you could get your story from they are back stabbing little witches.....never trust them they are nice to your face and stab you in the back once your back is turned.....the girl who got fired should fight to get her job back.I worked in a day care for 20 years and had some of the teachers fall asleep in the classes there were some health complications, but you don't just walk in a fire some one thats playing god with some ones livly hood and plaing god and no one has that right.
     
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    YOU DON'T you'll be concidered the snich of the school!




    don't say any thing you'll be call the snich of the school no one will talk to you for fear you'll go run to the director...take it from some one who had to deal with it.once you open your mouth and say some thing you'll never be trusted again
     
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    Well i don't know were your all from but they sleep here in the schools i'm in they have couches and tv in the teachers lounge
    and if it it the teachers break they normally don't have a class they can turn off the lights in their room and lock the door if need be
     
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    Not Negligent. Have you ever worked with 8 to 10 two year olds at once? don't condem till you have!
     
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    For me, the best advice here has been that if some feels the need to sleep at work (sleep - not rest - it is different) then they should stay home until they are well enough (having had adequate sleep) to do there (demanding) job effectively (with better temperment and alertness). Sure we are all human, but in this job in particular, it is vital that a teacher be prepared to meet or exceed their job expectations each and every day that they choose to go to work. Afterall, the choice to take sick leave is also theirs.

    I can certainly understand someone worrying about the backlash of 'snitching' (a sub teacher told me she does not interfere for thtat reason). However, I feel strongly that the director does not know about this (they were not there when it happened) and should be told. I have decided to mention it without naming the actual person. The director has a very professional demeanor and will surely handle it in a way that allows for a solution. A general discussion can be had with the staff. This way it can be aired out and corrected without any one person being singled out. I realize the other teacher will come under suspicion, but I think that is the price you pay when you make a choice to be silent when you know right well something is wrong.

    Thanks for all your comments. You are all great for helping me figure this out!
     
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    Yes, I have, and half of them had physical handicaps. Sleep while responsible for students? Never.
     
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    going to work without enough rest is a choice we sometimes must make. How many of us have gone to work while we had a sinus infection, or felt under the weather. How about stomach cramps, headaches. In all of these situations, we are not at our best. I do not agree with teachers sleeping during nap-time, I am not sure if I care if they sleep during their breaks. But I am pretty sure that you have gone to work when you were not 100%, or if you stay in this field long enough, you will.
     
  20. JenPooh

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    Please be careful with how you words things around here, as there are many wonderful directors who visit this site. Please refrain from making such blanket statements, as it is very unprofessional.
     
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    I second that! I have. To sleep while being RESPONSIBLE for them is unacceptable.

    Now, on the flip side...I worked at a very low key daycare center. It was very small, inside a house (not a home center, but small and inside a rented house). very homey. At the time I was pregnant and I was the opener and had to be there by 6am...not fun. Since the center was very small there was nowhere to go for breaks ro lunches. Plus, we only got 30 minutes so there was no point to going anywhere. THe only choice was to stay there. Many times, since I was dead tired, I would lay down next to one of the kids who was struggling to get to sleep and nap with them and have the teacher who took over wake me up when my break was over. It actually helped the kids to fall alseep who were restless. It was either that, or stare at a wall (yippie). I had complications with my pregnancy as well and needed as much rest as possible.

    Now, I would NEVER condone someone sleeping while they were responsible for the children though. That is just irresponsible, PLUS, you are not suppose to get paid for sleeping!!! On your own time is another thing, in my opinion.

    However, if there is no policy about taking breaks elsewhere and they are on their own time, plus, if it does not disrupt anyone else, I wouldn't make a big deal about it. I guess it really just depends on the circumstances. JMO.
     
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    I would have fired her too. When someone is responsible for the children it should just be common sense that it is not acceptable! I too would be so afraid of something happening, a child getting up and escaping, etc. YIKES!

    copperah, I don't understand how that is "playing God".
     
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    Oregon Child Care Regulations state that the teacher must be awake. But, as a "mature" teacher, I need some rest during the day. This rest occurs only on my breaks, which are mine to sleep or not sleep.
     
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    I think you should mind your own business and stay out of this. You will end up regreting you made any comments.

    Another thought and more reasons not to react. You DID NOT actually see the person asleep.

    She may have gone in the room to resure the students and accidently dropped off to sleep. There was another person on duty.

    It really bothers me when people jump into something and don't know all the details and act oh so important.
     
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    I agree with Hescollin.You may be the one falling asleep some day or closing your eyes to rest when the kids are resting. When you start telling on people, it usually backfires and they either get even, or you will get the reputation of being a snitch!
     
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    Yeah, I thought you meant that the teacher napped in the room while the kids napped. I knew a teacher who used to fall asleep when it was nice and quiet in there. Dangerous. I have sometimes used the teacher 'lounge' to put my feet up and rest an aching back. Nothing wrong with that.
     
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    If your kid was in that room would it be your business?
    No, that's right I was told the person was sleeping and when they entered the room yawning and stretching it was evidence enough for me. But I was there...you were'nt ... so perhaps you can heed your own advice unless you are a director since that is who I addressed my question to...I knew the guilty teachers would have your attitude... And by the way, anyone who 'accidentally' falls to sleep needs some serious medical attention... driving would be dangerous otherwise...

    Sorry for making all you tired teachers so hot under the collar...geesh, you'd think it was you that I was referring to. Then again - maybe it is... Get some sleep - it will improve your outlook and general mood.

    Thanks to everyone else. I know what I have to do and will do so. And I will take the assumption that it was the teachers break or lunch when I mention it...
     
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    I am not sure if I understand: Was this person sleeping in the room with the children during their break? Were they in another room sleeping when they were suppose to be in ratio? Or were they on a break and sleeping in another room?
     
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    I don't mind a person taking a nap on their break (outside of the classroom and outside of children's supervision areas). Shoot, I have a condition that causes me to have insommia at times. I go to work all the time with sleep deprivation. I wouldn't be able to go to work if full rest was required. Personally I am too darn busy to take a nap, but it would be nice! :) Don't condemn a person for being tired. There are all kinds of issues from sinus, ahem (age), pregnancy to various sleep disorders. Does that mean I shouldn't be working? Personally I am a very hard worker and do my job well. I did take MANY naps when I was pregnant (in an empty room). Now I live with insommia. I never do. Interesting.
     
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    Like I stated before. It may have been their break - I am not sure. But by the sounds of it (the way the other teacher remarked) it was not. The person was sleeping in one of the rooms of the classroom. Like I mentioned, I arrived right when the nap time ended (I was actually waiting for the lights to come one before entering the room). I jokingly mentioned "wouldn't it be nice to have a nap during the day" (referring to the children). At which the teacher replied "_______ did" ... then into the main room where we all were walked ________ yawning and stretching and then ______ saw me standing there.

    Thats all there was to it. I thought it was strange. I have worked where the lounge had a sofa too and have seen many resting (eyes closed) - but never have I seen someone actually sleeping (out the world) at work - on break or not. I'm not above being tired at work - so I'm not being all important as someone else said - but when it appears to be affecting your job (like how I had previously witnessed the same teacher using a loud whiny angry voice) then someone (like the boss) needs to know. Maybe the person needs help with problems at home - who knows. Maybe it was nothing. I just came here asking because for all I know it could have been the norm in this business.

    Sorry to ruffle so many feathers. :eek:
     
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    I've been teaching for over 14 years and can never imagine sleeping while on "duty". What "break" is long enough to actually sleep on anyhow? On my "breaks" or prep time, I'm busy preparing lessons, making copies, etc. and sleep is the LAST thing on my mind.
    I've come to school sicker then a dog, (I know.....shouldn't have, but sometimes a sub is MORE work then I need when I'm sick), and I've never even thought about taking a nap.
    Ok, so no advice to the original poster.............sorry, only my two cents!:p
     
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    Questions, if this appears to be an "ongoing" problem, I'd mention it. If this is just an isolated incident, I'd let it go. Go by the three strikes rule in this case.
    Let me add this; My hubby is a manager of a graphics/printing plant, on more then one occasion have his employees been "caught" sleeping on the job.........IT IS A HUGE DEAL! They are written up, and it goes in permanent file. They don't have little children in their care, thank goodness!!!!!!!!!:eek: ........so I DO think sleeping on the job when you are to be in charge of precious little ones, is a BIG NO NO!

    Oh, and I also believe hes is right....don't EVER jump to conclusions. Get ALL the facts first before you ever decide to report it.
     
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    questions, I think that you have made up your mind that this is something about which you should speak to the director. I have a similar situation, and have made up my mind that I am not going to speak to the director. I am not sure if anyone is getting upset though. I believe most directors at most schools would say that sleeping where parents of students and potential students, licensing, or board members can see is unprofessional. I do believe that some teachers tried to recommend that you just ignore the situation. I think that many teachers here have found that you have to pick your battles. Though it sounds that this is something with which you and some other posters take major issue. In that case, I believe you would be doing yourself and the children a disservice if you did not take a stand.
     
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    I have worked in child care centers and although I have never taken a nap during my break, I have had co-workers choose to nap during their 1 hour lunch break. Personally, I have no issue with napping during a break in the teacher lounge.

    Is it Japan where employees are encouraged to take a 20 minute nap during their work day?
     
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    let's not forget france and mexico
     
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    First, please remember that we try to keep things on the courteous side here. You asked your question and it was addressed. You saw someone stretching and made the assumption that they had been sleeping. Maybe they had sat at the computer and typed notes the whole time. Maybe that had sat at their desk and filled out paperwork. There are many reasons why someone would be yawning and stretching. As for us "tired teachers", there should be no problem with a teacher resting on their break time with no kids in the room. I have been at school sick before and once the kids were gone, I locked my door, turned out the lights, and rested. It's my break time. I'm on school grounds and available. That's all that is required. I've also been in the prek and k rooms when they were napping. Dimmed lights, soft music, it would be very easy to nod off for a second.
    In answer to your question, I would say no to going to someone. You don't know for sure if the teacher was sleeping. Going to the director with your assumption could cause lots of problems. It would be different if you saw the teacher sleeping with kids in the room. Then you would obligated to share.
     
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    My husband (darn him :p ) agrees with you. He says just wait and see if it is ongoing. I'm just concerned that when you mention something after the fact that motive comes into play. I suppose I could ask the other teacher for more details too since it will be obvious anyway if I were to tell. That might work since they may then discuss it and if it's an actual problem it will self correct since they would fear that I might say something.

    Thanks for your comments too.
     
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    My point, exactly. I believe Christy understands the whole picture. Where I work, we are encouraged to rest or even nap during our breaks so that we are ready for the long, challenging afternoon. We want to be ready for the kids the rest of the day and a rest sure does help when you're not feeling well or had a rough night's rest. 15 minutes with your eyes closed is called a power nap, I believe.
    I would be more concerned with a teacher who is crabby with the kids than one who is trying to rest her eyes to feel better for the kids the rest of the day.
     
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    I know a lot of teachers who stretch and yawn during the day. I know teachers who have fallen asleep in a quiet area while on their breaks, and I know directors who have done the same thing. THey are caring, compassionate, and high energy teachers, who have no medical problems. I would suggest being a bit nicer to fellow teachers who are offering their honest opinions. I don't see anyone getting angry , so I would hope that you wouldn't be angry either. Grammy
     
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    SNIPPED
    Sorry, I did get snarky to the tone of the post I was replying to. But that was my choice and not a good one - thankfully this is not my job ;) - and perhaps it will serve to show that I am also human.

    I don't feel I made an assumption. I was told the teach had been sleeping - the yawning and stretching was evidence enough for me.

    I know it might be hard for many to believe but the calm reason of you last few has made me soften my resolve. I still want to ensure it is not a problem, because it is my business, but I now see there is a better way of going about that then bringing it up to the director.

    My motive is to ensure the well being and safety of their small charges - not to get someone in trouble.
     
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    Wow, the only thing I have left to say is just to remember, when you ask for advice, be prepared to get it, even if you don't agree! ;)
     

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