Teacher Slams Scripted Common Core Lessons That Must Be Taught "Word For Word"

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  1. czacza

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    Stop, HT....you are implying a tone that simply wasn't there. I was asking to clarify my understanding.
     
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    The information to clarify that understand was in the poster's previous response...directly above the post you quoted.
     
  3. czacza

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    Yeah, I missed that one, but profuse thanks, honestly, for your most benevolent and kind hearted efforts in clarifying that for me.

    Maybe now the conversation about the standards can continue...
     
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    Sorry, but I disagree on data collection. I do not need it.

    Data collection is for everyone (Admin, parents, reading specialists, state, nation) except me. My principal wanted to prove that point. After knowing my students my students for one month, several gave guesses on where the students would score. It was amazing how close I was. Their guesses were based on data from previous years. I was much closer. Why? Because I am with the child daily and KNOW them.

    I've read lots on Finland's education and although I am pretty sure it will not fly in America, they have thrived on theories with no testing. One book opened with the connection of babies first learning to walk. Some do at 9 months, most around 12 months, and some at 15 months. That's OK. Concern and testing of non-walkers doesn't happen until 16 months. Parents know when their now walking child is ready for stairs, inclines, declines, and such not because of testing, but by simply knowing their child. They know their stamina...4 steps, 4 feet, 4 blocks, or 4 miles. Likewise for teachers in the classroom.
     
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    "It's not the Common Core that's at fault, it's the implementation that's the problem."

    Exactly Teacherman.
     
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    What are you talking about?. Your daily interaction with the students IS data collection and analysis.
     
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    Saying you don't need data collection means you probably don't understand what folks mean by data collection. End of year testing is useless in terms of instruction, and I agree - it's for accountability & reporting. However, daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly data collection - quantitative & qualitative, informal & formal, are hugely important.
     
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    As a high school teacher, end of year testing is not "useless in terms of instruction;" I use end-of-year testing data from previous years for my new students to evaluate areas of weakness and strength.
     
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    Must be nice to get that data... :mad:
     
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    That's valid Honest_Teacher - I stand corrected.
     
  11. Rabbitt

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    You are absolutely right. However, that's not what is accepted and expected.
     
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    How could there be an effective way to implement CC across the board? Common Core itself is at fault. There are way too many issues with it. I'm amazed that any teachers could possibly defend it. There is a lot of trauma going on as it directly relates to common core. It's doing exactly what it was meant to do.
     
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