Students in the teacher's lounge

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  1. jen12

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    What do you think about students coming into the teacher's lounge?

    There is a teacher at a school where I regularly work who has students come find her in the lounge during lunchtime when they are finishing work or a punishment, like writing lines. She has them check in with her before they can go play.

    I have a slight issue with this for several reasons:

    A) I never eat or drink in front of the kids. I subscribe to the rules I was taught as a child - if you don't have enough for everyone, leave it at home. There can often be goodies in the lounge. I just think it's unkind to let them come in and see that and know that they can't have any.

    B) It's our break time. We get so little time during the day to take a breather,the lounge and bathroom are almost sacrosanct

    C) In this particular school, I've witnessed a lot of venting that can be misunderstood if heard in pieces...A student with big ears can really have feelings hurt and can start a big hullaballoo if the comments are repeated to a parent and the parent complains.

    I'm really just wondering if this is common. Since I'm but a lowly sub, I don't have a leg to stand on in terms of complaining and I rarely even eat in the lounge because it often makes me uncomfortable if workplace politics are being discussed. What do you think about students in this area?
     
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  3. czacza

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    No students in the lounge. The teacher who needs kids to check in with her can have them leave a message for her in the office or she can supervise them doing their punishment. The kids should not be coming in the lounge...it intrudes on teacher 'down time' and it's embarrassing for the students.:(
     
  4. Caesar753

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    I can understand it happening maybe once in an unusual situation with unusual circumstances, but as a regular thing I think it's inappropriate. Our faculty lounge has a sign on the door saying that students who enter are subject to disciplinary action. It's pretty much the only area of the school that is designated teachers-only, and I appreciate that. Kid-free break time is important to some people (me included) and I'd be pretty irritated if other teachers didn't respect that.

    Do you have a Teacher Advisory Council or some other group that you could raise this matter to? Is it worth mentioning it to the principal?
     
  5. smalltowngal

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    This is our rule as well.
     
  6. Shanoo

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    A few years back our school was renovating our cafeteria. It was supposed to be done during the summer, but, of course, it took longer than expected.

    During lunch hours, we had signs posted as to which classrooms had microwaves that students could use during the two months that it was going to take to finish the cafeteria.

    One of my former students had an options class that ran during lunch hour. One day, during 3rd period, which ran right after lunch, he knocked on the staffroom door to ask if he could use the microwave in the staffroom as afternoon classes were running and he didn't want to disturb anyone. I was the only one in the staffroom at the time, so I let him.

    Well, apparently, he took that as permission to come in everyday and microwave his food. I finally had to tell him that if he wanted to use it, he had to knock and ask EVERY DAY. I explained that sometimes conversations were taking place that weren't for students' ears and that it was rude to just walk in.
     
  7. KatherineParr

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    Students are welcome in our lounge when invited there by a teacher. They routinely come in to check with one of us or to ask a question. Some teachers tutor in the lounge, especially after school, on weekends and during breaks. I think students feel hesitant to enter, which is a good thing, but they can do so if necessary.

    They are not permitted to poach our coffee, though!
     
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    We don't have a hard and fast rule, but I personally don't like it when the students come in the workroom. To me, that's our professional "haven", and I need a place where I can work or speak without having to govern everything I say or do.
     
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    Our school has a sign posted as well "No Students in the Teacher's Lounge" and we have never had any issues with students in the lounge. I know that one of our teachers (probably me :D) would have addressed this issue with the teacher doing the rule breaking and ask her not to use our Sanctuary as a punishment for one of her students.

    My own daughter has never even been in the teacher's lounge :) If she needs me at lunch, she asks the teacher on supervision to come and get me :)
     
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    I don't think I even knew where the teacher's lounge was when I was in school! :) In my opinion, it is definitely not a place for students as there are too many adult conversations going on!
     
  11. Math

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    In my school the only students that are allowed in the Teacher's Lounge are the ones that are volunteer TA's. I believe they have some type of tag so that they don't get in trouble for going into the Teacher's Lounge.
     
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    When I was in High School the lounge was the room with the smoke rolling out the door whenever it was opened! :dizzy: My how times have changed!
     
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    We have signs posted now because several staff members have children or grandchildren that attend our school. Some of the people let their kids in, and one lady let her kids get food during potlucks!
     
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    This is how ours works as well. During the summer we have students who work there so they use the lounge for lunch and stuff. It was a bit awkward at first because I don't like eating my lunch in front of my kids. However, it was also nice in a way because I got to meet kids before school started :)

    I haven't seen a kid in there since school started but we don't have a sign saying teachers only. They just seem to know!
     
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    We don't even have a teachers' lounge -- but IF we did, I would veto student access. I agree with many reasons others have cited. By far the biggest issue I have is the HIGH LIKELIHOOD of students hearing something not intended for their ears. It could be the most innocuous statement, but trust me, it WILL get twisted around, like the old game "Gossip" or "Telephone" and will not be recognizable later. Tutor or consult with students in the media center! And you really should be careful about what gets said around subs, for that matter. In the small town where I teach, THAT has stirred up a hornet's nest, too.
     
  16. Joy

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    The majority of the schools where I sub never have students in the teacher's lounge. I think that it seems kind of disrespectful for students to be in there.
     
  17. Aliceacc

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    The only times kids are allowed in our faculty lounge are when:

    a) it's Mardi Gras. They serve us lunch

    b) it's summer. We employ kids to paint and do other work in the building. Some end up working on the faculty room.

    Other than those two isolated instances, it's absolutely off limits.
     
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    The only "kids" that are allowed in our lounge are out TEP (high school workers).

    Today the door was open to the lounge, some lazy person propped it open, and I shut it because the kids kept meandering through the lounge.

    I really don't want kids even hearing the talk in the lounge because a lot of the veteran teachers have a habit of.... discussing.. students in the lounge loudly.
     
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    We have a few students who can go in the lounge and only to use the snack machine if sent down by the teacher they work for.
     
  20. geoteacher

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    Students are not allowed in our lounge. If they need a teacher during lunch, they need to knock on the door to get that person. We discuss many things in the lounge, and students should not be privy to those discussions.
     
  21. callmebob

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    During school hours students are not allowed in the lounge. Before and after school there are teachers kids who go through the lounge with their parents and that is okay.
    It comes back to the idea that conversations in the lounge are not for student ears. There would be teachers in trouble if students heard some of what is said in there.
     
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    What teacher's lounge? :lol:

    We have to eat at a small table in the resource room, which also conveniently houses the copy machine, laminator, paper cutter, only phone on the second floor, book sets, extra paper, first aid kits, science materials, and small group tables.

    Needless to say, private conversations and/or venting does not occur.
     
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    The students come and knock on the door. The teacher they are trying to get to goes out of the room to speak with them.
     
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    Students are not allowed in our workroom. We aren't supposed to call it a lounge because it gives a bad image. Like we are all in there laid out on the couch or something.
    My own kids may go in their after school to get a drink and it isn't a problem. Our venting takes place at lunch.
     
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    We don't have an actual rule, but I get annoyed when kids are in the lounge, too. At my old school, we had a courtyard. There were 2 entrances to the courtyard, one of which was in the teacher's lounge. Some teachers would eat with their class in the courtyard, and it was so annoying when they would cut through the lounge, instead of using the other door.

    I just feel like it is our quiet time away from the kids. Also, sometimes we talk about kids, and other children shouldn't be around to hear that. I'm not talking gossip, but just a "Someone in my class did this...What would you do?" Or a quick mention to the SPED teacher about how a student in my class did during writing time, and stuff like that.
     
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    No students in there... sometimes when someone's been out on maternity leave or whatever, they'll come in during lunch and bring their kids, or have their kids in there with them, but no students. The sign on the door says that.

    Upon occasion during class, I'll have a few of my students come with me to get things from the fridge/freezer... but never during lunch, and if anyone's in there, I always ask them first if it's OK if my helpers come help me carry some things.
     
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    Yeah, I was going to say something similar. Our only space like a lounge is actually the workroom, and the door is always left open to the office. Kids walk by all the time, and it's not terribly unusual to find a staff kid in there. None of this seems to stop private-type conversations from taking place in there, but I think it would be more of an issue if we had lunch breaks.
     
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    How is calling it a louge a bad thing? During someones lunch time they should be allowed to do as they please; eat lunch, read a book, take a quick nap if needed.
     
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    If you can't talk to the teacher, talk to your union rep. It's your lunch period - you shouldn't be working then. Kids in there is a big no no.
     
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    We have a no student policy for the teacher's lounge. It is adhered to strictly. If the teacher wants to allow her students to interrupt they can eat their lunch or take their break in their at their desk.
     
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    Teacher's lounge? What's that? LOL We have to eat lunch with our class in the cafeteria. (There is a seperate table set up for staff.) We don't have the staff for duty free lunch. In the district I used to sub in the policy was that in the event that a student needed a teacher they would have to knock on the door and then the teacher would need to step outside to deal with the issue.
     
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    I'm sorry this is off topic, but what is writing lines?
     
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    Students are not allowed in the teacher's lounge at my school. Our lounge is tucked in an area where there are no classrooms, bathrooms, etc. So, kids would have no reason to even be near it.
     
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    No students are allowed in the teacher's lounge in my school. I believe that there is a sign right on the door stating this. We also have a workroom, where the copy machine is located as well as a professional library and some lunch tables. Students are generally not allowed in that area, either.
     
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    Our teacher's lounge does not allow students by tradition rather than hard and fast rule. As such, there may be violators in the staff lounge furthest from the main part of the campus. (We have lounges in different parts of campus as it is quite large.) However, I am of the view that where I am dealing with confidential information (such a phone calls home to parents) students should not have access.

    I am not against children seeing their parents during the work day. Many people work in a particular school because they want proximity to their offspring. But in life, there is always the right time and the right place. :cool: (read: not the teacher lounge)
     

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