States that require the pledge

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  1. bandnerdtx

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    This post has been making the rounds on the walls of my Facebook "friends":

    I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER *GOD*, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!

    MY GENERATION GREW UP RECITING THIS EVERY MORNING IN SCHOOL WITH MY HAND ON MY HEART. THEY NO LONGER DO THAT FOR FEAR OF OFFENDING SOMEONE!

    LET'S SEE HOW MANY AMERICANS WILL RE-POST THIS AND NOT CARE ABOUT OFFENDING SOMEONE.


    Now, this is not the case in Texas. According to our state law, every public school must lead the students in reciting the US pledge, the Texas pledge (which had "under God" added to it in 2007) and have a moment of silence each day. Of course, students are NOT required to say it, but the school officials ARE required to lead it. I was wondering how many other states require schools lead students in the pledge each day. Which other states also say their state pledge?

    Here is our law:
    § 25.082. SCHOOL DAY; PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE; MINUTE OF
    SILENCE. (a) A school day shall be at least seven hours each day,
    including intermissions and recesses.
    (b) The board of trustees of each school district shall
    require students, once during each school day at each school in the
    district, to recite:
    (1) the pledge of allegiance to the United States flag
    in accordance with 4 U.S.C. Section 4, and its subsequent
    amendments; and
    (2) the pledge of allegiance to the state flag in
    accordance with Subchapter C, Chapter 3100, Government Code.
    (c) On written request from a student's parent or guardian,
    a school district shall excuse the student from reciting a pledge of
    allegiance under Subsection (b).
    (d) The board of trustees of each school district shall
    provide for the observance of one minute of silence at each school
    in the district following the recitation of the pledges of
    allegiance to the United States and Texas flags under Subsection
    (b). During the one-minute period, each student may, as the student chooses, reflect, pray, meditate, or engage in any other silent activity that is not likely to interfere with or distract another
    student. Each teacher or other school employee in charge of
    students during that period shall ensure that each of those
    students remains silent and does not act in a manner that is likely
    to interfere with or distract another student.
     
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    We are not required to say it but we do usually. If we don't say it, kids will ask why we didn't.
    The whole school does it at our spirit assemblies once a month. I have never heard a CA state pledge.
     
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    In DE, the teacher is required to lead the pledge, by penalty of jail time or a monetary fine. I am not sure about PA.
     
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    Our principal comes over the intercom and leads the building in the pledge. I do not force anyone to say it... in fact, I'm looking at the flag myself, thus, my back is to my students in purpose. I don't even see who says it, and who doesn't. That's irrelevant to me.
     
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    I don't remember it being mandatory in either PA school district I attended. The Pledge was read over the loudspeakers as the start of announcements and we were expected to either participate or be quiet. My history teacher for two years in a row was a staunch Marxist, so he sat quietly and graded papers during the Pledge.
     
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    Surely there are religious exceptions? That could bar people of certain religions from being teachers!

    It is not required in Louisiana. I do not require my students to say the pledge (led by students on the intercom) but I do require them to be quiet and respectful during that time. I face the flag and say the pledge, omitting the parts with which I do not agree.
     
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    We say it every single morning, followed by the Star-Spangled Banner on the morning announcements.
     
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    Here in NC we say it...my school it is student led on the intercom and I have had a few for religious reason don't say it, but they stand quietly during it. I stand and say it along with my students each day
     
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    I do the same. I will not say certain parts, for personal reasons, and I have never. My kids never noticed me not saying it during student teaching, nor did my supervising teacher because our Principal tends to be quite.... loud on the intercom.

    Anyway, we say the pledge and then have a moment of silence.

    I know I was quite appalled during my student teaching because my supervising teacher actually scolded a child after the moment of silence because said child refused to say the pledge that day. I don't agree with a part of it, but I am not going to force anyone to say it if they don't want to.
     
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    I don't know if it is a requirement, but we say the pledge each and every morning at my school!
     
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    I don't know if it is legally mandated, but my school says the Pledge, State Pledge (I believe this is choice, not required), and a moment of silence.
     
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    We don't say the pledge. We did when I taught elementary school though.
     
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    I am very much against the pledge being said in schools, and it is because of religious reasons (or lack thereof). But in my school the principal lead the pledge over morning announcements, and my current school is the same way. So I don't have to do it, and I don't say it. On the occasions that I do have to lead it, I just say "I pledge allegiance..." and let the students chime in. I figure I can "lead" it without saying it.

    For the record, I have never heard of that law being enforced in DE, and I am pretty sure if someone tried to, it wouldn't hold up in a DE court.
     
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    Thanks for the map link! So only five states say a state pledge. It figures Texas would be one. ;)

    When my neighbor's daughter was little (maybe 2nd grade), they took a trip to Colorado to visit family. They went to a local high school football game, and they began the game with everyone standing and saying the US pledge. After that, the little girl immediately launched into the Texas pledge because she thought that was what everyone said! :lol:

    For those of you curious...

    Honor the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to thee,
    Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.

    (The humorous part of the Texas pledge is that we actually *are* divisible in a more literal sense. The constitution allows us to be divided into 5 states if we ever choose to do so...)
     
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