So what might happen now?

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  1. Pi-R-Squared

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    The other math teacher at my school left. He taught some upper level classes. My P is having difficulty finding a new math teacher on such short notice and lack of available candidates. What if the P can’t find another math teacher to take his spot? Is there a chance I might “inherit” the classes that he taught?
     
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    I understand your concern. I do think that since it is July 23, your P will find a math teacher. Seen Ps have difficult finding teachers before. They always seem to find one before that bell rings on the 1st day of school.
     
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    Depending on who he finds, there may be a reassignment of classes, perhaps depending on the skill sets available between the two teachers. That is a real possibility, so no use worrying about it, but be prepared to be gracious and flexible if your teaching schedule is different from prior years. Isn't it just great to have seniority!
     
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    UPDATE: I’m at school working on a few things and the P tells me of a possible schedule change. On his computer, I see Alg II w/ Trig and PreCalc instead of 7th grade and 8th grade math. He told me he’s got 2 people to interview so it looks like a new math teacher will hired. But, his showing me the schedule change basically means that’s what I’ll be teaching, right?
     
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    No, that’s not what it means.

    In all my years of teaching, the master schedule was never finalized until the first day of school, and even after that we could expect at least a few changes. I suggest that you be patient and just wait until your supervising administrator tells you officially what your teaching assignment will be. Until then, they may just be playing around with different options and you can’t count on any of it.
     
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    If the person he hires doesn't seem like a good fit for the upper level classes then you might get them. It probably all depends on who they hire. You'll drive yourself nuts if you keep trying to overthink things. Either go ahead and ask the P or just be patient and wait.
     
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    When I came for an interview at my school years ago, I was interviewing for a first grade classroom position. Half way through the interview, they realized I was qualified as a reading specialist and that's what I was hired for. I showed up on the first teacher workday, and by the end of the day, I was assigned to be a fourth grade classroom teacher, lol. (Still at the same school now, but with a different grade level.)
    Agree with the others, no point in stressing out, things will probably change a few more times before the first day of school. Nothing is set in stone until then! Hopefully you end up with your preferred schedule.
     
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    I know a teacher who taught K for many yrs and 2 wks into a school yr, the P put her into 6th grade. It turned out K population was too low and 6th too high. I figure next yr a lot will change for people after they find out who will be homeschooling.
     
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    I was just thankful to have a job! And, I really ended up liking fourth grade and taught it for several years. Never ended up in a reading specialist position though, and that's ok with me.
     
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    Well, the best thing I could do is prepare as if I were to be getting the new classes. It’d be a good idea if I could actually answer PreCalc questions.
     
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    If I were in your position, Pi, I'd probably be doing some reviewing on Khan Academy, and trying to get a copy of the textbooks.
     
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    I spent most of my yrs in 3rd and 4th grade. 4th was my favorite grade level.
     
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    One time I applied for an ELA position in a middle school but halfway through the interview I found out they were interviewing me for a special ed position (I was certified in both). They just wanted to find someone to fit their needs.
     
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    2nd update: P says there is a possibility that he may have to hire someone “out of field” for the other math teacher.

    I’m assuming if that were to happen, I would more likely teach the upper levels? I just can’t see the P assigning pre-calc to a non-math certified. And does anyone else have out-of-field teachers in their building?
     
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    At the middle school I taught at, we sometimes had multiple subject (elementary) teachers teach math. Generally they were given the lower grades, 6th or 7th, and expected to get their math credential within a year.

    The high school I teach at now would not hire a non-math teacher to teach math. If your P hires someone "out of field", I would expect the teacher credentialed to teach math to be assigned Pre-Calc.
     
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    Well, I'd say welcome to high school! That will expand your horizons . . .
     
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    Do you want to teach those classes? Or would you rather not? I think either way you should let the principal know so that you have a greater chance of getting classes you want (or less of a chance getting those you don't want.)
     
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    This post reminds me I need to get on the ball to get my math certification.

    (Even though with my ESE/ASD experience, I will probably never see the inside of a math classroom except as a co-teacher). I agree with other posts, sometimes it's not the degree, but the needs.
     
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    I want to teach the upper math classes and am leaning heavily toward purchasing some supplemental material but don’t want to spend any money until I know for sure.
     
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    Will the upper math classes be new to you? If you haven't taught them before, are you sure about needing supplemental material or do you think you can wait to find out what they already have. You might be surprised and not have to purchase anything. Or they might let you order some stuff on their tab and you won't have to spend any $$ on your own.
     
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    The math isn't new per se but I haven't taught Alg II w/ Trig and PreCalc since my student-teaching days. Plus, there is no classroom set of textbooks for PreCalc so I might have to develop something if and when I am assigned that class. At least Alg II w/ Trig has a textbook so I can go chapter by chapter if I have to.
     
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    Talk to your principal about getting a classroom set of textbooks for PreCalc before spending your own money for them. You may be able to find used books for sale online if you don't need the newest books on the block. I have supplemented, at the schools expense, from used books for sale online. Even Ebay comes up with some stock.
     
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    I did go to the CO and asked about obtaining a set of PreCalc books. The precalc team leader in the county is deriving a pacing guide off an old book (2006) so CO is looking around for some. Funny thing this might be all for naught since I don’t know if I’m being assigned the class yet! And, referring to my other thread about Teachers Pay Teachers, I found a PreCalc curriculum from All Things Algebra that would really help me. Granted, I remember lots of stuff from my PreCalc days such as rational functions, trigonometry, partial fraction decomposition, etc.... but other stuff, I’ve forgotten like polar coordinates, parametric equations, graphing trig functions (shifts), binomial theorem, conics (latus rectum, foci, major/minor axis, eccentricity).....
     
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    It really is use it or lose it! True of many things in our lives.

    If you would prefer to teach the HS courses, I would suggest actually telling your principal that. Admin aren't mind readers, and being upfront about what would make you happy shows initiative, actual drive that he may find as an attractive trait. People who are willing to put themselves openly into the running for a new position or class choice show willingness to grow into a position, even though you may have to invest more time and effort to excel in the new direction. Otherwise, you seem content to just have no opinion or desire to grow in this job. You have tenure - he's not going to let you go for speaking up, and he might be impressed that you have considered all of the options and are willing to commit to growing as a teacher. You don't have to tell him that you've forgotten some things, because you will be telling him you are willing to work to make sure that you are fully ready to teach these classes, including putting in extra time as needed, so that you can grow as a teacher, challenging yourself, and your students - it is what every principal wants to hear as long as it is the truth. Honestly, I'm impressed that you are willing to take this chance to grow in your content knowledge - I've read your posts for a few years now, and I always thought that you were just grateful to have a job, but not overly anxious to take on new challenges. Please don't take that the wrong way - I just haven't ever thought that you wanted to take on more challenging courses or older students. I think this interest in teaching HS instead of MS is a sign of maturity and ambition, and it can't hurt to make those feelings known to your principal. Growing in your job, becoming a stronger teacher with more ambition, is something that could benefit you should you ever apply for jobs closer to home, should that be something that could take place. Color me impressed! :2cents:
     
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    I would use free resources online such as Khan Academy. They have a great pre calculus and AP Calculus (AB and BC) series. It helped me brush up and get up to speed in AP Physics C because I hadn't seen Calculus in nearly a decade and wanted a good free resource to review. (AP Physics C is Physics with Calculus.)
    There are also great YouTube channels like PatrickJMT that have very good content to help review. He does problems in all math topics.
     
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    How much does the TpT curriculum cost? I fill out a purchase order for anying I buy from there that's over $10. Some curriculums are over $100 so I would definitely ask if you could get reimbursed.
     
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    Wow! AP Physics C sounds fun AND difficult. I guess, with calculus, velocity is now ds/dt and acceleration is d^2s/dt^2 and integration goes the other way. You can teach electric fields (E dot dA) and magnetic fields (B dot dS) with integrals!!
     
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    P says I can purchase with my own money now and get reimbursed when teacher fee money comes in. With the sale at TpT, I think precalc comes to $168. (After taking 25% off)
     
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    I took advantage of the TpT sale and purchased the PreCalc curriculum after the P said I’d be reimbursed for it. So it looks like I will be teaching this after all. This will be an entirely new teaching year for me!
     

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