So Upset!

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  1. Beth2004

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    Yeah, he's been in a miserable mood. We had a meeting with him this morning about other issues and he was definitely on the attack. It was pretty bad...and completely not like him at all. I had wanted to talk to him about what I could be doing differently to try to get a job, but not with the mood that he's been in!
     
  2. JaimeMarie

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    LOL don't blame you Beth. Stay as far away as possible. Is there a teacher on the interview committee you feel comfortable talking to? Maybe that could give you some pointers?
     
  3. Beth2004

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    I've thought about it, but I don't want anyone to feel as though I'm putting them on the spot.
     
  4. JaimeMarie

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    That is understandable. I was lucky last year and was close enough with one of the interviewers so I just ask for pointers!
     
  5. JGonza25

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    Hi, I understand your frustration because I am kind of in the same position. I just graduated in December and I have been working as a full-time sub in a fourth grade class since April. I was hoping to be offered a position for this coming fall but I wasn't. I understand that my district is dealing with some budget "discrepancies" therefore positions have been cut. But, I thought that with all that I have done and the extreme circumstances in which I was brought into the classroom I would assume that the principle would at least point me in the right direction to help me find a full-time position for the fall.
     
  6. kidatheart

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    Beth, I am so sorry that this situation has happened to you. I think another post stated my thought... once a district finds a reliable sub, they want to keep them in that position - nevermind that the sub wants a full time job/classroom!!
    I subbed for 2 years, including a long term sub position - never got anywhere with the job search. Now that I'm trying again, I'm a little leery about subbing again. Am I crazy???
     
  7. MissFrizzle

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    kidatheart- no your'e not crazy to want to go back and sub again. We all grapple with the same situation. You can never tell which district will hire their subs and which would rather retain their good subs - only as subs. I would definitely sub again if I could do it financially, but right now it's impossible. I need my steady income. Hang in there.
     
  8. Beth2004

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    I had a feeling that maybe they wanted to keep me around as a sub, but they will soon find out that I am not keeping myself on their sub list after this school year is over. There are several districts (closer to my house!) that pay $15-$20 more a day and those are the places where I will be subbing next year if I don't have a permanent position.
     
  9. MissFrizzle

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    Good for you Beth!!!
     
  10. Lesley

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    Good for you Beth in looking to sub else where! You have been working hard and they don't appreciate your efforts enough!
     
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    Dear Beth
    I know how you feel. Dont take all those into heart. Everything happens for good.God might have something very good in store for you.
    Stay cool ;)
     
  12. AspieTeacher

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    I would suggest relocating.

    Beth,

    I think it's terrible that a person's GPA is being used at the sole evaluative purpose of future teacher's ability to teach children. The principal where you work made a mistake not giving you a chance for even an interview. Do you have a teacher's Union where you could find out what the next step would be? I would also suggest that you search somewhere else if possible. They have already made it clear that they have their mind made up on what kind of people they want to hire. After subbing full-time for two years in South Texas, I decided to relocate and look somewhere else. I applied at every inner-city area in Texas. I applied in San Antonio, Houston, Austin, Dallas, Fort Worth, Brownsville, Harlingen and the outlying districts. I'm a SPECIAL EDUCATION teacher who was fully credentialed, but didn't have any previous experience. I applied with LACOE (Los Angeles County Office of Education) in Downey, CA and was given a telephone interview. I did rather well on the interview and the assistant principal called me about two weeks later offering me a full-time teaching position. I was floored! My parents helped me with the paper-work before I was officially employed. This took about a week or so. Later, I became a full time teacher with them. I've been in my current position for almost seven years now and I just completed my Clear Education Specialist Credential in CA. I agree with our colleagues that you will find something better somewhere else.

    Troy in Downey, CA
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  13. Beth2004

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    I'm only a long-term sub so the teacher's union wouldn't be much help to me.
    I'm really hoping that I'm able to find something. I have applied to several positions that have been posted in 10 other districts since February...so I'm definitely looking other places!
     
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    Chin up. I hate to be yet another person to say "This is meant to be..." But I've got to. I've subbed for 4 years (while trying for jobs on and off the full 4 years). This last year has been my best year of subbing. If I'd had a full time job I couldn't have taken time off to go to Mississippi to do Katrina Relief work like I did (best experience of my life!). I also got to cover a 3rd grade maternity leave and learned a lot from the teacher about how I will organize and run my classroom. Two areas I know I really needed help in. I also got an incredible new reference from the principal at that school which landed me a job in K for the remainder of the school year (a grade I really wouldn't have chosen--but am finding I can teach). Right after I was offered the job the principal gushed about the nice reference I'd gotten. This K job has gotten me an actual hired position to put on my resume (and hopefully another principal's reference) and an incredible network of great teachers who really want to help me. I'm really hoping I can get a job at my current school next year but things are still completely up in the air right now. I have an interview for 1st grade at a school my staff says is a good school on Tuesday. I know things suck now but they will get better. If you are a Bible reader read the story of Joseph especially Genesis 50:19-20 (my Bible study group studied Genesis this year). I found it to be a real blessing.
     
  15. MissFrizzle

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    Viola- good for you. It's nice to put a positive spin on things and see the good in a bad situation. Like you said, everything ultimately works out, hang in there Beth. We are rooting for you.
     
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    Actually I'm just so at peace right now--this kind of peace can only come from God! Sorry (sort of;) ) to get preachy but it's really true. If I don't get a job next year I'll be disappointed but I know that I can always learn more and that I can survive on sub pay.
     
  17. MissFrizzle

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    I have kind of adopted a similar attitude... If I don't get a job in Sep. I will be disappointed, but my current job is good, I have flex time, and I have opportunities to use this time wisely by going to conferences, etc. In a way I think it's part of God's plan for me.. but I know I'll eventually get to teaching when my time is right. In the meantime, I'm just recharging my batteries.:)
     
  18. ViolaSwamp

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    Sorry for hijacking. I'm still thinking about you Beth!
     
  19. swsmith63

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    I hear you. Strong content knowledge does not mean strong pedagogy. I feel like they let you down...
     
  20. munchkin

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    Beth, so sorry to hear that those administrators were sooo short sighted. Maaybe that candidate had more polictical pull than you, or just more dirt that she could of exposed.
    Its hard not to be negative toward someone that "took" the job you were doing so well, but there's got to be a reason from a higher authority than that idiot principal. Time will tell.
    You sound so talented, and very versatile, I just know that you'll get something soon. I hope we all do. Then maybe we could each have a celebratory drink/icecream cone and toast each other over the internet. GOOD LUCk to us all.
    munchkin
     
  21. swsmith63

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    Hear, hear! I'm all for celebrating over ice cream!!! Plus...this may be a good time now for you to be assertive and ask why you were replaced by untried teachers. What do you have to lose by asking???
     

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