So many differences in start/end times for elementary schools

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  1. Pisces_Fish

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    My current school day is 7:40 to 3:10. This includes 30 minutes recess and 25 min lunch. I was going through some old binders, and saw that my student teaching schedule was 8:30-2:25. This included 25 min for lunch and 25 min recess.

    Add that time up over the course of a year, and that's alot of instructional time!
     
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    Wow! Do your kids start at 7:40? Our bell rings at 7:45 for the kids to get off the buses and come into the building. They have till 8:15 to get to their rooms, get breakfast, go to the restroom, etc. for their morning routine. This year we will start right at 8:15 because of the schedule it'll be hard to start later. Our bus call at the end of the day is at 2:45 and most of the kids are gone by 3:00. The teachers are allowed to leave by 3:35 but we have to be present in the morning by 7:35.
     
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    My morning work period is 7:40 to 8:00. Most of my kids are in my room by 7:50. The tardy bell rings at 8:00. It really is a long day.
     
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    I am currently at a prep school and we go from 8:15-3:00. Really by the time the kids come on and pack up time we go from 8:30-2:45. We have 25 min for lunch and 30 for recess, not to mention the crazy amount of enrichment classes we have. Everyday my enrichment classes are at different times. Hopefully next year they will get us on a block schedule of some sort.
     
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    In my school, students are to be picked up by 7:35 and we begin around 8:05. We have lunch for 20 minutes and recess is usually20 minutes. Students are dismissed at 2:30 and teachers are allowed to leave at 3:00.
     
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    Last year student contact time began at 7:05 and dismissal at 2:00. This year we start at 7:15, same dismissal.
     
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    I am all for extending the school day. We start instruction at 9:10 and end at 3:10 with 40 minutes for lunch and recess. Plus we have the extra specials of computer ed. and Spanish once a week (in addition to music, art, gym and library.)
     
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    Our instructional day is from 8:05-2:35 with a 30-minute recess and 1-hour lunch--300 instructional minutes.
     
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    We start at 8:30. K-2 ends at 1:45, 3-5 ends at 2:45

    There is a 20 minute recess, and a 50 minute lunch.

    K-2 - 240 instructional minutes
    3-5 - 300 instructional minutes
     
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    We start at 8:00, 30 minute lunch, 10-15 minute recess, and dismiss at 3:05
     
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    A lot of the differences can be accounted for in contract negotiations...In my district we've increased student contact time by about 15 minutes over the past several negotiations and added about 10 minutes of additional teacher work time plus an extra day of meetings/professional development...We fight every negotiation to keep our hour duty-free lunch (1/2 hour recess and 1/2 hour lunch for kids). Our 'specials' time (planning/prep time for classroom teachers) is actually INCREASING next year due to scheduling.
     
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    My contract hours are from 7:30-2:30.

    The school day begins at 7:55 and the kids are dismissed at 2:05. That includes a 30 minute lunch and a 35 minute special area time. We also have a 30 minute "activity block" which can be recess or your own physical activity time/health studies.
     
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    Ours used to be 9:00-3:30 which for us not-morning people was wonderful!! But now the bell rings at 7:45 and again at 2:30!
     
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    Teachers have to be there at 8:30, kids at 9:00..all of us can leave at 2:45.
    This is with a 20 min duty-free lunch and 5 prep periods a week.
    Not bad.
     
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    We were 7:00-2:45, but now going back to 7:00-1:45. Definetely pros and cons for this.:unsure:
     
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    Our school hours are 9:05-3:35. I'm pretty sure my contract time is from 8:10 until school lets out or at 3:45. I'll have to double check that sometime. =) I'll probably end up being atleast an 8-4er every day.
     
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    Get this - we have 7:45-3:15 - mon, tues, thurs, fri and 12:45 dismissal on Wed. (for the kids, we are there until at least 3:30 doing prof. devel. or faculty meetings). Not only do parents have to arrange for someone to pick up early on Weds but I do agree that lost time adds up. They think and extra 15 mins at the end of the day each day will do it.
     
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    The buses arrive for 7:20 in the morning, but only the duty teachers have to be there for 7:25, others have to be there for 7:45 and the bell rings for 7:55 in the morning and school ends at 3:00. We are allowed to leave at 3:10 which rarely happens for me.
     
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    Tardy bell rings at 7:50 and dismissal at 3:25. The kids have a 50 minute recess/lunch period, 45 minutes of PE and 4 other 45 minutes of specials during the rest of the week.
     
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    Our contract hours are 7:45-4:00. Kids are let in the door at 7:50, breakfast starts at 7:55, first official bell is at 8:20. Then kids dismiss at 3:20. We have one hour total for lunch and recess, but have at least half an hour of duty daily during that time.

    When I subbed in Missouri, some schools didn't start until 9:00 and we were still done at 3:35. Hard to adjust to the longer school day when I came back to Wisconsin.
     
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    scooter, that is a very long day. Do you teach at a charter school?
     
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    Kids arrive at 7:45 in the morning and we start getting ready for dismissal around 2:50. Official dismissal time is 3:15 but kids are gone on the bus around 3:00 or so. We get a 30 minute lunch, an hour of related arts a day (phys. ed, music, art) have computer lab for 30 minutes twice a week (this has nothing to do with our union, just with our principal and the fact that we have a Title I/computer teacher--there are even some other Title I schools here who don't have one) and 15 minute recess on days we don't have phys. ed. With TN kids being rated some of the most obese in the nation I wish that there was a mandate for recess or phys. ed to be offered more frequently. There was a bill passed to include 90 minutes of physical activity a week, but of course that bill was an unfunded mandate with no extra phys. ed teachers hired, no additional moneys/resources given, or the school lunch nutrition even considered. We are encouraged to go on a short walk with the children on the days that we can, due to the mandate, which is nice, but it's nothing that will really make a difference. Czacza, I really admire your union for fighting for recess (and for an hour lunch for you guys--I can't imagine that. Does someone else watch the children at recess? Do you live in the Northeast as I have heard unions there are much more potent?) I don't think our union would ever include recess in negotiations, but you know, I think I am going to bring up the subject!

    Btw, someone mentioned that they "sold their prep"--what does that mean exactly? It is very interesting reading this thread!
     
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    I'm feeling you on this one! We had to be there by 6:45 at the latest...kids could come in at 7. Dismissed at 2:45...we could leave at 3:15.That's 7 hrs. 45 mins. with kids.

    We do have early start and late start schools because we are such a large school system.
     
  25. loves2teach

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    We start at 8:20 and go home at 3:20. Duty free lunch also.
     
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    At my last two schools the day started at 7:30 and ended at 5. I was at school from 6:45-5:30 usually. Both schools were extended-day charter schools.

    I am now at an 8-3 school beginning in August!
     
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    sign in 7:25
    kids arrive 7:35

    kids dismissed 2:15
    sign out 2:25
     
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    Our district has three different starting times for elementary schools, called staggers. This way the same buses and bus drivers can be used over and over.

    Student hours for first stagger schools are from 7:50am - 2:10pm
    Student hours for second stagger schools are from 8:20am - 2:45pm
    Student hours for third stagger schools are from 9:00am - 3:25pm .

    I work at a 3rd stagger school. Our students get half an hour for lunch and 15 minutes for recess. We have a 30 minute duty-free lunch, but must each supervisor our own class for recess. However, because the school is large, once you get the students to the cafeteria, it may take you 5 minutes to get back to your class, and 5 more minutes to return to pick them up on time, so it is really like a 20 minute lunch.

    Our school doesn't officially start until 9:00am, but we have to start teaching at 8:30 am. Since the teacher start time is time is 8:20, unless you come in early on your own time (which I do) you only have 10 minutes of prep time in the morning, and none really afterschool, because we get back from bus duty after our official leaving time.

    Our students are in specials for 45 minutes each day, but two-three of those days, we have mandatory meetings, so we can't do any planning then either. The other two days, we have to run around like crazy to get things done. Even though we have 45 minutes, those minutes start when we drop our students at their specials -- and all of them are in the far corners of the school. It takes 5 minutes to get back to your classroom or copy room, so deduct 10 minutes if you don't have to use the bathroom, and you end up with 35 minutes about twice a week for prep.

    I come in about 2 hours early each morning to make sure I'm ready. I'd come in earlier, but that is when the custodian opens the building and turns off the alarms. That's okay -- I'm a morning person anyway.
     
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    We start at 7:45 and are dismissed at 2:45. Kindergarten and first grade are dismissed at 2:30. We have a 30 minute lunch and kindergarten has a 20-30 minute recess and 1-5 has a 15-20 minute recess.
     
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    Our school goes from 8:30 until 3:00pm. Kids arrive beginning at 8:00 am, but the school day doesn't begin until 8:30.

    When I ST, we went from 9:00-3:58.
     
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    My day: 7:30 - 4:00

    Kids day: 7:45-3:00

    last year I had duty free lunch but administration has taken that away this year. :(
     
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    buses arrive at 7:45. bell rings at 8:15. we dismiss officially at 3:15 but they start calling at 3. we have 35 minutes of recess and 30 minutes for lunch. Last year, we alternated duty in the cafeteria. this year, I'll have duty every day. ew.
     
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    My last job was 8:30 - 2:15 with a 15 minutes recess and a 45 minute lunch. I had two duties one at recess and one in the morning from 8:10 until the start of school. Teachers here never have to supervise at lunch.
     
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    My contract hours are 8:30 - 4 and school goes from 8:55-3:30. We have a 45 minute prep each day along with a 1/2 hour lunch and a 1/2 hour recess. However, our students eat in the classroom and so we are 'on duty' at that time.
     
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    Last year we went from 8:10 to 2:45. 40 min. lunch and two 20 min. recesses. 285 instructional minutes. No preps or specials.

    There might be a rule about teachers being on site 30 minutes before and after school, but it's not enforced. If your work is done, you can go home.
     
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    What do they do from 7:35 to 8:05?
     
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    Our kids go 9:00-4:10 everyday. I have to arrive 10 min before and stay 10 min after.
    I get a duty free 40 min lunch daily and 220 planning min each week.
    Is everyone else noticing that the year seems to be getting longer too, or is it just me? I have to report back on August 10 and don't get out until after Memorial Day in May.
     
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    Our contract hours are 8:00-3:05, with the school day starting at 8:15 and ending at 3:00. We have an hour lunch-30 minutes to eat, 30 recess-but it is duty free for the teachers.
     
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    We were 8:40-3 last year. Morning duty started at 8:15, afternoon until the last bus came about 3:20. Duties were assigned about one week out of every four. We could leave once the kids were all dismissed if we didn't have afternoon duty with the understanding that if parents requested a meeting directly after school we had to comply. We're switching to 7:50 to 2:20 next year. I'm excited about getting done earlier in the day!
     
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    No, this is a public school. I grew up in this district, and never realized that we had longer days until I spent those few years subbing in Missouri.

    Also, after reading more of these posts, I'm jealous of the amount of prep time some of you get. My kids have a 30 minute special (music or PE) four days a week and one day they have art for 60 minutes. I wish we had 45 minutes of prep every day.
     
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    about 2 or 3 yrs ago, our prep increased to 45 minutes. We have 25 mins for lunch, but we eat with our students. Recess is about 25 mins total~10 in morning and 15 in afternoon
     

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