So here's what they did to our rooms this summer

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  1. Sarge

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    They had to clean them. That included shampooing carpets.

    To do that, they had to move all the furniture to one side, clean half the carpets, and move all the furniture to the other side and do the other side.

    Then the cleaning crews left.

    They did not move the furniture back.

    I asked our custodian and he said the district is not paying for custodians to move the furniture back. Teachers have to do that themselves. He may have time to help.

    Is this normal? Were we just spoiled over the years of having janitorial staff replace furniture they moved when cleaning?
     
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    Well I know that everything inside of our rooms that is not bolted down is moved into the halls when the room is cleaned. Everyone says you're very lucky if you get your things back.

    I had to box and label everything in June before leaving (even though it wasn't my stuff) because we were not only having our rooms cleaned, but switched as well. I'm interested to see what is left tomorrow LOL.

    So I think you were definitely spoiled. lol
     
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    Well when I came back everything was in the same place... And still is, since it is stuck to the floor. They don't move anything out at all, they just wax around it. I cannot tell you how many tiles we broke when I moved student desks around this year.
     
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    They move all of our stuff into the halls to wash and wax the floors. Sometimes they wait until the wax is completely dry before they pile it all back in. Sometimes they don't and things are stuck to the floor like the PP said. This year, they waited until the floor was dry and moved things back in. They had asked for a diagram, which I drew on the chalk board. This year they actually followed mine. Apparently I was one of few lucky ones in that aspect this year. Normally we have to go hunt for our items. I haven't come up with anything missing... yet.
     
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    Ours move everything and then replace it in the classroom. The janitor for my wing even tried to place everything back where it had been (w/o a picture). She stopped by and even asked me if it was ok, and did she get it right.

    I personally think it is part of their job. They are responsible for summer cleanup, and they should put the furniture back into classrooms. They should also be available to help move the heavy things. I couldn't do it alone.
     
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    You are lucky. You get clean rooms!! ha ha
    Our stuff is moved all over the place. He says he will put it back but never does. It is kind of a game of chicken. He waits us out and we freak because we want out rooms ready before school starts. I think he waits until the last second to rearrange the furniture but by that time we have already done it.
     
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    I have NEVER had furniture moved back into their places, but I like experimenting on my own, anyhow.
     
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    Sarge, that is how it is every year for me. I have to move everything back myself. :(
     
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    Okay, I have have to vent. In June, I cleaned my room, wiped down the tables, stacked the chairs, put everything away to get ready for the Facilities Crew to clean. I swept the floor and emptied the trash. My room was spotless.

    Last week the church used my classroom for Vacation Bible School.

    I went to my class today and it is dirtier then it was when I left in June. Everything is pushed to one side. The trash is overflowing with fruit flies circling, the floor is filthy, tables have crayon scribbles on them. I have 2 weeks until school starts!

    I would have been thrilled to move my furniture around a clean room today. I had to move it around a smelly, filthy room.

    The Facilities Secretary called to ask when I was leaving so they could clean. I left at 4:00 in a foul mood.

    :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
     
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    I got into my room this afternoon for the first time, and I'm pleased to say the rugs look great and the desks are in more or less the right places.

    I also found out the entire administrative line-up, and I think we're going to have a great year! The one opening has been filled by a former teacher from our school who was a BTSA consultant the past two years. This is the best administrative team we've ever had - I'm thrilled.
     
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    I have to put everything up on the back counter and in the closets at the end of the year. My furniture pretty much ended up in the right spot but they managed to lose one of the pegs that hold up the shelf in my bookcase. Not sure how to fix that one.
     
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    At my daughters school the classrooms are 1/2 laimnate tile and 1/2 carpet. The janitor moves all the furniture off the carpets and cleans all the carpets in all the rooms. Then goes back and moves all the furniture back onto the carpets and cleans and waxes the laminate tile. Then he puts the classrooms back as close as he can. I watch him every summer when I take my daughter to summer camp. It takes him 9 weeks to do it to 30 classrooms.
     
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    We had a summer school course at our school so we were told to put all of our items in boxes and big items in the corner and tape butcher paper around it. They told us to lock all of our closets to keep the summer school kids out.
    I went up to my room yesterday to get something and the cleaning people had taken everything outside of the closets and disinfected and put everything back in. My closets are now very organized thanks to the cleaning crew :)
     
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    Wow- I now feel even more fortunate to teach where I do. In June as we pack up, we draw a map of how we want our classroom arranged. Custodians move everything into the hallway (one classroom at a time to prevent mixing items), wax the floors (so shiny!!), steam clean the carpets and then move everything back in according to your map. I even got my room painted last year as part of the cleaning process and everything was back where I wanted it.. It's awesome.
     
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    You can buy them at Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. There are some that are round on one side and sort of flat on the other. I guess that's so you can use them either way. I had to replace some of mine this year, too.
     
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    We clean up our classrooms in June and pack up all our belongings into labeled boxes. The custodians bring everything into the hallways to wax the floors. When everything is dry, they bring everything back in and arrange it how it was. If we want anything to be rearranged, we just draw out a map for them. Sometimes things go missing, but for the most part, everyone is happy.
     
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    Usually there isn't a problem, but this year was a mess. I don't blame them, though. Two fifth grade classes moved to other rooms in the same hallway, music room moved out of hallway to another one, 3 fourth grade classes moved into the hallway from out in the portables, 3 first grade classes moved down the hallway to the first grade section......

    There was furniture piled everywhere in the hallway. I put painter's tape on everything that was mine and got almost all of my things back, but they just didn't have time to arrange the classrooms.

    They did help move the heavy things around, though, when I came back.
     
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    at our school, it's pretty much every man for himself and God for us all, lol. We get done in June. You stay a day or two more cleaning out the room. (I had to stay an extra day so that I could finally clean out all the C-R-A-P that I inherited from the previous teachers). I cleaned out my locker (each classroom has one locker for teacher use), my desk, my filing cabinet and my bookshelves. I took down all the decorations put them on the bookshelves and covered it with butcher paper. Then I left.

    We have the district's summer school at my school so the janitors can't clean or wax until about 3 weeks before school. They tell you to put your name on anything you want back, so I printed out labels and put them on my desk, my chair, my filing cabinet, my podium, my supply table, my supply drawers, etc. The janitors then pull everybody's everything out of the classroom and push EVERYTHING down to the end of the hall and wax all the classrooms and the hall. Then they put "everything" back, but it's a pretty good chance, even with the labels, that not everything will make it back to your classroom and you will have to put out a "milk carton" e-mail.

    I walked into my classroom for the firs time today since I left in early June and I'll my furniture had been pushed into the far west corner of the room. So I had to move everything back, including arranging the chairs, the table and recruiting another teacher to help me move my desk. The only thing the janitors help with are the file cabinets, which are generally accepted as too heavy for the female teachers to move, and the furniture you want removed from your classroom. That's the accepted practice.
     
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    Wow for the people who get there stuff put back. At my school in May we have to put 100 percent of everything away and our secretary comes in with a checklist. When I re enter in August, I have to move all my furniture, carpets ect. back into place. The only thing they put back is our filing cabinets. Then they make a little note on the bb please do not drag anything on the floor. So I drag my poor hubby in to help me move the heavy stuff.
     
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    Ours piles up half the room, cleans, then piles everything up on the other half to do the remaining side. So when we walk in carpet is rolled up, tables stacked and inevitably the arrangement I have in my head means I have to move everything opposite of where it was left. I am glad they clean and wax, but that first day back is a lot of gruntwork moving furniture.
     
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    I have never had a "back to school" time that didn't involve moving furniture back into my room and arranging it back into it's original spots. Not in 15 years.
    Kim
     
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    This is exactly how mine is left each year.
    I have my husband and a few friends help me push it all back :mad:
     
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    I'm another one who has to move everything back into place. I like it, though because I re arrange everythign every year. :)

    Sometimes I even have to go searching throughout the building to find what's mine because it's migrated to other classrooms.
     
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    I would first speak with an administrator. As a teacher, you are not required to move furniture. That falls under the job description of custodial and maintenance.

    If you do not get anywhere with the administration, I'd contact a representative for your local association. That is ridiculous that they are trying to tell teachers to move things back. It almost sounds like there is some underlying issue there. Whatever the case, don't touch it until you talk to your association.
     
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    We always have to move our furniture back and usually move to one side of the room on the last day of school. Our regular custodians clean our building. That's what I'm going to go and finish up today. I noticed my teacher chair is missing!!:mad:
     
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    I worked in a Christian school for years that was housed in a church. Great school, great church, great place to work, but we had to move our furniture every WEEK. Yes, I only had about a dozen children's desks, but I hauled them to one side every Friday, and had to haul them back Monday morning. Our middle school had far more, and larger, desks, and since for a couple of years they used a large, multipurpose room, they had to move everything. I hated it, and I'm sorry for you, but yes, definitely spoiled! :)
     
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    All the desks were moved to one side of the room.

    Half were upright. Half were upside down on top of the other half.

    All other items - trash cans, chairs, boxes, etc was on top of the upside down desks.

    Anything that didn't fit was on the floor.

    Every single flat surface in the classroom was covered with stuff.

    I had placed a bunch of heavy items on a table that rolled. They took all the heavy stuff off the table that rolled and put it on the floor. Then they put the table that rolled in the corner with a desk on top of it.

    I would have been less work for me if they had said "This summer, we want you to move the furniture yourself, rent a carpet cleaner, do the carpets and then move it back"
     
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    I have never in my 23 plus years of teaching (3 schools) had to move any type of furniture back into my room. At the end of summer each classroom teacher labels desks, bookcases, bookshelves, etc. and posts a map as to how they want their room set up. The custodians do their best to follow it. This year I happened to be at school when they were moving my furniture back in. One custodian (whom I had taught) stayed with me and helped me to rearrange because I had some new ideas. First and foremost my union would never put up with teachers having to move furniture into their room or setting up furniture that had been pushed to one side. Plus, why would I want to take the chance of hurting myself. I couldn't make a claim against the school because I am not supposed to be moving the furniture.
     
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    I went to my school yesterday and was very pleased to see how clean my room was. Everything is back where I had it except for one, tall file cabinet that has been put near the back of the room in the exact spot I wanted to have it moved to. Pretty nice. I never even asked and their error was perfect. I was looking through my cabinets though, and I really feel that I need to get rid of a lot of extras like books and other materials I have never used. When I say "get rid of" I mean box it up and bring it home to the basement. I just don't see myself needing it this year but I don't want to give it away. That stuff cost money!
     
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    Wow, I thought it was standard practice to have to move our own furniture around. We move everything to the center of our rooms the custodians wax our floors and move everything back to the center of the rooms. It is our responsibility to move it where we want it according to how we think it best to set up our classrooms. I've never heard of any of the teachers I work with complain about having to move all our furniture by ourselves.
     
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    Good to see you kinderkids!!

    Our janitor gets started almost as soon as the teacher are gone moving the furniture to the hall and washing/waxing the floors. If he knows where the big stuff was he tries to put it back in the same place. Student desks just get grouped together in the middle of the room. This year I change rooms, and I hadn't decided where to my desk, etc. so it was just kind of left up front. I had to track him down this week to move the desk and file cabinets for me.
     
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    Wow, I guess we don't know how well we have it until we hear other stories. Our custodians do 5-6 rooms at a time so that the halls aren't just packed with stuff. They number each item in the room with a piece of masking tape and make a diagram that they put on the door. They move everything out and scrub and wax the floors. They do three coats and it must cure between coats so it usually takes 4-5 days. Everything is moved back in and put where it belongs. As they move furniture back in, they dust and clean it up. I work during the summer so I was here when there were putting my room back. That made it easier for them because I helped and made sure everything was where I wanted it. They can't do some of the elementary and junior high classrooms until after summer school is finished in late June, so those are saved until later. This year they even cleaned all of the light fixtures in the rooms. I have really high ceilings, so they had to bring the lift into my room for that.
     
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    Every summer our maintenance/janitorial staff clears rooms, touches up pain, cleans carpets, and replaces furniture based on individual teachers (they take pics before moving things out and replace according to pics). Every item they remove is logged and double checked when it is returned - and teachers get a copy of the log so that if something is missing, they can see if it might have been an oversight by the custodians. Everything is cleaned and sterilized. I have pillows for silent reading time and they deep clean the pillows over the summer (our female custodian also adds/replaces batting if the pillows are getting a little flat). All of this is done in addition to the maintenance that they do for the school itself. I don't know what to say except I am incredibly spoiled at work. To be fair though, we do try really hard to spoil our maintenance staff right back.
     
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    In June, we are given a checklist of things that need to be done. Some of the items you have to get the initials of the person in charge of that (like returning textbooks to the librarian or all checked out tech is returned). One of the items is to label all the items in your room. During the summer the custodial staff moves it into the hall, cleans our rooms, then puts the stuff back into the room in a pile. We are responsible for arranging our rooms. Teachers who can't move stuff because of one reason or another come get the rest of us to help. We all help each other out and it does not take too long. In years past, we didn't even get our rooms cleaned due to budget cuts, so we are happy to have that done. Our custodians are great about helping us if we ask.
     
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    My room was totally remodeled this summer...the last time I saw it the insulation was being put in and the electrical had just been completed. I had to be careful about falling through the holes in the floor! I am so worried about going back on Monday...if the room isn't finished I'm going to cry.

    The good things about this are that I will now have electrical outlets on each wall and there will be built-in cubbies for backpacks and lunches. That, however, is not worth having to pack up the entire classroom. At least I don't have to move things back.
     
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    It could be worse....not only do we have to move the furniture back after the carpet is shampooed, we have to move it out in the first place (no janitorial staff at all). One year they even wanted us to bring in carpet shampoo-ers from home and do the whole building ourselves. I also have to run the sweeper in my room and the shared areas at the end of every day.
     
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    Is this a public school? Are these jobs stated in your contract? If you had brought in your shampooer and it broke would they have bought you a new one? Did they provide you with a sweeper? I have a hard time comprehending that some educators are required to do this type of work.
     
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    No, a Head Start program. At least I don't have to clean the bathrooms! I didn't take my shampoo -er in. It bothers my back to do it at home- they are heavy! There is no way I would have done it in our big building! I don't mind running the sweeper, except for all the time I spend doing it. I draw the line at toilets though! :)
     
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    They do this to us every year! The P even asks for a classroom map to put furniture back, but they never do. I am just thankful to have a clean room.
     
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    We never have it moved back. In fact it is our job to move it to one side of the room before they come. We have to move desks into the hall and chairs into the hall before they clean carpets or paint. They move the desks into the room, but just pile them in the door way.
     

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