Should people with epilepsy teach?

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  1. a2z

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    No, ADA doesn't say that. ADA says if a person can perform all of the duties of the job with reasonable accommodations they are not to be discriminated against by having the job withheld.

    It really all comes down to how severe the epilepsy is at this time and how much does it interfere with her doing the job she will be tasked to do with reasonable accommodations. "Reasonable accommodations" change from job to job.
     
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    And I see it in this light. Children learn by experience. The day will come when something scary will happen. This is life. It may be an accident, a relative getting hurt or killed or even worse. Seeing a seizure can be mild compared to many things. This is can be lesson about human beings. Things will never be perfect. I bet many of those parents would trade that scary killer at school for a few seizures. But the key is teaching them that this could happen, what it looks like (role play or a video) and then what to do.
    I could see badly burned person or with an other deformity wanting to teach. That may be scary initially but I find children better at adjusting than many adults. Should a teacher be in there that faints at the sight of blood?
     
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    What a choice! Yeah, I bet you are right that parents if given that choice they would choose their child seeing an epileptic seizing rather than having an active shooter in the school. Is this choice really supposed to convince anyone that it is ok for an uncontrolled epileptic to be teaching?

    It isn't just about being scary though. I keep asking OP about how controlled the epilepsy is, but she won't answer. It is about how often the illness interrupts teaching, student learning, and having a support staff not be able to be in the classroom. If every couple of weeks the OP is having grand mal seizures, that becomes an issue even if the kids understand that it is nothing to be afraid of. If the OP has too many absence seizures such that it impacts her ability to perform the job because she misses things while they are happening, it becomes a problem.
     
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    I wasn't really addressing an "uncontrolled epileptic" but whether scary was a good reason to keep them out. I was being dramatic about scary as in shooter or seizure but I still think scary is part of growing up.
     
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    I've had non-epileptic seizures my entire life, and I've been a teacher for over 20 years. I've had 2 seizures in front of students, and they all survived it just fine.

    Like others have said, firstly, don't mention it in your interviews. You are legally protected just like anyone with a heart condition, cancer, etc. Secondly, prep your kids at the beginning of the year and let them know what can happen and how you need them to respond. They'll be able to handle it. Even the little ones...

    It's amazing to me that some people actually think this would be an issue. Epilepsy is not leprorsy. It's not contagious, it's fairly common, and it's perfectly okay for someone to be afraid the first time they see someone have a seizure. They'll be fine, and maybe they'll learn some compassion.
     
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    In my opinion, if there is any real risk of a person having a seizure, it would inappropriate for that person to each alone. Perhaps with an aide, but leaving a class unsupervised with a teacher having an imminent health risk, and one that can traumatic to watch, is inappropriate. I'm not sure how to measure or define someone as "seizure-free," but I would guess that having such a status would be important before placing the safety of children in one's care.
     
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    Please don't tell the children and then inform the parents. Tell the parents first so they can talk to their children first if they so decide. Some parents may want to approach their children in a certain way regarding this issue.

    Also, as a parent I would be very concerned if my child brought their version of your information home, and I am standing there with no idea of what they are talking about. I say this because kids don't always go home with the understanding that we want them to have.
     
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    There was a sub in my school who had an epileptic seizure once while teaching. I think I was in middle school at the time. It wasn't in my class, but I remember hearing about it and how a student just pushed the call button for the office. Kids are resourceful, and after all, any of us could be incapacitated at any time given the wrong situation.
     
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    For me personally, I have seizures every 12-15 months, with severity varying from a seizure where I know what is happening, but my vision is very obscured and I need to sit down to full blown convulsive gran mal seizure. The former is more common than the latter (the latter has occurred once, in 1996). I've had around 20 seizures since 2005, with 18 of them being my vision obscured & needing to sit down and rest (along with taking half a pill of my meds). Two of them involved a loss of consciousness. There's no known trigger for my seizures and I never have any forewarning as to when a seizure will occur.

    When I am in the classroom, I will make sure that the school nurse knows about my epilepsy, along with seeing if the nurse would want my emergency medications which can stop a seizure (One of them is so strong it has a risk of stopping my breathing)
     
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    I had a teacher in high school who had epilepsy. She informed us all on the first day and let us know exactly what to do for her and how to call the office etc.... Kids are smart and resourceful. Even in elementary, they would be able to go next door for help if needed.
     
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    One time an overhead light fell onto my teacher's head and knocked her out cold. What did my classmates and I do? Immediately ran for help. Another time a teacher fainted. What did we do? We ran for help.
    Even the youngest of children will know to get help in case of an emergency.

    to the OP.... if you want to teach, and believe that you will be a good teacher, GO FOR IT :)
     
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    When I was younger ( twenties I am sure) I was playing softball with my 6 grade. I was running fast for a flyball and the grass was in damp clay. My feet went up and I landed on my @$$ very hard. Almost put me out and the pain was unreal. I looked up at all these eyes and hearing "are you OK coach" The kids were helpful and attentive. It is funny thinking about it now but Lord it hurt and I was helpless with them for awhile. Great kids at that school.
     
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