Should I say something?

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  1. RussianBlueMommy

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    So being a full time building sub, Ive been working in Sped a lot. There is this one aide, a guy baseball coach. On two occasions I've witnessed him making a girl sad. She is in wheelchair and has a myriad of issues including muscular dystrophy, downs and autism. She's barely verbal.

    Today I was feeding her lunch it had to be chopped etc. this aide said "im glad it's you and not me. I don't ant to touch or be around her. She stinks" Immedietely this girl f
    Went from happy and eating to putting her head down really sad and tears. I took him aside and said "I think you hurt her feelings that was mean" . He started to talk directly to her and said "well it's true! She stinks and I need to spray her with my cologne daily.
    The other aide said he's just mean to her and a few others but since he's an"good coach", they won't do anything when she complains. I wonder if I should let the principal know my concerns?
     
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  3. Caesar753

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    If it's true that he said that, those comments are disgusting and despicable. If you don't stand up for this student, who will? If it were your child that he was talking about, would you just let it slide because he's a good coach?

    Admin may or may not do anything about it once you tell them, but that's their moral obligation. Yours is to speak up on behalf of someone who can't. Integrity matters. Have some.
     
  4. Linguist92021

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    I would say something. Me, being me, I would have defended this girl in front of her, letting this so called coach know what he did was wrong, and not in private. This way the girl knows that at least 1 person stuck up for her.
     
  5. RussianBlueMommy

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    I spoke to admin they said "it's being dealt with" . Sigh poor girl. I told her what he did was mean and wrong and that she was a lovely girl etc. she seemed OK
     
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    I'm glad you said something to admin. Next time say something to the douche canoe, too.
     
  7. RussianBlueMommy

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    It's such an overall sad situation. But it is making me rethink taking the aide job- They need me and want me in there!!
     
  8. AmyMyNamey

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    I wouldn't just tell the principal. I'd tell her parents and the school board. The guy needs to be fired.

    If that doesn't work, video him and post it anonymously on YouTube.
     
  9. MrTempest

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    This is a bit much and rather unprofessional
     
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    For me, it would result in a formal reprimand, at the very least.
     
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    Probably, but it was also unprofessional of the coach to be talking to a student that way.
     
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    I'm suddenly wondering if the student has and can physically work a smartphone, but it doesn't sound like that's the case.
     
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    I agree, and I would be following the protocol for informing the coach and an administrator of my concerns. It's the video-taping that would get me in trouble.
     
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    I never implied that it was not. But his wrong action do not justify others from stooping down from what it right. Making a video of an event like OP descibed public would bring unwanted attention to the child and overshadow a school full of other (hopefully better) teachers with the actions of one idiot.
     
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    And you're all right. But it is awfully tempting, in its way.
     
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    If it was my kid, my response would be more forceful.

    No, it's not too much. I'm very supportive of teachers, but not monsters. This guy is a monster who does not belong around children.
     
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    One of the unwritten rules in my district is keep the school out of the news. Seriously, it would be a bad idea to secretly record a teacher for the purpose of releasing it to the media, especially as a first resort. Be professional and assertive, go through the proper channels and chain of command.
     
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    No district would want this in the news. The way to prevent that is to deal with the issue before it does, because, eventually, it will be in the news—whether or not someone records the behavior with a smart phone or just calls the local paper.
     
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    Document everything that you see going on - ON PAPER. I'd even go as far as writing down what you saw going on and giving that paper to the principal so that they have a record and you have a record that you documented the incident. Keep a record in case the parents sue the school for this teacher harassing their daughter. That way you are covered if it ever comes up that you knew this was going on and you have proof that you reported it.
     
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    No way would I film a child and post it on youtube. The situation has been dealt with, he is no longer working in that position. They have him shuffling papers or something. He's tenured so can't be gotten rid of too easily sigh.
     
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    That is just terrible--I cannot believe a teacher would be so disrespectful to a student. It makes me very angry. As a sub, I would 100% let someone know. If the office did not seem to respond, I would talk to the guidance counselor. I'm so glad to hear he is no longer in that position!
     
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    Just found this thread and thought I would update everyone. Since my posting, he has been terminated.
     
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    Good riddance! Make sure the student who was the target of his verbal abuse hears the good news.
     
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    Unfortunately, she passed away over the Christmas break. He got fired shortly after. She died of Cystic Fibrosis. :(
     
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    You do what you have to do. Being a professional doesn't mean you get sucked into the swamp of political correctness.

    Professional teachers care about our students, and we do what we need to do in order to teach our students.

    If that means taking to youtube to show that a teacher shouldn't be allowed in a classroom because they are detrimental to our profession, then so be it.
     
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    I love the public school where you work! The proper action was taken against him and I’m glad he was fired. What a disgusting human being.
     
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    :(:(:(
     
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    OMG omg!!! This is all too much
     
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    It is definitely sad for the many teachers , paras and staff who knew her. She was a very sweet, loving and caring little girl. She always had a hug for you, a smile and she lit up the classroom. I cried so hard when I found out!!
     
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    Kind of makes me sick to my stomach that she had to deal with this ass in the final months of her life.

    In the future, if this happens again with another student, I would go straight to the parents.
     
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    Awww that poor baby :( :(
     

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