Should I report sub?

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  1. Milsey

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    Some of my female students said the sub was 'checking them out.' I asked what precisely was he doing. They said he kept walking around their desks and watching them closely.

    I'm not sure what to do. I never had this guy before He did follow the plans, left detailed notes, and the classroom was neat when I came in.

    I don't want him to lose his job in this economy , but I'm concerned about these remarks and would I be exposing myself to a lawsuit. I've had my battles with two of these girls; one was sent home last month for dressing inappropriately. The other two are generally reliable. One hardly complains about anything, so it was unusual hearing this from her.
     
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  3. Pashtun

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    I would be very cautious. Walking around the classroom and watching students closely....
     
  4. Go Blue!

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    Exactly. I mean, what exactly are you going to report about this guy without any real details/examples?

    Also, I don't like playing with people's jobs/income.
     
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    You said you've had battles with those girls. He was probably watching them because they were misbehaving. I would do nothing. If he followed the lesson plans he is already better than 80% of subs.
     
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    I would try and find out what the kids mean by watching them closely. As a person who was a teenage girl there can be a big difference.
     
  7. heavens54

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    I would be suspicious of the girls report. They could have been passing a note or acting like they were up to something. It doesn't sound to me like he did anything wrong.
     
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    At this point I don't think you have enough information to do anything. "Watching them closely" from girls you had problems with is too vague and somewhat unreliable.
     
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    I would forward the students to the office. If they have a valid complaint/suspicion, they will follow up and make the complaint to admin. And it can be investigated. If they were just being dramatic, they'll probably drop it. Either way, it's not your issue.
     
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    :yeahthat:

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  11. MikeTeachesMath

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    Agreed.

    Their accusation is too serious to ignore completely, just in case.
     
  12. BioAngel

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    I would agree. Just in case... you don't want this situation to come back to the admin that you knew he did something and did not report it.
     
  13. callmebob

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    When I was in 7th grade, we had a student teacher in our social studies class. A lot of the kids did not like him. A bunch of the girls said that he would look down their shirts. It wasn't long after those accusations that he was no longer student teaching at the school. Having been in the class with them and having heard the conversations the girls had, I know they were lying. They just wanted him gone.
    It can be a very difficult situation especially for male teachers.

    **Adding to that, When a teacher is standing up and students are seated and you look down to talk to them, it can often be thought that the teacher is attempting to look down a shirt simply due to the angle. There could be zero ill intentions.
     
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    I dunno, as someone who is short and on the busty side, I've always been able to tell the difference between someone looking down at me and someone trying to keep looking, even when I was a student. This included my 9th grade biology teacher, who also once put his arm around me and asked if I'd like to donate my body to science. Eww. I was 14 and bolted into my next class without saying anything to anyone.

    Have these students talk with an administrator, but keep yourself out of the matter because you weren't there.
     
  15. MissCeliaB

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    I agree with this. They should report to the administration, and let the administration choose to investigate or not.

    I had a similar situation recently where several classes had combined and a student made an accusation against another teacher. I had stepped out of the room to escort a new student to where she needed to go, so I did not see or hear anything. I stayed completely out of the whole process, and still do not know what came about of the situation. It's not my business.
     
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    I do agree you should kick it up to admin, at the same time I feel bad for the teacher, once it reaches admin he will be "guilty" whether official or not. It will always be in the mind of that admin when that persons name comes up.
     
  17. Nate

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    I think you could share the whole story, including your history with the girls, with the administration. It's so easy to see this story going horribly wrong if either the girls were right, and the guy does something awful in the future, or if the girls are wrong, and the guy's life is derailed.

    Pass it on to admin, and they may know the guy has a stellar track record, or this may be the 3rd incident they've heard hints of.

    But I wouldn't have him come back to your room, if either he's got it in for these girls or vice versa.
     
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    I would love to have a sub "watch closely". It's much better than doing nothing. Tell the girls if they want to complain, you are the WRONG person to talk to. You weren't there. Not your place to say what happened. They must go to admin. Then the issue is done and gone.
     
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    I think it is unbelievable how comments from 7th/8th grade girls that someone was checking them out can turn into a sexual assault. How is this a serious accusation?

    Is the principal going to call him in and question him?

    Principal: "So Mr. Substitute Teacher, where you checking these girls out?

    Mr. Sub: No sir. I was walking around the room monitoring their work to see if anyone needed any help.
     

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