Scott Foresman Reading Street??

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  1. MrsNickle

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    This is my first year to teach, I'll be in first grade (obviously). Last year my district had Open Court reading curriculum. I found out yesterday that they are changing to Scott Foresman Reading Street.

    I would love any and all information you can give me about this curriculum! :thanks:
     
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    We use Scott Foresman Reading Street. At first it was very overwhelming. There is a lot to cover. We had to learn to pick and choose the best activities. Our first year we tried to do everything and it was impossible. At first we tried to do reading groups the way they say to in the teacher's manual, but last year we went back to more of a guided reading approach. I like the phonics, the students are exposed to each element in many ways. It was hard our first year, b/c the kids we had were just starting the program. Since they didn't have it in K, it was above their level at the time. Last year went much better, b/c the students had had the program in K. They were great readers by the end of the year. Reading Street offers a K Review of letters and sounds which we do for a few weeks and then jumps right into short vowels.

    Sight words are introduced on Tuesdays in the manual. We switched and started introducing them on Mondays to give the kids more time with them. At first you only do a few, later in the year (Unit 3 or 4) you have up to 7 in one week.

    There are big books, which I like, that you read for 3 weeks each. We usually read them once a week, even though the manual says twice. There is a phonics songs and rhymes chart and a sing with me big book. My students always love these.

    We got a lot of workbooks, but I don't use everything. I send the spelling home for homework and just pick a few of the phonics ones to do.

    If you have any more questions, I will be glad to help. My manual is at school, so this was just what I could think of off the top of my head.
     
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    Overwhelming eh? Sounds GREAT for my first year of teaching. :( but thank you for all of your help and advice. Maybe I can take what you learned and what you now do differently and just start off that way. :)
     
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    We are using Reading Street for the first time this year. SaraFirst, do you think it is possible to skip the K review or is it needed?
     
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    Bookworm: I wouldn't skip it entirely (especially if the kids are new to the series), b/c some students might not be ready to jump right in to short vowels. The review kind of eases them back into the school routine. I also did a lot of other activities with the review (read alouds, rhyming, class books, etc.) Once you start the actual first grade curriculum there is a lot to cover. It may be easier to start it after a few weeks, once your routines and procedures are in place. We had plenty of extra weeks in the school year, so we were still able to finish the entire series by the end of the year.

    Mrs. Nickle: When we got the series it was my first year of teaching, too! It was overwhelming to even the veteran teachers, but we figured it out together. I was hired right before school started, so that made it even harder.

    Good luck to both of you!
     
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    Thanks for the info!
     
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    Last year was our first year with Reading Street also. I would have to agree with Sarafirst on many things... I am not happy with the number of big books in the series... they expect you to read it for too long and the kids are bored.....

    I DO love how everything ties together! Unlike a traditional guided reading lesson where you pick the lesson out of the book, this series has already "uploaded" the phonic and literary skill whole group so it carries great into the small group reading.... I think the "basal" stories got to long by the end of the year and we did these as read alouds, buddy-reading, and listened to the story on tape. I did not like the above-level books as I feel their content is beyond first grade and sometimes bored even me!

    I would suggest that you make up your own center ideas... the ones in the book are pretty generic and I found the skill wasn't introduced long enough to expect independent practice. I usually reviewed the previous week's skills in centers the next week!

    I think the Kindergarten review is necessary to get them comfortable and back into school routines! I love this part of the program as it really gives me some room to do different read-alouds that I don't get to after the "real" series starts.

    I did not do grammar everyday... probably about 3 times a week- and I tied this into my Writer's Workshop. I did not faithfully use the Writer's Workshop materials in the series.. I did use some of the ideas for guiding their writing... for example they were supposed to write about how they have changed(I think)- I had the students bring in pictures of themselves as babies, toddlers,and then I took a picture of them now... I adjusted the mini-lessons in the book to go with that and then they had to write how they have changed. Then they scrapbooked the pictures with their typed writing and many parents tell me it will be something they keep for a long time. We also did pet research instead of researching an invention... this went great too!

    Just take your time and weed through it..... my students also like the songs and poems and LOVED the morning message.... I used the poems in a poetry center each week!

    I know I put alot... please ask any questions!
     
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    Wow soo much great information. Thanks so much ladies!

    Sara-glad to hear I'm not the only person who will start this during my first year, but I agree that the veterans will be just as overwhelmed as I will b/c it's new to ALL of us! :)
     
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    Hi MrsNickle! I also teach 1st grade and it looks like we are in the same district. Did you manage to get to the Foresman Overview session? The last one was last Saturday. There are many materials available to us and it actually seems more friendly than Open Court was IMHO. It will be interesting to see how well we all use it.
     
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    turtlegirl: You reminded me of several things I had forgotten! I felt the same way about the stories at the end of the year. They are very long (and some did not hold my interest at all)! I don't do a very good job about teaching grammar often. I didn't really do the centers in the book. I do literacy workstations by Debbie Diller. I used some of the writing ideas from the book, but did a lot of my own things.
     
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    I'm in FWISD, this is my first year teaching. I didn't know anything about the Foresman Overview session. :( I go to new teacher orientation next week so hopefully I will learn more about it there.:unsure:
     
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    Sarafirst: I will have to look for that book by Debbie Diller... I made up my own centers too but focused on reviewing all of the skills that were taught in different ways. I feel it's a BIG weakness of the program. I also miss the old guided reading groups I used to do but again I do like how everything seems tied together in Reading Street.
    I review my grammar skills in the morning message as much as I can... that way I don't feel guilty when I don't do ANOTHER workbook page.
    I am expecting this year to go better.... We will have to keep posting on here when we need each other!
     
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    Reading Street doesn't do guided reading groups? :confused:
     
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    Hi Everyone... I also am starting my first year, and will be using Foresman... Question: How did you us it to "differentiate" in the classroom. My principle told me this is one of my goals this year. I saw the "trade books" were leveled.. I am not aloud to have really "leveled" reading groups, how can I give the advanced kids what they need, as well as below and on-grade level with this program? Thanks!!
     
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    Mrs. Nickle: Scott Foresman has reading groups, but they are different than guided reading. They review all of the skills for the week and use leveled readers that come with the series. We tried this our first year, but weren't crazy about all of it. Some of the books are good, others we didn't like as much. This past year, we went back to more of a guided reading approach. We used some of the Scott Foresman leveled readers and some guided reading book sets. The leveled books are strategic (below level), onlevel and advanced. For the advanced group they give you harder words that contain the same phonics element that the class is learning. They also give you advanced passages for the kids to read. They have a section for reading groups in the back of the manual under "Differentiated Instruction".
     
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    cait21: Do you have to have mixed ability groups? It seems strange that they want you to differentiate, but won't let you have leveled groups. As I mentioned in my previous post there is information in the back of the teacher's manual for differentiated instruction, but it is for small groups. I differentiate through my groups and my literacy workstations, mostly.
     
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    turtlegirl: I think you will like the workstation book. I don't do all of the different ones, b/c I have a reading teacher who comes in to help with groups, so only half the kids are at stations at a time. She has a lot of good ideas about workstations. The kids are actually reading and writing instead of completing worksheets or busy work.
     
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    Hi SaraFirst:
    I know, isn't that crazy? I think I need to sit down w/ the principle and ask her how she suggests I differentiate without grouping them my level. Also, I think I am going to do "flexible" grouping.. Call it that, you know, so there are no problems... so then at times I can level them and do some instruction geared towards their learning needs...
    Thanks for the info that in the back of the teacher's manual there is info on differentiate instruction. Also, what do you do with the leveled trade books?
     
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    SaraFirst.. Or anyone who might be able to help:
    Is there anyway anyone can send sample centers/stations schedule they used for Scott Foresman. The other 1st grade teacher (who has never taught 1st grade either) and I went through the book today and are totally overwhelmed trying to figure out what a typical SF literacy part of the day would look like. Right now in my classroom I have a Reading Center (for guided reading groups, phonics, etc.), and Writing Center, a Listening Center, and a Library for independent reading.. I also have a TA in the classroom who can also do reading groups... Can we do two reading groups going at the same time? Are there enough books? I'm kind of bugging out, b/c I want to start slowly introducing my centers/stations to the kids so they know the routine early and can become used to it.. but I can't seem to figure it out! Any help would be FABULOUS! THANK YOU!!
     
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    Cait21: Well, we do two reading groups at the same time, but there probably aren't enough books if they need to use the same book. We got 8 of each book, your district could have ordered any amount. What we did when we were just using the leveled books, was one teacher taught a group using the onlevel books, while another teacher taught a group using the below level books. That way we weren't using the same books at the same time. Then we could switch books for the next group if needed.

    As for centers/workstations, the schedule would depend on how many students you want at each station. You might need to experiment a little and see what works for you. I have two groups a day for 20 min each, while the reading teacher also has two groups for 20 min each. When a student is not in reading group, they go to a workstation. So-my kids just do one station a day for 20 min. I did try to start slowly and had some read/work at their seats when only some workstations had been introduced. Ideally, I wouldn't have started reading groups until they were into their routines with workstations, but I had to start when everyone else was.
     
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    Oops, I forgot your question about the leveled books. I use some for reading groups. Other times, I put them out in baskets for the kids to read. Some people send them home for the kids to read and return. I don't, instead I send home the leveled readers from our old reading series.
     
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    Sarafirst: Thanks for clarifying to Mrs. Nickle about the guided reading group question....

    Cait21: I stick with basically the same 8 workstations all year and my students rotate through them 4 to 5 in a week.....
    I do Writing, Computer, Art(periodically), Word Work, Math(periodically), Poetry, Library, Read the room(periodically, and Listening.
    I could send some examples of some workstation activities that I did once I can get back into my room... They are waxing my wing next week!
    In word work is where I review the phonics skill from the previous week. When I first start workstations, I review letters and sounds here. Maybe they have to put letters in ABC order, or practice writing their letters on dry-erase boards, or sort letters. This is just to get them used to independent workstations.
    Computer- I may have them type sight/spelling words and print them out, go to our favorite literacy websites(starfall.com), our blog on our class blog....
    Writing- Usually has to do with whatever the "theme" is in Scott Foresman.. So for example the first full book is about friends, so we do alot of writing about friends....
    Listening... I have put all of the listening parts of the story on 1 CD for each story... This way the students don't have to mess with all of the CDS, they can just pop in 1, I also have books on tape with individual head sets that they use in the beginning of the year.

    I personally meet with ALL of my students during small group reading... I like to see how they are all doing. We bought the program called Sidewalks which is the remedial program for Scott Foresman. Our reading specialist uses this and pull groups out during my hour block.
     
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    I use reading street and like all basal books, it has good points and bad ones! I have used a few basal programs over the years and I like this one quite a bit!

    It is very overwhelming to use in the beginning (as it is with any new program!!) but does get bettter once you dive into it! We have used it for a year now I am still finding new things to use!

    I love the phonics (great order and challenges them a bit more than other programs do) and the HF words (I use them as word wall words)!

    The guided reading...I found the leved readers to be....okay. There is a corrleation charts (somewhere on the web....your school should be able to set you up with web access....you get all sorts of goodies on there!) do not really match. Meaning, if one of there 'on level' books is listed as a GR level "b"...it is much harder than any other "b" trade book that I have ever used!

    That being said, it was very hit and miss. Some weeks it was right on, and others the books were WAY above the kids!!

    For the lower groups, I love the Decodable Readers. I used these at the beginning of each week to reinforce the phonics sounds that were taught whole group. These books are also available in blackline master so you can send them home!!!!

    The basal storie are okay...I used them once in a while! I def. did a lot of supplementing with trade books.

    My kids loved the big rhyme book and the flip chart of phonics poems.

    There are lots of workbooks, and being that they are free the first year a school orders, you will get lots and lots of them! I used the spelling for HW and kept the practice books in school.
    I found the others to be a waste!

    Oh, have any of you used the benchmark assessments? Thoughts?
     
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    We also have Sidewalks that some of the reading specialists use for pull out groups. I should have mentioned that we switch teachers for groups after several weeks, so I do meet with all of my students for several weeks during the year, just not all at once. Also, when we do testing I usually test the students who aren't currently in my group and I talk frequently with the reading teacher to know how they are doing.

    Lovetoteach: We don't use the benchmark assessments, but I think our Kinder teachers do. We are a Reading First School so we do DIBELS and DRAs. That keeps us busy.
     
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    Do you have to have mixed ability groups? It seems strange that they want you to differentiate, but won't let you have leveled groups. As I mentioned in my previous post there is information in the back of the teacher's manual for differentiated instruction, but it is for small groups. I differentiate through my groups and my literacy workstations, mostly.

    My principal wants us to use differentiated instruction as well. She has explained it as follows: (I hope it helps) Group the students with a low, average, and high student. Choose one reading or writing concept that all three of the students need to work on. Work on that concept for a week or longer if needed, then switch the groups and concept taught to the students. The students are not labeled in as a low group, average group, and a high group. This does help the struggling students' self confidence soar. We also have several parents that do no want their child "labeled"! They do not want other students or parents to realize their child is struggling. We live in a small community and word gets out no matter how we try to keep it confidential. You cannot stop the students from telling their parents who is in the low or high reading group. This may be what your school is trying to accomplish. I hope it helps.
     
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    Yes, we have sidewalks! Our reading and special ed. teachers use them.
    SaraTeach: just wondering, do you know what your K teachers think of them? I find them to be a waste of time....something like a DRA or running record would tell me more.....
     
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    love2teach: I think the K teachers like them ok. They pretty much stick to the manual though, so they might just do them b/c they are there. We first grade teachers can of thought that they were a waste of time, like you mentioned. I really like the info I get from DRAs.

    teach1st: My groups are very flexible, I have had kids go from the "low" group to the "high" group after a period of time. The only one who knows the group labels are myself and the reading teacher. I certainly wouldn't tell the kids or parents they were the low group or anything like that. They may be able to figure out who is a good reader and who struggles. However, I believe that they can figure this out, no matter how they are grouped. We talk about how everyone learns things in their own time. Some kids can ride a bike without training wheels, other kids won't learn till later. Some kids can tie their shoes, others are still practicing, etc. I have never had any problems with students being mean to other kids about their reading level or group.

    What you said about having a low, middle and high student work on a skill does make sense, but it seems that my high students need to work on different skills than my low students. I don't think students should be ashamed of needing extra help in reading. I can see why it would be embarrasing, but a lot of students go to reading teachers for extra help. Some just need a little boost and then they are fine and catch up or even pass other members of the class.
     
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    Thank you all for describing your typical schedules. This is helping me BIGTIME...
    Turtlegirl: That would be great if you could send what the workstations look like once they are done with the waxing. I definitly think I might model some of your stations...Thanks!
    Sarafirst: I think I might start out slow as well, and have them get the routine of the stations down. I guess I need to figure out how many books I have to work in groups and go from there. I just have to be very organized and really plan out well... Also, how do you like DIBELS.. I have to do that assessment as well... How often did you do it?
    What did you all do with the text books? Did you give them out to the kids for each unit? Sorry for all the questions!! I'm just trying to figure this all out!
     
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    cait21: DIBELS is ok. It gives some good information. Unfortunately some people in our school place too much emphasis on it. I try to use other tests as well as my own knowledge of students when making decisions about grouping, etc. We are required to do DIBELS benchmarks 3x a year. Then we do progress monitoring. Based on their scores, some students are monitored 1x a week, others are every other week or once a month. We do this on palm pilots, so it is fairly quick and simple. The reading teacher helps us.

    I keep my books on a shelf above my cubbies. They are in number order, so when it is time to pass them out, the kids come over in order and I quickly hand them their books. At times, I think I would like to have the kids keep them in their desks, but since they are still fairly new, I want to keep them nice. It would be interesting to know what other teachers do.
     
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    I like the end of the unit benchmarks because they mirror our state tests that NY has in grades 3-8. I usually only have my students read the sentences for the end of the week assessment. Some kids read better in context instead of isolation..

    We also give the DIBELS and I do running records using PM Benchmark. What I don't like about DIBELS is the nonsense word part.... I just find this irrelevent and confusing to first graders. I do find that DIBELS, while it is good for consistent testing, does not tell me anything that I don't already know about my students...
    and I think it is a good indicator of word attack skills but NOT comprehension which is our ultimate goal....
     
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    cait21: I'll do my best with the workstations. If you PM me with your email address I can send you some examples I have on my computer!
     
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    Sarafirst and Turtlegirl... Thanks for the input on DIBELS.. this is all great info. I really appreciate your help!
    Turtlegirl: Yes, no rush on the workstations... email is caitlin.fuentes@gmail.com, Thanks!
     
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    Opps.. sorry I will send a PM of it..
     

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