Revolutionizing the concept of District Office - Do teachers/students need this much admin?

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  1. andrewdavidbarratt

    andrewdavidbarratt New Member

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    Hello. I am a teacher with 13 years experience. Charter and District. Elementary and Middle School.

    I was talking with someone who was a senior admin today. I began to wonder. Does their job matter? I couldn't think why it did.

    I was thinking about the role an onsite admin person does, such as an office manager. They have to run a school, on top of being a school nurse, work with parents, behavior specialist, traffic person etc etc. Why do all other admins/hr people get the luxury of working from a district HQ or home, when we as teachers or on site personnel do not? The more I thought about it, I couldn't actually find a reason.

    I began to make some notes. I call this mini essay: "Rethinking Admin for 21st Century Schools."

    1) Most teachers worked through a pandemic in person, in class, as did Principals, classified staff and office staff. HR/Admin did not.

    2) Most district office jobs unless specifically linked to accounting/maintenance are not necessary.

    3) Any person working from home should be immediately let go.

    4) There is no need for a district office building. None. IT and Maintenance may need their own site. Nobody else does.

    5) Any supe, assistant supe or any other none essential HR position should work out of school sites.

    6) Every person who works in education who isn't immediately in front of students must have a quota of hours they fulfill doing jobs serving students. These could be: classroom aide/lunch duty/making copies/traffic/reading tutor etc. A minimum quota of 10% of work hours per year.

    7) There are only two jobs in education. Serving students. Or assisting people who serve students.

    8) All coaching/PD/curriculum etc positions should be fulfilled by a teacher(s), who gets special release time to do this on top of being a classroom teacher.

    9) No person should hold any coaching/PD/curriculum position for longer than two years and cannot repeat.

    10) Students need teachers, aides, tutors, classified staff, councillors, electives teachers, enrichment and a Principal. They don't need red tape or none necessary positions. A person in front of a child is always more important than any job that isn't, unless is directly correlates to keeping the lights on.
     
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  3. Ima Teacher

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    I’m going to play devil’s advocate here. I’m speaking as a retired public school teacher with almost 30 years of experience, and I’m married to someone who was in another school district with the same years of experience I have.

    1) Most teachers worked through a pandemic in person, in class, as did Principals, classified staff and office staff. HR/Admin did not.
    It was just the opposite here. Teachers were working from home, and the district tried to find jobs for classified staff so they weren’t without pay because schools were remote for a little over a year. District admin worked from home less than anyone else.

    2) Most district office jobs unless specifically linked to accounting/maintenance are not necessary.
    Why do you feel this way? I will specifically mention truancy, special education, and Title I all have requirements that would be too much to put on the shoulders of teachers and building admin.

    3) Any person working from home should be immediately let go.
    What is the basis for this? Also, who is still working from home? At this point we haven’t had anyone on district or school level working from home in the last two school years.

    4) There is no need for a district office building. None. IT and Maintenance may need their own site. Nobody else does.
    Where are the others supposed to be? If they are housed at different schools in the district, when meetings are required, there will be a lot of traveling among buildings. Those needing to meet with district personnel would have a difficult time locating the person they need.

    5) Any supe, assistant supe or any other none essential HR position should work out of school sites.
    See #4.
    Also how are superintendents non-essential? What do you see as the roles of the superintendents?

    6) Every person who works in education who isn't immediately in front of students must have a quota of hours they fulfill doing jobs serving students. These could be: classroom aide/lunch duty/making copies/traffic/reading tutor etc. A minimum quota of 10% of work hours per year.
    Who will monitor this requirement? Would you add it to someone else’s work load? Would you hire someone to monitor? Wouldn’t that just add to the issue of non-essential workers?

    7) There are only two jobs in education. Serving students. Or assisting people who serve students.
    This is actually correct. However, “serving students” doesn’t just mean teaching students. There are people in all kinds of other positions. It takes a lot to run a school district.

    8) All coaching/PD/curriculum etc positions should be fulfilled by a teacher(s), who gets special release time to do this on top of being a classroom teacher.
    I would absolutely not be interested in doing my job (teaching) and an additional job (coaching/PD/curriculum) on a regular basis, release time or not. Teachers have enough on their plate without adding additional responsibilities.

    9) No person should hold any coaching/PD/curriculum position for longer than two years and cannot repeat.
    This sounds good in theory, but then you are in a position of having to train a new person every two years. Having someone who could just continue in the position takes away the need to train someone every few years.

    10) Students need teachers, aides, tutors, classified staff, councillors, electives teachers, enrichment and a Principal. They don't need red tape or none necessary positions. A person in front of a child is always more important than any job that isn't, unless is directly correlates to keeping the lights on.
    While it is true that the most important thing is the teaching of the student, but there are lots of things that go on behind the scenes to make the teaching happen. If I had to do all of the behind-the-scenes stuff as well as the teaching, I wouldn’t have lasted as long as I did in education.
     

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