Question on retake part(s) of the CBEST

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  1. ChloeZ

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    Hi guys! I failed the writing part of the CBEST. And I am wondering if I only retake one part of the test, do I have 80 minutes or 240 mins to finish my writings? I am a super slow writer and I am thinking about retaking both math and writing parts so that I can quickly finish the math then have more time on writing. Do I have to do that? Thanks
     
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    I do believe that you would be given the full allotted time to complete the writing section. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. If you passed the reading and math section, you do not need to retake them again.
     
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    Things could change in the next testing year, I suppose... but that doesn't start till August, and as of today http://www.ctcexams.nesinc.com/test_info_CBEST.asp says that both the computer-based and the paper-based test sessions are still four hours in length for one, two, or three sections.

    ChloeZ, do you have your official score report yet for the writing section? If so, can you tell me what you see by way of diagnostics for each of the two essays?
     
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    Thanks for your kind reply. :)
     
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    ChloeZ, do you have your official score report yet for the writing section? If so, can you tell me what you see by way of diagnostics for each of the two essays?[/QUOTE]
    Hi, actually i haven't got my official score report yet. The reason I said I failed because i didn't have enough time to finish my second writing task. I ran out of time and I stopped halfway. I am pretty sure I will fail. Thanks for the link and it seems I do have four whole hours.
     
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    Keep us in the loop, please, ChloeZ.
     
  8. EddieMSmith

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    Speaking for myself, I mailed the math section the first time. When I re-took the test, about a year later, I recall being finished way before everyone else, not feeling sure about myself. Finally, I got up and turned in my test. I passed it.

    Unless things have changed, you don't anything to worry about. Just do the part that you need to do and hightail it outta' there.
     
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    Hi all,
    I have a pretty much the same question as chloez. I passed the maths and reading section. When I registered to Cbest, I was not given any options to chose just the writing portion. When should I let them know, that I am going to take only the Cbest writing and reading portion. Since I got low passing score in reading am thinking take reading section as well. Please let me know what are the best options for me.

    My scores:
    Reading 37
    Mathematics 67
    Writing 29
     
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    Hi Paru,

    I think the best option is to call the Pearson Test Center asap. Maybe you have to reschedule your test. My case is that I am able to choose only one or more sections just like the first time.
    The number for CBEST is (800) 262-5080. Good luck!

    Chloe


    QUOTE="Paru, post: 1993421, member: 105096"]Hi all,
    I have a pretty much the same question as chloez. I passed the maths and reading section. When I registered to Cbest, I was not given any options to chose just the writing portion. When should I let them know, that I am going to take only the Cbest writing and reading portion. Since I got low passing score in reading am thinking take reading section as well. Please let me know what are the best options for me.

    My scores:
    Reading 37
    Mathematics 67
    Writing 29[/QUOTE]
     
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    Hi Chloe,

    Thanks for the reply. I tried to register again with paper based test. I noticed the options are given only while registering for computer based test. Is it not possible to chose only one or two sections with paper based test?
     
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    Thanks Eddie!

     
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    I am sorry to say that I am not sure about paper-based test. Better to call the test center for further assistance. I haven't retaken my CBEST yet. The nearest center is about 80miles away :(
    Keep us posted!

     
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    Paru, you passed the math section free and clear, but barely passed the reading. If not mistaken, if your 3 sections total 123 points, with no section below 37, you pass the test. From what I see, if you make a 37 in the written section, you'll pass. I wouldn't bother with the reading section.

    With your 67 points in math, you can afford to make 37 points on both of the other sections and you'll still pass the test. I think it's a waste of time, for you, to retake the reading section. You can use that time to work on your writing. For me, math was the problem, I failed the math at first.

    Someone else might say different, but that's how I see it. Concentrate on writing.
     
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    Registrants for paper-based CBEST have never been asked which section they intended to take: everyone gets the whole test, each test taker chooses whichever sections to take that day, and any section left blank simply isn't scored. One's highest score on a section is always one's score of record.

    Specifying at registration which section(s) one means to take on the test day is a new thing with the computer-based version. It remains the case, however, that one's highest score on a section is one's score of record.
     
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    Hi All,
    Thanks everyone for the kind response. I called the Cbest center itself to clear my doubts. It turned out that, I should take both reading and writing sections to pass the CBEST. Since 37 is not itself a passing score. And as teachergroupie said, paper based test is a whole test. I can choose which section to attend on the testing day.
    Glad I figured it all out with your kind help.
     
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    You've been slightly misinformed, Paru: it is possible to pass CBEST with only one section score over 41, provided each section score is 37 or better and the aggregate score is over 123. (37 is called a "minimal pass" score for this reason.)

    With that said, whatever work you put it to raise your reading-comprehension score ought to boost your writing score, and vice versa. Reading and writing really are two sides of a single coin.

    The Web site Using English, www.usingenglish.com is intended for English learners but its clarity makes it more universally useful.
     
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    Hi teachergroupie, so is it ok to rewrite only writing section of the test. Will my score of 37 in reading be considered as a passing score, if I pass writing section the second time?
     
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    I believe so. If u pass the writing at the second time and with the total score 123 or higher, 37 in reading is a passing score.
     
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    Yes, Paru. 37 will remain your score of record on reading comprehension until you score more points on that section, just as 67 is your score of record in math and just as your highest score so far on the essay (whether passing or not) is your score of record. The only way for a test taker to erase a score is to exceed it.

    For the record, plenty of people intentionally take CBEST one section at a time.
     
  21. Sam1975

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    Hi this is my last chance to pass cbest writing if I am to continue teaching. I had bought cbest books and seek helped from tutors. I am so worried as to what to do next every time my reason for failing is convention, structure, and usage. Please help
     
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    Hugs, Sam1975. Is your first language English?
     
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    No I started with Hindi at home but all our education in Fiji is in English, British English
    I was even thinking of having a recheck done but 29 is far below to reach 37. My cbest have a one year waiver which is about to expire. During my degree program I did my English for academic purposes, is that of some help. I am worried because though I worked with a tutor and revised my conventions I still get 29. Please help me out to reach my goal
     
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    That's a remarkable linguistic background, Sam!

    If you did ELM along with EAP and passed both, you can certainly use the pair of them in lieu of CBEST. If you didn't do both, alas, you can't just use one.

    Is your tutor someone who was familiar with CBEST?
     
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    I did LL114 but that was in Fiji. My tutor is from Wyzant. I searched her through net
     
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    Will an English for Academic Purposes approach to CBEST essays help? I suspect so, yes. Your post #22 above is punctuated very differently - especially as regards comma use - than it would be if I had written it. I don't mean this as a criticism, but rather as an observation that informal British English and informal American English seem to differ more when it comes to conventions than do formal British English and formal American English. If you follow formal British standards in punctuation, the scorers may well be happier with your command of conventions. In particular, pay attention to comma usage (and you might look up the phrase "comma splice": I see one in your post).

    As to usage, what feedback did your tutor give you?
     
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    Thanks, I am going to revise comma usage to improve my writing. As for usage she is only helping me in sentence flow, I would be happy if you could highlight on what to revise for usage.
    Thanks
     
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    Well, here's one: in American English one doesn't "revise" for an exam, one "reviews". (The word revise does exist in American English, but in the meaning 'change or redo': after reviewing American use of commas, you could be motivated to revise some sentences.)

    Oh, and in American English a noun that refers to a group but is singular in form generally takes singular verb agreement: "My family has visited...", "The government is issuing", "The company installs..." The exception is police, which is stubbornly plural even among us Yanks: "The police have arrested..."

    These are examples of American English idiom. The category "usage" covers two other key aspects that you may find easier to control. One aspect is precision or vividness in word choices: for instance, in a personal narrative, the word said is likely to be less precise and certainly is less vivid than whispered, shouted, moaned, asserted, and requested vs. demanded. Another aspect is overuse of a word: given five instances in a paragraph of the word shoes, the chances are good that at least one of them can be replaced with a pronoun and another with a synonym (brogans, sneakers, stilettos,...)
     
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    Hi!
    Have you passed the cbestwriting section?
     

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