Question for middle school teachers

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  1. hp123

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    For those of you who teacher middle school 6-8 ...Did you major in elementary education with a middle school subject extension? Or in that specific subject 7-12?

    Just curious
     
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    I am a History Major with and Ed. Minor. I started off years ago teaching MS English and History. I have a certification in 6-8 English, 6-8 History, and 6-12 History.
     
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    I teach 5th grade in a middle school. I majored in elementary ed. and got my teaching license in elementary originally as well. When I was hired for my current position, I had to take the middle school English test to become licensed for the position.

    If I had known I was going to teach middle school, I probably would have majored in English and secondary ed.
     
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    Beth,

    Do you feel like majoring in Secondary Education is more useful to what you are teaching?
     
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    No, actually. Because I teach 5th grade, I think having a background in elementary reading (early literacy in general) has been more helpful to me than if I just had the English background. However, I'm technically not using my elementary license right now, so when it expires in 2 years, I'm not sure if I'll be able to renew. If I'm not able to, the middle school English license will be the only one that I have anyway.

    I think that if you want to teach the other content areas, being a secondary ed. major would be beneficial as you'll have more time in content-related classes. I also think that applies for 7th and 8th ELA, but like I said, I think the elementary reading background is helpful when teaching ELA to the younger middle schoolers.
     
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    Around here at least, Middle school is 6-8. Most schools hire Elementary teachers to teach 6th grade, because they usually teacher more than one subject. For 7-8(which are the grades I'm really interested in teaching), they tend to be teachers with 7-12 certification. I think for the reason you stated, those teachers have more content knowledge.
     
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    I hold an Illinois Type 03 certificate, which means that I am certified to teach all subjects grades K-9. I began teaching before there was such a thing as a middle school endorsement, so I don't have to have that to teach middle school. I do have endorsements in Social Science and English. When I was going to school, I thought I was going to be a lawyer, so I was a poli sci major until the end of my sophomore year, when I switched to elementary ed. I thought I wouldn't want to teach high school, so I went with the lower grades. Now, I wish I had that secondary certificate, as high school teachers make WAY MORE money here in Illinois.
     
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    Why is the pay higher for Secondary teachers?
     
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    I have secondary (9-12) English certification, and I did start out in the high school. My degree also allows me to teach grades 7-8 in departmentalized schools. I've taught 7th-8th grade for most of my career since that's where I landed a permanent position. AFter a few years, I really loved it.

    I'm not as flexible within the schedule as those who hold middle school certification because those degrees are dual certification for two subjects in grades 5-8. That degree had just started when I was in college, and I didn't go for it because I planned to teach high school, and the middle schools here were all grades 7-8 only, so I could use my secondary degree.

    We have a few "old fashioned" K-8 degrees in our building. They can teach any subject and any grade through 8. That certification is no longer offered, and those teachers are all nearing retirement.
     
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    In NY, the certification is grades 7-12, so you'll be qualified for more jobs that way.

    Plus, if the kids change classes and you're teaching one subject all day long, it makes more sense for you to have a real strong background in that subject matter than the liberal arts type of elementary ed certification.
     
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    What I shold do

    I still think I shoudl just get the Secondary 7-12 certification. That would allow me to teacher 7 and 8th grade, and highschool.

    I really want to teach Social Studies, and it just makes the most sense for me.

    I can always go back and tack on another certification once I have th initial one.
     
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    That's a good question! I think kindergarten-second grade teachers should get the highest pay! :)
     

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