Question about LD student who won't work

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  1. missapril81

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    I am in a situation where the classroom teacher doesn't want them in their class. They are apparently disruptive in their regular classroom and put in my room. The problem with that is it is now becoming a problem for the kids I have in my small groups throughout the day. With him being in my room he is missing initial instruction. I don't have time to do his grade level curriculum along with my other groups. He is now disrupting my small groups. I am scheduled to see him two times a day for his scheduled IEP time for Math and Reading. The classroom teacher has told me to do the students grades. I was curious if anyone else has these issues, or any ideas. I have tried to talk to classroom teacher and principal, but I am getting nowhere. We are having meetings later in the week, and I am bringing it up again. I was willing to compromise and have him do his work in here, but be in class for classroom instruction. I am running out of ideas. I do understand that he does need some help, but being confined to my room all day and missing his initital instruction is not the answer. When he is allowed to go back to class he will be so far behind.
     
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    Why is he being sent out of the classroom? If he is disruptive, he should be sent to the office. The teacher needs to follow the same discipline plan that she would follow with other students.

    However, if he is out of the room because he needs a quiet place to work, that is different. I would explain CoryH to them. I think that I am citing correctly. You must follow the IEP. Having him pulled out more than the IEP specifically states is in violation of the IEP and the parents could sue the district. It is harmful to the students to be out of the general education setting, as you write on the IEP.

    Use the law as your support! You have it on your side.
     
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    Yes, I also don't see why he's being sent to you for disturbing the class.

    I would probably try to work with the student and regular classroom teacher on establishing a behavior plan for the regular classroom, with the goal being that he stays in class for initial instruction without disturbing. The plan should include an incentive for success, a series of consequences for unacceptable classroom behavior, and if necessary accommodations within the classroom to make it easier for the student to cooperate (e.g. preferential seating, reminder cues, I don't know what this student's problem is so no idea what's appropriate)
     
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    Are they actually on your roster or just being sent to your room? If they've been moved to your roster, then you are responsible for their grades. If not, then it's the other teacher's job.
     
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    The teacher is not allowed to dump the student on you whenever they don't feel like helping them out.

    Putting them in there for more time than is in the IEP is not the LRE.

    Might want to call an IEP meeting, or a private meeting with you, the teacher, the principal, and the sped head to discuss the teacher's actions.
     
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    We are having a meeting this week and I am going to bring all this up again. He is scheduled only with me for Math and Reading. I am going to have to point out again that this is not working for the student and is not what his IEP calls for. Thanks for listening and giving me your feedback. I will let you know what is discussed at the meeting. The Special Ed teacher from last year works at my school as fourth grade teacher now, she is going to come in and back me up. So our the other Support staff.
     
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    I know very little about Special Education.

    But I do know that SPED kids are supposed to be in the "least restrictive enviornment."

    That means that the classroom teacher doesn't get to dump them every single time they make her job a little tougher.
     
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    Maybe think about this as a team... is the general education classroom really the LRE? Maybe a different placement needs to be considered.
     
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    Is the student able to function in the general education classroom?

    Are they able to understand the work with assistance?

    If yes, then the gen ed classroom is the LRE.

    Because the LRE is where a student can perform their best, even if they have to have a lot of accommodations (Including a paraprofessional)
     
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    Thanks again for your comments. The meeting will be in the early am so I am praying that they see it my way. The LRE will be brought up again tomorrow. Hope you have a great day.
     
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    Good luck! Let us know what happens.
     

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