Professional development - do you pay?

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  1. Danny'sNanny

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    There is a workshop this weekend that I really wanted to go to. My district told me that we're only supposed to ask for money once, so I paid for it myself.

    Two years ago, I had some extra classroom money at the end of the year, and my P said I could use that for a workshop I wanted to attend.

    Now, there is a conference in a few months that a bunch of us would like to go to. It addresses some specific needs that we've been wanting to discuss as a staff. I just don't feel like I can spend another couple hundred $$ out of pocket when I already paid for another workshop this year.

    I'd also love to really pursue my masters, but with the teensy raise it wouldn't be financially smart. So I only take classes when I get them free for having a student teacher.

    So, I guess my question is, how much are you willing to pay out of pocket for PD?
     
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  3. ecteach

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    Never have and never would.
     
  4. Caesar753

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    I would not pay for PD. I only attend PD events that are provided during contract time (with a sub provided by the district), or entirely paid for by the school/district. I have attended weekend and/or evening PD events where I was compensated at my hourly rate, and that's okay, too.

    I've attended several PD events in other states with the school credit card for things like plane tickets, hotel rooms, and food. When I haven't had the school credit card, the only things I've paid for have been my daily expenses like food, but I have always been paid per diem for those after the fact.

    What I do pay for myself is actual university coursework that helps me move up the pay scale. Right now I'm basically topped out in educational increments, unless I go for a specialist degree or something.
     
  5. Go Blue!

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    :eek: Couple hundred out of pocket?! :eek:

    I would not spend a dime. Unless it is contractually mandated, the district has to pay me to go to a PD. They have to offer me credits toward my pay step raise. No credits? No time.
     
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    PDs are on the school dime unless I find the rare free one to attend. Grad school is another story. I only received $1000 reimbursement for the first year of my M.Ed. work, and that doesn't cover one of the classes. However, I see it as a major investment. The bump from bachelors to masters is miniscule, but it will allow me to pursue more administrative and curriculum work at my school.

    Oh, and the tuition money is tax-deductible, which is a major bonus.
     
  7. ku_alum

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    If I really thought it would be beneficial, I would pay to attend.
     
  8. FarFromHome

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    The most I've paid out of my own pocket is $30 for an afternoon workshop. My school will usually pay for it if I get the right receipts.
     
  9. JustMe

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    Considering most opportunities are at least fifty bucks, I'd be very unlikely to pay for PD.
     
  10. waterfall

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    I would say NEVER, but I did just sign up for something that I'm paying for. However, the reason is that I can get extremely cheap college credits for it to move up the pay scale. Registration was $25 for the whole thing and credits are only $82. I'm trying to get in as many credits I can before they decide to stop giving pay advances for additional coursework, which I think is inevitable in the era of performance pay. I've taught in several different districts and have always felt like I was just being professionally developed to death...I would never feel the need to seek out additional opportunities.

    This year our sped director said that she would pay for one professional development conference for us- whatever we want as long as it's local, which shouldn't be hard because I live in a fairly large city. She said that she does this because she knows the school's PD isn't always relevant to us as sped teachers, which is so true and I'm glad she recognizes that. I won't get paid for attending if it's on a weekend, but I can always look for something that's during the week.

    I can't imagine anything that I would pay hundreds of dollars out of pocket for!
     
  11. yellowdaisies

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    I paid for a Kagan training. It was heavily discounted - they usually charge a couple hundred dollars, and I only had to pay $50. It was worth every single penny. So if the price is pretty reasonable (I considered $50 for two days to be very reasonable) and the training will be immediately useful to me, I will always consider it.

    I paid for grad school, and I really don't get much for it - just a $500 stipend. Maybe eventually I will at a different school/district in the future. But the credential is post graduate in CA, so I just went through a program that included the masters and was 4 semesters instead of 2.
     
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    It would have to be pretty darned amazing for me to pay for any PD.
     
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    I have been lucky that the last 5 years, I have not had to pay for any PD. Many years ago, I did pay for a few PDs. I don't regret it a bit. Those professional developments were outstanding and highly improved by teaching. I consider the $100+ I paid an absolute bargain.

    There are many more grants and PD $$$ than there use to be. I would really try to get someone else to pay for the PD, before spending $$$ these days.
     
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    I was thinking about paying for a Love and Logic training or going to the NSTA conference, but decided against it.
     
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    I love attending conferences, etc. and I don't pay for PD - I'm very fortunate that my school reimburses all of these costs, including mileage, meals, etc. They do not, however, pay for my time should I choose to go outside of contract hours.
     
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    At my other workplace, they'd usually pay initially OR I may have to pay, then be reimbursed. They'd only approve the ones that cost maybe $25 or so.

    It's totally different at my new workplace. I'd have to pay out of my own pocket.
     
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    I haven't paid for any PD.
     
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    I'm a little surprised at how many people say they would never pay. I guess I'm an oddball... I would pay for anything, if I could make it work financially and it was something I was really interested in. To me, it's not about doing something required for the job. It's about making myself better at what I do. I love going to PDs and would have no problem paying the costs associated with it. The reason I don't usually do that is because what I won't do is take a personal or sick day to go to the conference. So paying for the conference is a moot point. Now, if my admin would give me the day off without counting it against my personal/sick days, then I'd be more open to paying for my own PD.
     
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    Every year our entire province closes all the schools on a specific day and all the teachers must attend PD. We pay for the mandated PD as well as our lunch and parking for the day.
     
  20. Danny'sNanny

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    I'm excited about the upcoming PD that I paid for. Yes, I asked for them to cover it. Yes, I grumbled when the didn't. But that didn't for a second stop me from going - it was something on my PD bucket list.

    This $200 one though - I'd like to go, but I've decided I won't pay for it out of pocket. If they will pay for it, I will go.
     
  21. Go Blue!

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    Why do you have to pay for a district mandated PD? Do you have a Union?
     
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    Yes, the PD is 'sponsored' by the union.

    I guess technically we could request the division to pay for this PD, but it would be limiting our options later in the year if we wanted to go to more expensive PD. The whole thing is a bit of a grey area. I think my registration fee this year was around $45, so I covered it because my division is paying for me to go to a 6-day training for something else.
     
  23. DrBill

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    Hi,

    We educate ourselves to achieve some benefit. Money, status or a richer life. If you are not receiving any benefit from the PD, I wouldn't pay a dime. This is coming from someone who spent 70K on a doctorate from Columbia. I would find PD opportunities that are free, or advance your career. However, if you enjoy a class or workshop, then you can consider it worthwhile entertainment!

    Your district's policy saddens me,

    Dr. Bill
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  24. czacza

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    So let me get this straight...you're only allowed to get money for PD once in your career with your school? Says a lot ( actually not much) about how much your district doesn't value PD. I get $1000 every three years ( and we all think it should be more than that as $1K doesn't cover even one grad course) I can spend that on any pre-approved classes. I pay ahead of time and get remunerated. And yes, beyond that, I have paid out of pocket for PD.
     
  25. leighbball

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    I've never paid more than $65 or so to attend something. I always ask the district to pay and they usually do. Most things are decently priced, so it hasn't been too bad to ask for. My district has been really great about it. I may be lucky though :)
     
  26. dgpiaffeteach

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    This.

    I'd like to go to the NCTE convention one year. I'm in a tiny district. I doubt they could afford it. We are going to write grants though.

    They do pay for all local PD I've wanted.
     
  27. willow129

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    Whaaaat. Ok I'm definitely asking about this in my next job search, I knew there was something wonkyabout the way my school system does things. They have never paid for a PD I've done. Nothing, conferences, day workshops, food, hotels, nada. We get vouchers and stuff to workshops or classes at local colleges but none of those have anything to do with music Ed. We have a TON of district mandated PD put on by the schools which are pretty much useless to me also.

    I love PDs that are relevant to me, like Orff and Kodaly workshops, I get SO much from them. My kids love the great ideas I get from them and the workshops encourage me to think outside the box.
     
  28. yellowdaisies

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    WOW!!! :eek: I would LOVE to have that!!!

    But, I know there is a big difference in financial resources in different parts of the country. I do know that NJ's per pupil spending is roughly double CA's. I know districts around here have a laundry list of things they would fund (specialists, smaller class sizes, etc etc) before getting to PD. :(
     
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    I'm in a good place. We have all our special area teachers (actually 2 PE teachers), 18-21 kids in a class (I've got 18 this year), our PD actually used to be better- a bit less remunerated but we were part of TC at Columbia...we are still workshop, but not 'members' of the project, we are part of a multi district funded PD center that offers good workshops, we also have a science lab, technology lab, and a decent pay scale. We aren't typical of NJ, but not unique in my part of the state.
     
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    In my district's defense, the state is massively cutting our budget each year, and they are trying hard to keep class sizes small, not lay people off, etc. I could move to a larger district that offers way more PD (and better pay!) but I choose to stay in my district because overall, it's a fabulous place to work.

    I almost started this more out of my own guilt... I just do not have room in my budget for this big conference next month, but I know it would help my kiddos! Oh well. Something cheaper will come along later, and in the meantime I can always read more books!
     
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    I don't pay out of pocket. Ever. I attend trainings provided by the district or trainings my school has set up and paid for. For out of town and out of state trips, I so e times have to pay for the hotel/gas/food out of pocket, but I always get reimbursed by the district/school.

    The only thing I've ever paid for out of pocket was a Thinking Maps binder... but only because if the school purchased it, it would belong to the school and I wanted to be able to keep it for myself if I ever left the school.
     
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    I would pay if it was affordable enough and I thought it was worth it.
     

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