Problem Parents

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  1. Backroads

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    I personally know more exceptions to the rule than the example, but being fairly familiar with Mexican-Latino culture as well as knowing a few folks from Hong Kong... you're looking at the right combination for an overly-traditional marriage here.
     
  2. ladybugteacher

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    I think they (the two individuals not Mexicans and Hong Kongers in general). Are just both crazy. Interesting note though. I found out that dad actually went to high school in this district and I was able to talk to a couple teachers who had the "pleasure" of his presence. Needless to say he didn't have too many fans. From what I understand he had a major problem with truancy but was just passed off as the next teacher's problem. Also I found out dad has lived in Mexico (very briefly), USA and Canada since he was a child so really the "culture" he himself grew up in is our culture here so he really should know better. One of his old teachers confirmed, much like junior he use to like to hide behind his Chinese heritage when ever it suited him. Also from what I was told he was kindly asked not to attend his 10 year high school reunion because of a tiff he got into with the principal.
    I believe what happened is dad had some unspecified grievance, either real or perceived , against educators so he coached his son to treat us with disrespect. I suspect mom, is kind of contentious and confrontational her self and the two of them feed off of each others negative energy. Or as one of my Co workers put it "an oroborous of pure crap".
     
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    Well THAT explains a lot. :/
     
  4. ladybugteacher

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    Explains but doesn't excuse. And what is most frustrating is that dad can't be written off as just some looney toon. Because objectively speaking he is a success. He has a nice car, nice house, and pretty wife. Just one of those things that show there really is no justice. It is even more frustrating that I cannot just write him off as a trust fund kid because according to his old teachers he came from a rather poor family (think free breakfast and lunch). That means he had earned what he has despite his personality. Truthfully he would be considered an American success story.
    Just goes to show that this country is stacked in favor of the attractive and intelligent.
    So not fair.
     
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    No, there is no excuse for any of that mess. None at all.

    You just wonder why he is such a jerk wad. I mean, who peed in his cheerios?

    I know it takes all kinds to make the world go round, but geez!
     
  6. ladybugteacher

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    No I idea,like I said some greviance either actual or perceived. It's just frustrating that there seem to be no consequences. I just couldn't help but think that the world at large would have less tolerance for his antics if he were less intelligent and or less physically attractive.
     
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    It depends,in Texas obnoxious speech must be accompanied with a breech of peace to be considered disorderly conduct. Generally unless there is a risk of violence prosecutors do not go after disorderly conduct charges.
     
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    I'm teaching reading and I've had a parent say this. She said she dropped out, got her GED, had four brand new cars, a 4,000 square foot home, and the kids had everything they wanted so education isn't worth much to her. Not two minutes later, she complained how the oil field business dried up, she is driving a used car, she and the kids are living with her parents, and she can't find a job.

    Yes. I bit my tongue and tried to get her back on talking about her child's reading.
     
  10. ladybugteacher

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    You know she will never learn. Once the oil field comes back she will be back to thinking she doesn't need edumacation again. Since I use to dance in a club my experience with oilfield folks is that when the good times are rolling they don't think there will ever be another crash again. I have seen rough necks blow their entire 3 weeks-on pay in one evening.
     
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    I was an exotic dancer through college. There is no shame in that. I paid for my own education and finished college relatively debt free.
     
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    This is one of the reason I like to work in alternative ed. The kids may be rough and tough with lots of issues, but 99% of the parents are appreciative and not entitled. They may not know how to parent and are not much help, but at least they respect us.
    I don't think I'd last long in a high SES school with entitled, spoiled kids, and arrogant, rich parents. I'd cuss someone out at some point :)
     
  13. ladybugteacher

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    Crazy thing is this kid I am having problems with us a fifth grader. Honestly the parents were like bratty high schoolers themselves. I don't understand how the dad has the mom under his spell. I have seen many guys like him and I am almost certain he's cheating on her too.
     
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    I think that might become a new mantra of mine when I have to make one of those futile-seeming calls home...

    "They may not know how to parent and are not much help, but at least they respect us."
    "They may not know how to parent and are not much help, but at least they respect us."
    "They may not know how to parent and are not much help, but at least they respect us."
     
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    Oh my God. Oh my God. No freaking way! Note to self, if ever someone even remotely gets insulting with me---call an administrator ASAP.

    What the heck. Oh please let him come say that to me. Please. I will point out that my husband makes enough money to OWN them, and I could sit by my pool and sip lemonade ALL DAY LONG, but I teach because I love it. I would do it for free. Take that j***-master.
     
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    In my experience, people like that,like drunks are immune to criticism. They are the stand up comics of the world and say things as if they are performing to an audience. I decided to take the advice of many of the members of this forum and ignore people like that rather than engage. Much like stand up comedians, people like that tend to fade into obscurity when you don't pay them any attention. Heckling them just gives them more Avenue to continue their act.
    On a side note, that particular student treated the class to another one of his literary gems. On Friday his class presentation was "The Day My Daddy Went to Jail ". He gave a play by play of his father's last arrest describing in excruciating minutia of how his parents were belligerent to the arresting officers, my personal favorite was "and as they were putting my dad into the police car, he saw our black neighbors and started to yell to yell to them 'call Jesse, call Al, Colored Man down, colored man down, Black lives matter, Black lives Maaaaatter!!'".
    The assignment was to tell a family story to the class. Where as most of the other children told stories about the positive accomplishments of their family members, this boy seemed extremely proud of his dad's arrest. He said that the happy ending wast that his dad was out by dinner time and according to his dad " you can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride".
     
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    Ummmmmmmmmmm...I have no words.
     
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    I think that is the reaction that student is trying to get out of everone. I have decided to just not question it any more.
     
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    These people remind me of my almost mother-in-law (her baby boy cheated on me before the wedding). The guy and I went to college together and he was flunking out of school as a Computer Science major, and I was getting straight A's as a double major theatre and music education, with a minor in Lit. She blamed me for his failing because all I did was "prance around all day acting silly" and "read silly little plays" and "go la-la-la". She told me if I was taking "real" classes I'd be struggling just as much as him. Of course, I was the one at rehearsals three hours a day, plus competitions every weekend, and working, not her son. Needless to say, here I am, with a career, a house, a family and a good life, and there he is, stilling living in his mother's basement with his wife, who doesn't believe women should work (they're both 41), still working as a rent-a-cop and she can't retire because she has to support them. (We have common friends, and they keep me up-to-date--in fact, his step father and I were friends until his death--he always thought his stepson was a putz). Bet she wishes he'd have married me!

    Hopefully, the karma fairies will come down on those terrible parents and their little baby and they'll get their just desserts at some point.
     
  20. Backroads

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    My husband is a rent-a-cop and makes more money than I do! :D

    But, wow, I totally see your point there! Poor mom. A large part of me says to dump the kids and retire. It's not her job to support them.
     
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    DIdn't mean to belittle rent-a-cops. He is not one of the well-paid ones, he only works part time and hasn't done any training to be able to carry a weapon or anything like that. He is basically a safety monitor--He tells people not to do things but has no authority to actually do anything. And I don't feel sorry for her--she dug her own hole--she always plays herself the victim, and wants everyone to feel bad for her. When we were together, she threatened to kill herself (not sure if she was serious) if her son didn't join her on a family trip instead of staying with me (we had a previous committment).
     
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    Belittling some one for their profession makes you no better than those people who were belittling me for being a teacher. I know you state you are not trying to belittle rent a cops but the fact that your justification is that he is part time and and doesn't carry a weapon means you are in fact belittling a subset of security professionals. The man may be a putz but you shouldn't judge all those security professionals who are part time and as you put it "basically a safety monitor".
     
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    I didn't feel you were belittling, don't worry!

    It's no great offense to a part-time security guard, but generally there is some sort of problem around if a man is in his 40s only able to work part-time.
     
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    That is true, but some times these problems are beyond the man's control such as mental or physical health issues. Is just never good to judge some one based on their employment situation.
     
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    Looks like you got lucky and dodged a bullet there or you'd be the basement wife! Ack!!!
     
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    Any one remember that show Mama's Family?
     
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    I have my one, full-time teaching job---and I swear it feels like two full-time jobs. Probably because I work 60+ hours a week.
     
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    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! One of my favorites!
     
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    It was my mom's favortie also. It and the show Everybody loves Raymond.
     
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