private vs. public--what do you think....

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  1. perplexed

    perplexed Comrade

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    I teach middle school language arts/reading--grades 7 & 8. Right now I am at a K-8 private school that I have been at for the last 3 years, but I also got offered a position at a middle school public school. At the middle school for the new position, I would be a reading interventionalist for grades 6-8. It's a really hard decision for me to decide what I want becuase I'm unsure of the unknown and afraid the new situation could be worse than what I have now.....What situation seems more idea?

    My now situation--Private school, unlimited resources for teachers, beautiful brand new building (100 million dollars to build!), 15 students per classroom, I love my physical classroom--it's beautiful, I look out my window and see deer, cranes, fields, and wildlife--the view is spectacular, the school owns 177 acres of land, lots of technology/computers/Smart Boards, lower pay and 4,000 a year for health insurance, no behavior support (teachers deal with it all...if you involve the principal, then it looks like you can't handle it or it was your fault), no substitutes for specials teachers (gym, music, art, language) so if a specials teacher is absent when my class has that subject, we have our homeroom class during our prep--which happens A LOT, so prep time gets taken a lot. The principal is kind of shady and lies a lot about thing so she looks good infront of parents and the school board, but she's really nice to me because I don't question anything. If a teacher questions something, they are usually fired (we had 5 this year not come back for next year). Candy or food cannot be given out ever, I have to walk middle school students in a line everywhere, including out to buses at the end of the day--which is a pain!, the middle students are kind of babied in the K-8 setting and I find them to be very immature and very appathetic about taking responsibility. Right now, my load of students is 60, but I do see some of them more than once a day to teach health and supervise them for different things. We have a 8.5 hour day, but I don't really get to each lunch because I have students in my room serving a detention because we have to deal with all the behaviors. The students don't have to pay to be here...not like some other private schools, they just have to have percentage of a certain heritage (the school is funded by 1% pay from a local casino), there isn't much parent involvement, but some. There are a lot of opportunities for professional develeopment, and I've learned a lot here which probably helped me get the new job. Most students recieve free or reduced lunch. The students have behavior problems, but not major disrespect or physically fighting. They are mean to each other, almost like brother and sisters, becuase they've been together since K4. They aren't in the real world here.

    The new situation is a middle school public school in a large district. I haven't been at a public school for 3 years and things have changed a lot here in WI in the last 2 years. I believe I would have 130 students throughout the day as a reading interventionalist. I would probably have 10-12 per class (their normal classes are 36!). The public school pays better, although the insurance and pension cost a little money nowadays. My new classroom would be TINY. I woudn't have a Smart Board. The school is okay, but not beautiful like the one I have. Although my students now come from the same area or worse, the ones at this school are pretty rough. Apparently there's lots of fights. A sub that I know subs at my current school and that school said behavior is a problem there (they do have PBIS)...but she's a sub, so I don't know how accurate it is. When she subs at my school, it's for the little kids, not really MS kids. I've only taught middle school for the last 6 years, so I think I know a lot about teaching MS, so I'm not worried about that. At my school now, I really don't have anyone breathing down my back, but at this one, I think I might have the reading specialist aroud a lot. At this school, I would have two other teachers who teach the same subject as I do, which is nice because I don't have anyone now, so it's kind of lonely. I am also not sure about prep time and I am wondering what has all been taking away with no more collective barganing, so I'm scared to also go to a public school. I know I would do a good job as a reading intervetionalist although I would be working with students who are really LOW in reading and may be defiant and appathetic too. I think I have the passion and ability to help them. Oh yeah, at my school now, we don't have special education students, but at this public one, I would probably have a lot more because this is the school in the district that supports them more.

    Sorry this is so long, but what situation do you think would be more ideal....I feel like I haven't had a lot of opportunities to be at different places to know.....
     
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  3. MrsSachs

    MrsSachs Rookie

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    This is a really tough call. Is there room for advancement at your current job? Will you get a pay raise? Do you need a pay raise? Do you feel like your talents would be better utilized at the public school? Will you miss the calm environment, and nice setting of your current position? I wouldn't be scared about the new position, but I can see pros and cons of both.
     
  4. waterfall

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    Personally, I would go to a private school in a heartbeat IF the pay and benefits were the same, and there was an opportunity for advancement (on the salary scale) in the private school. Unfortunately, that's just not the case for any of the private schools in my area or in my hometown area- I've heard people on here say they get paid well in private schools but I've never heard of it IRL. Around here you'd get stuck in the 25-30k range for your entire career as a private school teacher- so in that situation, of course people are desperate to get into the public schools.
     

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