Principal criticizes me in front of my students

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  1. webmistress

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    What would you do?
    I am brand new, not even a month into the job. Principal walks in all of our rooms regularly, and during a staff meeting she actually complimented me.

    But I knew the tides would change. Since then, when she walks in, if she sees something she doesn't like, she lets me know in front of the class.

    At first I felt like it was constructive criticism, now I feel like I'm being chastised...and she compares my class to the other classes (with more experienced teachers).

    "This is not allowed, that's not allowed, you need this or that, it's too loud in here" etc
     
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  3. SpecSub

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    I would imagine she wants to tell you in the moment rather than having to write it down and tell you later. I would feel humiliated if it were in front of other teachers, but not so much in front of the kids.
     
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    Completely unprofessional. I think if an administrator feels you need to do something differently, it needs to be addressed behind closed doors, not in front of your students or other teachers.
     
  5. Major

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    I completely agree with Kinder.......
     
  6. MrsC

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    I think that, in front of students, parents and peers, an administrator needs to be supportive of his staff.
     
  7. RainStorm

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    It depends on what kind of comment is being made. If it is just a quick comment such as "your calendar is off" or something, I wouldn't be offended by that. I would think that would be a quick way to deal with it rather than writing it out in triplicate and sending me a copy, my personnel file a copy and the instructional specialist a copy. Without knowing if this is the norm for your school, I would just say "smile" and say "okay." and just do what is suggested. It isn't like she is reeming you out in front of your class. Now if she's doing that, that is very unprofessional.

    Long and short of it -- even if it is unprofessional, she isn't going to change because you want her to. Find a way to take it in and file it away. There are enough things to get to you in your first year -- don't add more.

    Hang in there! I promise, second years are so much better ! ! !
     
  8. FarFromHome

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    I can't imagine my principal doing something like that. That is completely disrespectful.
     
  9. JustMe

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    I agree with Mrs. C!
     
  10. idahomom

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    Just curious what the principal was referring to in the comments - was she correcting something YOU were doing or something your kids were doing? :confused:
     
  11. SpecialPreskoo

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    I hate to say it but there isn't much you can do about it. You are new. They are the principal... disrespectful and all. I hope things do get better for you. Just say in your happiest, accepting voice... "Thank you for bringing that to my attention, I didn't realized that. Now, I know!" or anything to that tune. Kill her with KINDNESS!
     
  12. bonneb

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    I think it is horrible and undermining your authority, never mind interrupting your teaching!

    I tend to like to get things out in the open. I would schedule an appointment and tell her it is hard for you to give her the attention you want to when she talks to you in front of your class, as you are in the middle of the lesson or trying to keep an eye on the kids while she is talking. Ask her if you can meet once a week or so to discuss her observations after school so you can keep the focus on the class and give her the attention you want to so you can most benefit from her suggestions.

    That's about all I can think of to say. If she doesn't get it, then just as posted, smile, say ok -thanks, then turn back to your work without skipping a beat. I think it is bad to correct an adult in front of children. I think it makes them think they can also be disrespectful.
     
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    :yeahthat:
     
  14. webmistress

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    Thanks for your comments....

    I doubt she reads the board, but today she went too far.

    Students walked in at about 8:18. She walks in and starts directing them of what to do (something I was already doing)....By 8:21 she tells me, in a not so nice voice, that I should be teaching now. She says too much time is being wasted, this is chaos, no learning will take place in here, and my students should all be at their desks doing work.

    She demanded that I go down to 2 other teachers' classes and see what their students are doing. Because my students are not doing what they should be.

    Before I left, I said SOME of my students ARE working. ((As is the case, some always do it right, and the rest of them I constantly get them moving, state the rules, and even have them walk back out if they don't come in correctly. I left the morning routine on the board for an entire week, step by step of the exact things they should do))

    As I'm walking to the other teachers' room, not ONE teacher I saw was teaching at that time. It's not even on the schedule that we teach at that time.

    The other more experienced teachers told me it's IMPOSSIBLE to be teaching that soon after the kids have just walked in.

    I went back to the room, told her what I saw, she just shook her head, continued to belittle me while my class looked scared and shocked. I have never seen that look on their faces. And no they were not scared of her, as I overheard 3 teachers say today "They don't listen to her (the principal) either." Which they don't.

    I said, "Class, please tell Ms Principal what happens in this classroom and what I do and say to you as you walk in in the morning"

    She said, "I'm not talking to them, I'm talking to you."

    She also "shushed" me at one point.

    We had a meeting that was scheduled before this happened. At the end of the meeting we conflicted again as we were talking about respect.

    She is blaming me for the discipline issues in my class (and I don't have any more than most other teachers)....she's comparing me to to other teachers, said this may not be the best environment for me (like hell it is), and she has no trouble letting teachers who can't discipline go.

    I do discipline. I stated that she is welcomed to sit in my class the entire 7 hours and not just those few moments she walks through. She said "Well if I don't see anything positive when I walk through, then that means it's not happening at all."

    I have one boy in my class, who no other 5th grade teacher wanted to keep in their class. They all demanded that he be removed because he is running them up the wall, etc....

    SO he's been through THREE 5th grade teachers this year, and the same thing happened when he was in lower grades. Yet he has made tremendous improvements for me so far.

    She doesn't know or care how far I have come with some of these most troubled boys in my class.
     
  15. bonneb

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    I am so proud of you for sticking up for yourself!

    This woman is a nut case. I really think I would go over her head with documentation and get a mediator. I would completely ignore her if she spoke to me in front of my students. Can you lock your door once the kids are inside (we are required to keep our doors locked).
     
  16. Simba

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    I agree with bonneb.

    Do you have a teacher mentor you could turn to?. Somehow,
    you need to find out how she is treating other teachers. You also need to make sure it is on the "down low." Make sure it's a group of individuals you can trust. She can't know you're speaking with other teachers regarding your situation.

    I would start there. In many states, a new teacher can basically be let go for whatever reason if it's under a certain amount of days. Do you live in a state like this? Do you belong to a union? If the situation progresses and your job continues to be threatened, you may have grounds for a lawsuit. It can be very tricky though. This is why you need to take the appropraite steps and measures.

    I would watch how you speak to her. I know she's being disrespectful, but you really need to try to keep your cool. try to document everything and the next time you schedule a meeting with her, make sure a third party is in the room. A union rep from the school would be ideal.

    Good Luck and keep us posted!!
     

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