Praxis II scores raw/scaled?

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  1. erickamichelle

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    Can you please let me know what your scaled score was and raw score was Praxis 5857? I was offered a teaching position, but have to have a passing score on this test and don't get results until another 2 weeks.
     
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    Praxis 5857 Physical and Health education.

    My Raw score was 72 out 130 questions and my official score was 158

    Hope this helps someone.
     
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    I recently took Praxis 5354. There were 120 questions on the test and the score on the screen was 162. It did show scores for the individual areas but I do not remember them. I need a 151 to pass. Is it likely that my unofficial score of 162 will change. I hope not as I have already applied for jobs that require me to have passed this test. Thanks
     
  4. TeacherGroupie

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    Unofficial Praxis scores sometimes go up by a few points, but they don't seem to go down in the absence of some kind of testing irregularity. Let me offer you unofficial congratulations.
     
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    I took mine last month and the unofficial score was 158 and received my official score last week and it was exactly the same. So most likely you passed!
     
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    How long did it take to get your official score report?
     
  7. erickamichelle

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    I received it 10 business days after my testing window ended. For multiple choice only it states 10-16 business days after testing window ends. And my test was all Multiple choice
     
  8. Jul 21, 2017

    Hi there, I took the Earth and Space Science exam this morning and got an unofficial/raw score of 188. I need to score a 156 to pass in my state. How should I be feeling right now? Thanks in advance.
     
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    Changing Gears, your 188 is certainly an unofficial score, because you saw it on the day of testing and because it wasn't reported on the official score report - but it's unlikely to be a raw score.

    A raw score, on a test that's strictly selected response, is simply the number of responses that you got right. If all the questions are multiple choice, there's one correct response per question; other question types (matching, choose all that are correct, fill-in with more than one slot to fill in) can have more than one correct response and thus count for more than one raw point. A total raw score ranges from zero (nothing right) to however many responses are in the test, minus the number of responses that are not counted because the questions to which they pertain are "pre-test" or experimental questions.

    A raw score counts every response equally. The problem is that it's darned hard to write even two questions that are exactly equivalent in difficulty, let alone several tests' worth of them - and that means that one raw score of 85 on the test version that you took may not reflect the same level of performance as a raw 85 on a different version of the same test. The solution to this is to use scaled scores: an algorithm converts each raw score of 85 to a scaled score that, for Praxis, begins at 100 and generally tops out at 200, and in the process adjusts for the relatively difficulty of the test versions. While raw scores from different versions really can't be compared one-to-one, the scaled scores can. (Statistics for the win!)

    Let me offer you unofficial congratulations.
     
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  10. Aug 14, 2017

    Greetings everyone!

    I just walked out of my Praxis II 5038 with a total score of 170. How would that translate to whether I passed or not once the official score comes out in a few weeks?
     
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    Hello,
    I just took my Praxis 5005 Science test and received a raw score of 33. I needed an overall score of 159 to pass... I think I barely made it but wanted to reach out to see if anyone knew for sure? Waiting 30 days isn't going to be fun.
     
  12. TeacherGroupie

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    I can't think of a case (well, barring testing irregularities) in which an official scaled score has been lower than an unofficial one.
     
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    You faced 50 questions, though (as page 5 of the Study Companion indicates) not all 50 get counted because they're being field-tested for inclusion in future versions of the exam. As nearly as I can tell, the unofficial raw score is based on only the questions that count. I make no guarantees, but your chances look good.
     
  14. Brethren

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    Hello everybody. I just took a 120 question Praxis 2 Physical Education Content Knowledge 5091 test. A score popped up at the end of the test saying I scored a 144. How is this possible out of 120 questions? Is this good? I've been hearing about raw scores and scaled scores. What does all this mean. Will my official score be different? If so, lower or higher?
     
  15. TeacherGroupie

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    Let me see if I can help, Brethren.

    First, be aware that pretty much every teacher test out there, and most other high-stakes tests, exists in more than one version or edition. One reason for this is to try to thwart cheating; another is to ensure that people who are retaking a test are neither at an advantage or at a disadvantage compared to those who are seeing the test for the first time. If you have a favorite sport and you found yourself thinking that 5091 didn't have enough questions about that sport compared to some others, you've encountered a third reason: that any one test can't really cover everything worth asking about a teacher licensure area's subject matter.

    The result is that any three people taking 5091 at the same time may very well be seeing different versions of 5091; because they weren't taking exactly the same version, their raw scores really can't be compared directly. And if you are ever in the position of writing quizzes or tests, you will discover a third issue quickly and painfully: how darned hard it is to write even two questions that are exactly equivalent in difficulty, let alone 120 questions times whatever number of versions of 5091 exist minus questions that are used in more than one version. The solution adopted by most test companies is to convert raw scores to scaled scores by factoring in the relative difficulty of the versions and/or questions, so that, across versions of the same test, the same score represents the same level of performance. For 5091 and most of its tests, Praxis reports its scaled scores on a scale from 100 to 200, so your scaled score is 144 on a scale from 100 to 200.
     
  16. JVJ

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    Hello, I just finished the interactive Business Education 5101 practice test and got a raw score of 79. Does anyone one know if that would be a passing score? I need a scaled sore of 154 to pass. I'm taking the the actual test next month, so any study tips are greatly appreciated.
     
  17. TeacherGroupie

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    Predicting actual results from practice tests is a a chancy exercise, partly because test questions differ among themselves in difficulty but also because differences in how the actual test approaches some content can throw off a test taker. In addition, some of Praxis's newer question types allow multiple responses - question 17 may have two drag-and-drop responses and thus count for two raw points rather than one - which means that the old one-raw-point-per-question rule doesn't apply.

    With all that said, tell me how many total points the interactive test offers - that is, 79 out of what? - and I may be able to give you a very approximate, very hedged idea.
     
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    Thanks. It was 79 out of 120.
     
  19. TeacherGroupie

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    79 out of 120 is just under 2/3 correct. I'd say you have a bit more work to do, either on your grasp of the content or perhaps on your test-taking skills.
     
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  20. Mansa

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    Hi . I took my praxis 5235 today (biology: content knowledge). If the state requirement is 152 and the score appeared on screen after test is 153, what would my official score approximately be? Total number of questions were 150. Pls explain
     
  21. TeacherGroupie

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    Judging from the Study Companion for 5235, each of the questions on the test version that you took was a standard multiple-choice question with four possible answers, of which only one is the correct answer; Praxis generally awards one raw point per correct response, and since 10% to 20% of the questions are "non-scoring" (that is, they count neither for nor against the test taker), the maximum raw score is necessarily less than 150. It follows that that 153 is most probably your unofficial scaled score, on the standard Praxis scale that runs from 100 to 200.
     
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    Hey! I had the same question of assurance when I was done with my elementary education exams. It had scores like 178, 190, 180, etc. so that is the unofficial scaled score and safe to say I passed needing a 157 on all? Thanks!
     
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    I'll assume you took the 5001 series. Results in the range you cite on those tests are unofficial scaled scores. Official scores arrive in the official score report that will be released in a couple of weeks (and, even though it will remain available online, it's wise to save from the email/message that announces it or from the website). Official scaled scores could theoretically be higher or lower than unofficial scores, but the circumstances under which that would happen are pretty rare.

    If your scores were all greater than 157, let me put it this way, Lb1101: don't pop the cork on the festive-beverage-of-preference yet, but it wouldn't be inappropriate to lay in a supply.
     
  24. MPT

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    Here's the Basic Formula (for a new test with no history):

    1) Set the Raw Score associated with random chance at a score of 100 (this is 25% for a pure 4-choice multiple choice)

    2) Set a score of 95% correct as a 200

    3) Scores scale linearly between the two.

    This is the "base" scaling. From there scores are adjusted based on test difficulty, etc.
    Assuming a test of average difficulty, and all questions are 4-choice multiple choice the formula becomes:
    (% Correct * 142.86) + 64.29 = Scaled Score

    The weird numbers come from the setting of 95% as a "perfect" score thus scaling 100-200 across 70% correctness (from 25% to 95%). 100/0.7 = 142.86, and 100-(.25/.7*100) = 64.29

    Hope this helps. Obviously note the two underlined assumptions above. It gets much more complex for drag/drop, or "choose more than one" questions, but the base assumption that random chance give ~25% correct should hold making the above formula +/- a few points in most cases (especially for the STEM tests which are more multiple choice based)
     
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    This forum was helpful to me when I was preparing for, and then freaking out about the potential results of, the Praxis Biology 5235. So, in case my experience is helpful to others-

    I took the test March 5th, and got my results on March 31st. To study, I found a bunch of free questions online, and took the ETS practice version (paid for it, it was kind of worth it, if only to see the explanations of each answer at the end). I also watched a crapload of youtube videos; there are people who have put together pretty good study playlists, and once I'd taken a couple practice tests and identified my weaknesses, I was able to look for videos explaining those areas. On the practice tests I started out with about a 65% and got up to about 75-77% on the last one I took. I studied over the course of maybe a month, but really only the first and last week of that. I had no idea how that raw percentage would translate to a final score, so I was fairly nervous about my chances.

    But! The test went great. I felt pretty good about it during, and the preliminary scaled score I got right at the end was a 183. That ended up being my final score once it officially came in. There are 150 questions, and only 120 counted. My breakdown was-

    Nature of science: 13/17
    Molecular and Cellular Bio: 18/24
    Genetic and Evolution: 17/24
    Diversity of Life: 20/24
    Ecology: 15/19
    Science, technology, social perspectives: 11/12

    All told, that's a 94/120, or a 78.3%, which somehow translates to a 183 in the end.
     
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    Hello, today I took two praxis2 exam for Ela. The passing score for NC is 167 for 5038 w/ 130 questions. 157to pass 5624 70 questions and four written responses questions. After I finished 5038 the was 150. Is this passing
     
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    That score of 150 for 5038 is almost certainly an unofficial scaled score. If passing for North Carolina is 167, then, no, I'm afraid you haven't passed. The official score report should break your raw score (= number of questions correct) down by domain or subject matter that the test covers, and that will give you some idea where you've come up short.
     
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    Hello!

    Last Thursday I took the English Language Arts 5038 praxis. There was 130 questions, some with multiple answers. When I finished a 175 popped up on the screen. There was then 3 separate numbers representing each section of the test (Literature, Language Use, Writing/Speaking/Listening): 33, 18, 30. I am assuming the 175 is what my score would be (I need a 167 to pass), and the 3 numbers are how many I got correct in each section?

    Safe to say I passed?

    Thanks!
     
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    Let me extend to you my unofficial congratulations!

    It is definitely safe to assume you passed because unofficial scaled scores rarely change once scaled and made official. The most I’ve ever seen it change was one or two points after it was scaled, and I’ve watched these forums for almost four years now and have read through much older posts, too. With that said, you exceeded the minimum by 8 points for your state and so I am willing to say with 100% confidence that you most likely passed.
     
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    Yes, 175 is your unofficial scaled score. Yes, the other three numbers represent how many you got correct in each section; you can call these "raw scores" (and, yes, your total raw score would be 81).

    While it's premature to celebrate before the official score report arrives, it wouldn't be inappropriate to lay in the celebratory comestible of choice and make arrangements for its proper heating or chilling.
     
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    Hello! So today I took World/US History 5941. I needed a 157 to pass and got an unofficial 157 at the end. Chances my score doesn’t change and I pass?

    Thank you!
     
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    I'm not fool enough to guarantee that your scaled score won't change, Raven, but experience suggests that it changing is pretty unlikely.
     
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    I really hope your score doesn’t change so you can breathe a sigh of relief and move on. I would hate getting a score right on the cusp of passing and failing because it could tip either way. Ugh! I will keep my fingers crossed for you! :)
     
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    I took my praxis 2 elem subtest science 5005 and got an unofficial score of 159 is that my actual score? Can they lower the score?
     
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    Typically, your unofficial score ends up being your scaled score once your results are made official. With that said, it is possible for it change, but it is statistically unlikely for it to do so.
     
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    Unofficial scaled scores generally don't change in either direction unless (a) the test company identifies what are delicately called "testing irregularities", in which case the test taker will almost certainly be notified individually, or (b) the test includes some constructed-response questions that are scored by at least one human. Judging from the online Study Companion, 5005 consists mostly or exclusively of multiple choice questions with a possible scattering of numeric-answer questions: all of those can be machine-scored.

    If 159 is passing in your state, it's still probably slightly premature to celebrate before the official score report arrives - but you'd be entitled to lay in some celebratory beverage and be thinking about festive venues.
     
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    TeacherGroupie, I've read the questions and responses in this thread and everyone's been very helpful. I recently decided to teach after contacting the AR Department of ED seeking information for the nontraditional teacher licensure program. I determined since I'm a pastor with a Master of Divinity and several years of experience that teaching Speech and Communication would be best. All I need to take and pass for intial approval is 5221 and make a score of 141. My undergraduate degree (1996) was in Sociology and not Communications.

    Have said that, I purchased the ETS practice test tonight for 5221 and immediately took it. I made a 70/120 and I'm figuring that's a little shy of your 2/3 rule? How does that score compute for a 141 though? I can tell you're cautious on these practice tests, but currently it's all I have to go by. I have until May 15th to pass the 5221. I'm seeking direction for study guides and materials preparing me for the real deal. Also, why is the 5221 minimum score of 141 lower than the other Praxis 2 tests? No Arkansas jokes. The 140's are actually across the country. Very nice forum. Thank you.
     
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    Welcome to A to Z, Pioneer10. Be advised that I'm treading here into the realm of speculation, and that having that ground under my feet makes me deeply nervous. With me, nervousness translates into the irrepressible urge to explain my thinking at enough length to draw gibes from some observers: brace yourself.

    5221 is a well-seasoned test, by Praxis standards: as recently as 2010, it was still strictly paper-based (it was then 0221). Praxis is and has always been emphatic that it is states, not Praxis, that choose passing scaled scores, and I infer from this that older Praxis scaled scores reflect a state's perceived difficulty in finding prospective teachers who can pass in subject X with higher scores. (Newer Praxis tests, especially those numbered in five digits rather than four, exhibit a much more restricted range of passing scaled scores and are likelier to show the same score per state across the board, from which I infer that, with them, Praxis might be following the Pearson model of choosing a scaled score to dub "passing" for most or all of a state's tests, then figuring out what raw score per test equates to that achievement. I know some things about how Pearson does this with its California tests, because California's Commission on Teacher Credentialing is unusually upfront about the process.) Having one scaled score across the board per state has the advantage of reducing complaints from test takers - if there aren't Arkansans taking 5086, Social Studies: Content and Interpretation, who feel hard done by that they have to score 153 to pass rather than 5021's 141, it would be surprising - but this does suggest that the older Praxis scores reflect raw scores relatively closely, and if I'm right about all this, that's very much to your advantage.

    With all that said, let me squelch my way to firmer ground.

    You have an M.Div. and you know how to use sources. The quality and usefulness of test preparation guides varies with the test taker but nearly always also reflects the numbers of test takers taking the test and thus driving sales and through them the publisher's incentive to make the book more accurate and useful. My sincere advice to you would be to make your own study guide. Start with the list of topics in the Praxis Study Companion as a framework and augment it with EVERY word or phrase in every practice test you've taken that you didn't know cold, then go rummaging on the internet. Wikipedia is your friend in this. Let me also recommend looking up the websites for the national, state, and regional associations of speech teachers, which can host remarkably useful resources. If you weren't in speech and debate in high school, let me urge you to look up information on speech and debate competitions, because those loom very large in the life of a speech teacher (and, yes, you will need to know all the types of debate and all the types of speech and how they're scored competitively). And Arkansas should have a set of content standards or competencies (or whatever they're called locally) free for the downloading from the state department of education website: download yours, since you'll be responsible for it anyway as a teacher, and have a look to see what help it offers. (If you're lucky, in it or in a supporting doc, there will be a glossary of useful terms.
     
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    Hi everyone. I just took my NJ middle school science (5440) Praxis (125 selected responses). At the end of the test it gave me a score of 190. If I need a 150 to pass do you think I’m safe? How much will the scaled score effect me? Thanks!
     

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