Praxis II: English Language Arts: Content KnowledgeE 5038

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  1. TeacherGroupie

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    161 almost certainly isn't a raw score for 5038, ECE1234: it looks like an unofficial scaled score.
     
  2. ECE1234

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    SOME OF MY QUESTIONS REQUIRED MORE THAN JUST AN (ABCD) ANSWER. SOME QUESTIONS I HAD TO CHOOSE MULTIPLE ANSWERS. ARE THESE QUESTIONS WORTH MORE THAN 1 RAW POINT?
     
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    SOME OF MY QUESTIONS ON PRAXIS 5038 REQUIRED MORE THAN JUST AN (ABCD) ANSWER. SOME QUESTIONS I HAD TO CHOOSE MULTIPLE ANSWERS. ARE THESE QUESTIONS WORTH MORE THAN 1 RAW POINT?
     
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    Yes, multiple answers per question means more than one raw point from that question. So the score you saw is 161. If that's a raw score, it would mean that at least 31 of your points (161-130) came from multiple-answer questions. If every multiple-answer question has two right answers, that means that at least 32 of the total 131 questions are two-answer questions; if every multiple-answer question has four good answers, that means at least 10 questions are multiple-answer questions. The chances are that there's a mix, but I don't know what the mix is. In addition, this doesn't correct for non-scoring or "pre-test" questions.

    But Praxis tends to report raw scores broken down by domain or subarea tested (in the case of 5038, the three domains are Reading, Language Use & Vocabulary, and Writing & Speaking), and you haven't indicated that your score was broken down that way, so I still suspect your 161 is a scaled score.
     
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    Thank you. Yes, my scores were broken down (27, 19, 27) but still had the 161 stated as raw score.
     
  6. TeacherGroupie

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    Wait: 27+19+27 doesn't add up to 161, nor come anywhere close. If 161 isn't your scaled score, I will be very surprised.
     
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    What was your scaled score?
     
  8. Clay Morgan

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    I scored 178. Needed 167.
     
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    WOW! I just scored a 65-Raw on the 5038 and I need a 147 in Alabama, I pray that I make close to a 178! That's awesome!
     
  10. georgeorwell

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    I took the Praxis on April 6... still haven't gotten my scores. Anyone else???
     
  11. 2good

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    It's still a little early. The window for this test closed on 04/16/16 and it takes three weeks after that date. The scores should be up on 05/06/16 after 5 pm.
     
  12. Clay Morgan

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    I remember it took right at a month to get my English praxis score. I took History on April 4 and still waiting. I anticipate maybe another week's wait on that one.
     
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    I am interested to know if your 161 score was an unofficial score that will show up as your official score.
     
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    At the end of my English 5038 test, a score popped up. I did not know that the computer scored the test, so I took a look at the first number and exited the test. I keep hearing that because the 5038 test is all multiple choice, the score on the screen is unofficial. If that is true, I am soooo not happy. I saw a 165. In my state, we must score a 167 to pass. Really!!!????? 2 points!!!! I seriously hope that was not the "unofficial/official" score.
     
  15. Bluest Eye

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    probably is unofficial... :(
     
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    I studied just about every author relevant to teaching English in Middle/High/College and STILL the test mentioned 2-3 authors I have never heard of. UGH!!! I honestly do not get how knowing a bunch of author's measures my ability to teach students how to read and write.
     
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    I can hazard an answer to that question, if you like.
     
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    Sure! :)
     
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    First, if you believe that Praxis 5038 doesn't test teaching ability, you're right. It's a test of subject matter, and that's how it is packaged. Such tests exist because teachers who lack a firm grasp on the content that they're teaching are less effective than they could be.

    As for the "bunch of authors", the task of English/language arts instruction beginning no later than middle school is to equip students to read, comprehend, learn from, appreciate, and produce text in a range of genres and styles, and of course there's also the matter of helping a student develop and hone his or her own voice. The teacher who is broadly and deeply versed in a wide variety of genres and styles, I submit, is better able to guide student readers and to value the work of student writers than is the teacher with a narrower grasp.
     
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    Hi did you ever find out if that was your scaled score?? I just took my test today.
     
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    Took English 6-12 (5038) today, received the following scores at the end:

    182 (unofficial score?)

    Raw scores of:

    Reading: 33
    Language Use and Vocabulary: 23
    Writing, Speaking, and Listening: 34

    The passing score for this exam here in Hawaii is 167 - would it be safe to assume that I probably passed?

    Side note: I wasn't an English major (but did major in education), and I'm actually doing an alternative certification route since I didn't "go to school" to become a teacher, so if anyone is prepping for this test and would like study tips, I'm def willing to share :)
     
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    33+23+34 adds up to 90. Yes, 182 is your unofficial scaled score. While I wouldn't recommend uncorking the celebratory beverage of choice before receiving the official score report, you're within your rights to lay in a stock.
     
  23. LadyD2016*

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    Hi TeachingWithAloha...
    I'm preparing to take Praxis 5038 in three weeks...any suggestions for study material? ?
     
  24. TeachingWithAloha

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    Hi there! Here was my study process.
    1. Looked at the practice questions available at https://www.ets.org/s/praxis/pdf/5038.pdf. PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE QUESTIONS ON THIS.
    2. Downloaded both forms of the practice test available at http://store.ets.org/store/ets/en_US/pd/ThemeID.12805600/productID.5086641200.
    3. Took both exams, marking the questions I got wrong to see what I needed to work on.
    4. Checked out the following books from the library:
    From there, I just focused on the questions/types that were applicable to the questions I was missing on the practice tests, then retook one version of the practice tests. I repeated this process until I got down to only missing like 10 questions each go round.

    From there, I made flash cards of the concepts/terms that I kept missing and studied them each chance I got. Once I was able to run through the cards without missing any (had family quiz me), I took the practice test again-only missed two this time, and that was because I read the questions too fast.

    Overall, the REAL test wasn't as difficult as I expected. I was able to pull my score report today, and it was the same as the unofficial score I received at the end of the test - 182.
     
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    Hello everyone,

    So, I have a journalism degree and I am working through my certification through college classes and I know eventually I will have to take the Praxis II 5038.

    Quite frankly, I guess I just feel a little bit behind? I did pretty well with English back in High School and in college as well. I did do well in writing as well, as the degree probably says.

    I'm just curious to see if anyone else has taken a path close to this and if anyone could offer any advice. I understand about the different literary terms and all of that because I have the practice test from ETS. What I was curious about is if anyone had any suggestions about which books or readings that it would be a good idea to re-read or to read. My path to teaching has been hectic and its not done yet but I am hoping I can find some good strategies on how to study for and pass the 5038 hopefully the first time.

    I realized I wanted to be a teacher a little too late into my college career and I am sort of paying the price for it now because I am definitely behind on the content knowledge.

    Any help would be appreciated!
     
  26. TeachingWithAloha

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    My path was somewhat similar in that I majored in Computer Science as an undergrad and Education disciplines in grad school; plenty of writing, but not necessarily an intense concentration in English as a specific content area. I previously took a classroom generalist (PK-6) exam in Texas, so that gave me some insight as to exactly what to expect on these sort of exams, but in terms of studying for the 5038 exam, check out my post above with my study plan.

    The exam definitely covers lots of literature, and while it's not possible to know every single book/author/plot out there, I will say this: pay STRONG attention to the literature covered in the practice exam. It's probably a good idea to become familiar with the time periods each piece of literature belongs to.

    Honestly, yes, I felt at a bit of a disadvantage jumping out there and attempting to become a certified teacher without having taken a teacher prep option in college, but it's not as difficult as long as you're committed for the long haul. I started my alt cert program a short time ago, received my Intent to Hire form, had an interview, and received a tentative offer to teach at a new charter school that is opening its doors for the 1st time this coming fall. So, stay the course, know that you're not alone, and keep us posted :)
     
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    How did you prep for the assessment? When confused on an answer, how did you decide your choice?
     
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    DEFINITELY take some time reviewing the questions/types of questions on the practice test that's available on the ETS website. I downloaded both version of the practice test that was available for purchase via the ETS store, tested myself, and went back over every question I missed. From there, I made notes/flash cards regarding the items I missed. Next, I studied the most recent copies of the GED, ACT, and PRAXIS study manuals (check your local library/bookstore).

    I drilled myself over the items that weren't sticking until they DID stick, and re-took the practice tests until I yielded a nearly perfect score.

    I skipped all items that I wasn't able to quickly answer and came back (in the interest of preserving time). Upon return, I dissected the questions based on prior knowledge/other stuff I'd encountered on the exam. From there, I just picked the answer that looked the LEAST likely to be wrong. All in all, I can say I made a blind guess on roughly five questions; all others, I was able to comfortably make an educated guess.
     
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    Thank you.
     

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