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  1. Hopeful-Teacher

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    I will soon be taking the Praxis test. I have heard horrible stories about this test and how hard the Math portion is. I am horrible in Math. Can anyone offer any suggestions or help about how to go about studying for this test? I will be starting an Algebra course next week, so I am hoping that will help.
    Thanks for your help.
    Elizabeth
     
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    Hopeful-Teacher,

    I too will be taking the Praxis 1 exam in March. I have heard, from my future cooperating teacher that this test is a lot of common sense. Like you, however, I am looking for a great test-prep website. I do not want to take the common sense thing for granted. What is common sense to one person, may not be to another.

    I will check back often to see if anyone has posted a website to your question!

    Wishing you great success, Hopeful-Teacher!!
     
  4. TeacherGroupie

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    I don't know that I'd say it's common sense, exactly (has anyone else noticed that common sense is anything but common...?). It's true, however, that tests like these are looking for skills that are typically taught well before high school.

    For reading comprehension, I like LearningExpress's books, which are widely available, especially Reading Comprehension Success in 20 Minutes a Day. Your local library might well have it.

    For math, either Dr. Math on Math Forum (http://mathforum.org) or Purplemath (http://www.purplemath.com) are great choices. Check the Tests at a Glance document to get a feel for just what you really do need to know: it's not uncommon for test-prep books to overstate the math required.

    For essay... well, ya gotta write. That's about all there is to it.
     
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    Let me add that attitude is a big ingredient in test-taking success. Just because people are telling horror stories about a test doesn't mean that those stories have to be true for you. Try imagining that your best friend is going to take some other test and is miserable because it's going to be horrible and she's horrible at this and that, etc., etc. Would you let her keep talking trash like that? I bet you wouldn't: I bet your teacherly instincts would rise up and you'd set about helping her to find ways that she could succeed.

    Well, my dear, when it comes to Praxis I...

    ... you're your best friend.
     
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    TeacherGroupie,

    You have some wonderful advise! Thank you!! I truly try to disregard the horror stories! They are counterproductive!!

    Blessings, Laura
     
  7. Mija

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    I just took the Praxis I test in December in Iowa. I didn't study for it and I am 54 yrs. old. I did just fine on the 4 1/2 hour test. Don't worry, you will do just fine.
     
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    I didn't find the math section of the Praxis I that difficult and I dislike math. Use common sense when answering some of the questions and study some basic algebra problems and you will do fine.
     
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    Thank you, Mija!!

    Blessings, Laura
     
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    Use the answers to your advantage. Plug them in the problem when you can. See if this helps.
     
  11. Hopeful-Teacher

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    Thank you all for all of your replies. I know that I would encourage my friend to do their best. I guess that I just need to gain more confidence in me! :)
    I am taking an Algebra class, so hopefully this will help me with my Math on the test!
    Thanks again,
    Elizabeth
     
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    Good luck !
    If I could pass them, anyone can! Trust me I HATE tests!!!
     
  13. TeacherGroupie

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    Now, now, deedee: nobody ever passed a teacher test purely by luck, with no knowledge involved.
     
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    Your right! :rolleyes:
    I did study , especially for the math portion! ( my weakness)
     
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    Much better.
     
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    I have a question also. I'll be taking the PPST April 28. I've done several pretests from study guides. I'm improving as I go along but still have no idea how well or poorly I am doing. Does anyone know the conversion scale for raw score to final score or where I can find it?
     
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    There isn't a simple answer to that. The reason for this is that it's darned near impossible to write a bunch of test questions that are exactly equivalent in difficulty, so the algorithm that converts raw scores to scaled scores has a series of fudge factors built into it.

    (The word algorithm is math-ese for 'way to solve a problem': you could say that adding 2 + 3 by counting on your fingers is a kind of algorithm.)

    It is possible to get a ROUGH idea of how you're doing. It takes some math, though:

    Find the scoring scale for the test you're taking. Praxis exams tend to be scored on a scale from 100 to 200. 200-100 = 100, so there are 100 scaled points available. If a passing score is, say, 172, 172 - 100 = 72: the test passer needs 72 of the available 100 scaled points, or 72%. Multiply that by the number of questions on the test, and you get a rough approximation of how many you need to get correct to pass.
     
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    Thanks. This is very helpful. I tried this and it looks like I am making passing scores but not by much. I prefer a bigger buffer zone. I'll continue hitting the math sites I saw in another post.
     
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    Make sure the prep books are testing what Praxis I says it's testing: it's not uncommon that prep books misrepresent the math, for example.
     
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    I purchased a study guide and read read read over and over.. Math was my weakness, so I had a friend work with me on it. I gave another teacher friend look over sample essays, and give me suggestions on how to improve. I also found that the study guides make it look harder than it actually is (just my opinion, of course! :) ) Don't ever underestimate the power of a good night's sleep and healthy breakfast!
     
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    And a good attitude.
     
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    My experience with the Praxis I wasn't bad at all. I passed it the first time I took it. I took the computerized version. (If you get the choice of paper version or computer version..i would suggest computer b/c it's a lot easier to keep track of your time and instant Pass/Fail feedback on the Reading and Math parts.)

    But yes, the test is basically a more expensive version of a SAT...that's the best way I've found to describe it. You should know the basics of English and Math. And just as long as your composite score (math + reading + writing) is at or above the required passing score.. somewhere between 530-535 if i'm not mistaken, you are good to go.

    So, practice reading comprehension, refresh your memory on math, and practice your composition and you should be fine.

    -Mr.MiddleSchool
     
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    You'll do fine.....

    Hi

    I just took the praxis last week. I was scared to take it for months, but the weird thing was that once I registered I wasnt that nervous. I took the computer based test and scored a 178 on the Reading, however I was 6 points short from passing the math section for Connecticut. Even though I didnt pass the math, I don't feel that the questions were super hard. If I had focused on studying more of the math, I know I would have passed it. From what I've heard alot of people either get alot of logic problems or alot of algebra on the math portion of the test. I'm going to retake it in April. Once you've taken it you'll know what to expect. Don't worry, you'll do fine. Just stay positive.
     
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    I've been boning up on my algebra. I had forgotten quite a lot. But logic? Okay I went to the library over the weekend to check out some logic books to reaquaint myself. All I found were probability books. Is probability the same as logic?
     
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    Is Probability the same as logic?

    Hi,

    I'm not sure about that, maybe someone else on here might know.
    The test I got had a lot of charts. Pie graphs etc. on it.
    I also had some algebra but it didnt make up even 1/2 of my test.
    Heres an example of a similar question that I got on my test:

    Percent of Freshmen, Sophmores, Juniors, and Seniors at a college:

    Freshmen 30%
    Sophomore 26%
    Juniors 25%
    Seniors 19%

    (These figures are actually divided in a pie chart)

    There are a total of 12,000 students. How many more freshmen are there than seniors?

    A. 1,320
    B. 2,280
    C. 3,000
    D. 3,120
    E. 3,600

    (taken from Barrons how to prepare for the Praxis book)

    If I hear anything else about the math portion of the exam I'll let you know. Remember, the tests vary so you might end up with a test with alot of algebra. I have to start studying again myself, so I understand how you feel.
     
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    Probability is, for example, the likelihood of grabbing a green M&M out of a bag that has other colors of M&Ms in it. You calculate it by dividing the number of green M&Ms there are by the number of M&Ms in the bag.

    Logic problems of the sort that show up on Praxis I generally involve five people with five different houses, cars, and pets, and you have to reason out who has which. LearningExpress has a couple of books that can be helpful - I don't remember the exact titles, but "reasoning" in the title is A Good Thing, and the Web site is http://www.LearnX.com.
     
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    I'm not familiar with the exam, but here are some examples of Reasoning puzzles; http://www.edhelper.com/logic_puzzles.htm

    TG- would you check out the level of difficulty??

    I figured they might give you something to start with while you wait for materials you order.
     
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    Alice, that's a great link! I'll need to check it against the Praxis I Web site, but that won't happen till later.
     
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    I love edhelper!!! I did some freelance work for them last year, and the owner of the site is a great guy! He's so interested in providing quality materials for teachers!

    Anyway, on the link I gave you, scroll down to the "3 dimensional" puzzles. There are a bunch there, and I imagine they're close to what you want.
     
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    Thanks. I'll check all this stuff out. I didn't think logic was probability but it has been so long. The librarian handing me probability books really confused me.
     
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    praxis

    thanks for all of your responses. I took the Praxis test and passed everything except Math. I missed it by only 4 points. I was upset but hopefully I will pass it next time.
    Elizabeth
     
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    That's pretty close, Hopeful-Teacher. Try going to your local big bookstore and rooting through the education section; look for skill review books for kids that cover the material that's giving you grief.
     
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    Saving this!
     
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    I have a question about the alternate route. If anyone can help please feel free. I have a bachelors degree in interior design and thinking of becoming a elementary teacher. Is there a way for me to become a k-3 teacher through the alternate path or would I have to go back to traditional college and take 2 more years?
     
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    That is, strictly speaking, not a test-taking question per se...

    What there is depends on where you are - different states have different routes.
     

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